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Wow - A Field of Dreams!
Beautiful!You did a bang up job with the pruning - I can hardly tell even if I look closely. They still look great from here! Bet you would've been a great jouster in the Jolly Old times
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Wow - A Field of Dreams!
Beautiful!You did a bang up job with the pruning - I can hardly tell even if I look closely. They still look great from here! Bet you would've been a great jouster in the Jolly Old times
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First time bein in yer thread and am glad I "found" it . 1 comment , I think it's unusual fer yer tri or quad plants to carry tha trait on to clones , as my experience is that they would revert to normal growin plants .
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SS - I've had two tri plants now that tri'd as clones but the original seed plants were normal. Another that was tri from germination (3 cotelydon leaves & all).
GMT - I have an interesting side note. The plant that was tri from birth is a hermie, but an interesting variety. The mother plant was never flowered, so I don't know what might have happened if I flowered her (she had female preflowers), but some clones grow male and others grow female. I've completed flowering on one completely female clone without a single seed or banana, but I've had two clones go male. Out of curiosity, I have three more clones rooting to see what happens to them.
Do you think it would be worthwhile to collect pollen from one of the males and see if it's viable? Since I've had 3 out of 3 go tri at some point, I'm just wondering what might happen.
By the way, Lifesaver not only has Blueberry in it, it has Jacks Cleaner in it. JC is also known for having a lot of tri's from what I've read. If the experiment with Nutcruncher doesn't work, you might pick up some of Subcool's "Lemon Freeze" which is Jack's Cleaner BX x (Jacks Cleaner x Blueberry) and see what happens.
GMT - I have an interesting side note. The plant that was tri from birth is a hermie, but an interesting variety. The mother plant was never flowered, so I don't know what might have happened if I flowered her (she had female preflowers), but some clones grow male and others grow female. I've completed flowering on one completely female clone without a single seed or banana, but I've had two clones go male. Out of curiosity, I have three more clones rooting to see what happens to them.
Do you think it would be worthwhile to collect pollen from one of the males and see if it's viable? Since I've had 3 out of 3 go tri at some point, I'm just wondering what might happen.
By the way, Lifesaver not only has Blueberry in it, it has Jacks Cleaner in it. JC is also known for having a lot of tri's from what I've read. If the experiment with Nutcruncher doesn't work, you might pick up some of Subcool's "Lemon Freeze" which is Jack's Cleaner BX x (Jacks Cleaner x Blueberry) and see what happens.
Hi Ambre, hmmmm, you took clones from one plant, some were all female and some were male and some hermie. Sounds like you cloned from a hermie to be honest. You could certainly collect pollen from one of the tri males if it releases any(good luck). You could even use it to pollinate one of the tri clones from the same plant. But that would be selfing the plant. Theoretically, they should contain a high number of plants showing the same trait as you know, but how healthy would that breeding line then be. If you had another plant that showed tri traits, it would probably be far healthier to cross with that. But would still run the risk of containing a higher number of hermies. You'd have to go searching through a few seeds to find healthy breeding stock then.
The trouble is in looking for tri's in other people's stock, they tend to occur one in a hundred or so (and that's a very generous estimate, for natural tri's). I'm actually getting 1 in 12 natural tris from one of my lines and quite a few in a few other lines. I feel that a constant female tri geneology with males that are either born of tri's or contain genes that I feel will enhance the offspring in some way is the best way for me to get to a point where I have a couple of lines breeding true tris consistantly.
The Nutcruncher experiment is so that I can compare which results in the better cross, that line or the black dom line when crossed to tri lines. Sets of the offspring will then be grown side by side (once natural tri seeds have been found) to see which are the better plants/smoke. And to see how they breed.
Wont be long for that grow now, the seeds are growing, I can see them.
The trouble is in looking for tri's in other people's stock, they tend to occur one in a hundred or so (and that's a very generous estimate, for natural tri's). I'm actually getting 1 in 12 natural tris from one of my lines and quite a few in a few other lines. I feel that a constant female tri geneology with males that are either born of tri's or contain genes that I feel will enhance the offspring in some way is the best way for me to get to a point where I have a couple of lines breeding true tris consistantly.
The Nutcruncher experiment is so that I can compare which results in the better cross, that line or the black dom line when crossed to tri lines. Sets of the offspring will then be grown side by side (once natural tri seeds have been found) to see which are the better plants/smoke. And to see how they breed.
Wont be long for that grow now, the seeds are growing, I can see them.
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Amazing tri-work...
I find this plants so interesting.. the mutants too... I know I will make an experiment on mutating plants on purpuse soon... hardly wait
Carry on the amazing work GMT!
Peace and love,
Agnes
I find this plants so interesting.. the mutants too... I know I will make an experiment on mutating plants on purpuse soon... hardly wait
Carry on the amazing work GMT!
Peace and love,
Agnes
The important thing here though is that they weren't manipulated in anyway to do this, there are no chemicals involved, just selective breeding. I have no idea how you would deliberately cause them to mutate, you'd have to breed with a tri you had and start searching the seeds. If that's the plan, I wish you luck, I'm now about 2-3 years into tris, and still no where near where I want to be, well ok I am near, but still not there yet. The seeds from the tri obo and tri bruised berry are nearly ready now, I've been taking a few branches off to throw away as they are very heavily seeded, and tightly planted, so I thought I'd reduce the workload for them a bit.
Now flowering are the cut of the tri obo, (may take another cut soon to backcross seeds with) and a normal (not tri) bruised berry, both for smoke, as I am now dry with seeds about to harvest not bud. The things I do.
New seeds are soaking, bruised berry, looking for another tri or 2, then once the new seeds are harvested (another week from looks of things) and left to dry for about 10 days, (seems seeds younger than this tend not to pop too easily) they will also be put into the wet paper towels to search for more tri's, hopefully somewhere along the line, I'll find another male, and hopefully the next one will also have pollen. Just making a note of the date for future reference.
Now flowering are the cut of the tri obo, (may take another cut soon to backcross seeds with) and a normal (not tri) bruised berry, both for smoke, as I am now dry with seeds about to harvest not bud. The things I do.
New seeds are soaking, bruised berry, looking for another tri or 2, then once the new seeds are harvested (another week from looks of things) and left to dry for about 10 days, (seems seeds younger than this tend not to pop too easily) they will also be put into the wet paper towels to search for more tri's, hopefully somewhere along the line, I'll find another male, and hopefully the next one will also have pollen. Just making a note of the date for future reference.
2 trifoliar Bruised berrys have been born and are saying hello to the world today.
The 1st Bruised Nuts seeds have just gone into the soil. It may be too early for these seeds the germ yet, but I couldn't wait to find out any longer. Once they are sprouted, any non tris will die and we'll continue with that for a while until I find a tri or 2 in them.
The 1st Bruised Nuts seeds have just gone into the soil. It may be too early for these seeds the germ yet, but I couldn't wait to find out any longer. Once they are sprouted, any non tris will die and we'll continue with that for a while until I find a tri or 2 in them.
So this is Evolution II: Attack of The Mites...I hate reading about mites...
now I'm all itchy..hehe...just wanted to stop by and say high..
gotta hit the sack..it is way too late..gotta be up for work in 3 hrs..and I'm itchy..
now I'm all itchy..hehe...just wanted to stop by and say high..
gotta hit the sack..it is way too late..gotta be up for work in 3 hrs..and I'm itchy..
Lmao Pack,
I should do a propper Evo II thread, this has turned into more of a diary for me to log dates of events so I know how long is left on stuff. Regular updates and photo journals can get tiresome to keep up though, so I just upload pics when they show something I want to remember about. It started as a photo shoot, turned into an essay, and then became the back of an envelope. The plants that the mites atttacked are now out and dried (tv method), the plants that take their spot have been infected but the cold is keeping them at bay for the mo. The next gen are clear for now, we'll see.
I should do a propper Evo II thread, this has turned into more of a diary for me to log dates of events so I know how long is left on stuff. Regular updates and photo journals can get tiresome to keep up though, so I just upload pics when they show something I want to remember about. It started as a photo shoot, turned into an essay, and then became the back of an envelope. The plants that the mites atttacked are now out and dried (tv method), the plants that take their spot have been infected but the cold is keeping them at bay for the mo. The next gen are clear for now, we'll see.
2 of the latest 3 tris, one was actually more of a mutant than a true tri, so that one didn't make the cut.
They are 2 plants not the same one twice, more pics as they develop or as more tris show. These are another 2 bruisedberries (H). Still waiting on the bruisednuts seeds. And the others.
They are 2 plants not the same one twice, more pics as they develop or as more tris show. These are another 2 bruisedberries (H). Still waiting on the bruisednuts seeds. And the others.
They all have that somewhere, its from the blueberry genes in them. Your orangeberrys will prob start that in flower too. I've never heard a propper name for it though. I'll take a couple of shots of it at it's most prominent later. The above shot shows the bruised berry in flower, BL, and the rest are OBOs. Looking for the really orange tasting pheno I had first run. Unfortunately that pheno is not universal, so I've got a tri OBO and 2 bi OBOs going. The tri was bred from last round, and cuts taken from the other 2. So if its in here, I'll keep it safe, otherwise the cuts will get thrown, and other lines will be developed further.
thanks, GMT. your plants look real nice!
i was looking for a pic also...i don't know if i have one...
Green goddess leaves (and buds)...if you click the pic it will enlarge(duh)..what i was curious about was the way that the leaves curve right or left.
your pic shows it better than mine
oh yeah, i keep forgetting to comment on how early i see you topping your plants...very interesting, almost as young as seedlings!
i would like to give that a try on my next grow...you sure have the experience that i lack.
i was looking for a pic also...i don't know if i have one...
Green goddess leaves (and buds)...if you click the pic it will enlarge(duh)..what i was curious about was the way that the leaves curve right or left.
your pic shows it better than mine
oh yeah, i keep forgetting to comment on how early i see you topping your plants...very interesting, almost as young as seedlings!
i would like to give that a try on my next grow...you sure have the experience that i lack.
Hi Sleepy, yeah I'm big on topping to get the most from a plant, although at the moment that's not the point to the grows. If topping, I do like to start early. Not this early
The second pic below is a nice point to remove the first bud
Then let new buds grow
Once there is a nice double set of leaves, top both new buds again
Of course this can be repeated as many times as you want
Some people prefer LST, but I think the weaker support stucture that that provides, restricts the final hual, even though it would probably still be bigger than normal single cola harvests (per plant).
I like the way that plants topped heavily grow as you can see in this pic.
Although the last pic of a plant with 2 tops is this one
Which if you look, hasn't been topped. There are 2 outside leaves, one on each new stem and in the same direction as they would be normally. If this plant was topped, there would be 4 new leaves. Check out the pics of topped seedlings earlier. This plant topped itself, or more acurately, slpit its own stem. Part of the mutation of the tri gene, one half was then manually topped, and then cut for a cutting. The other half became the Bi foliar OBO in the tub posted earlier sitting next to the cut of the Tri OBO that was used in the nutcruncher cross when also making the Bruised Nuts seeds, RMs nutchruncher X my Bruised berry shown above. Those seeds are now harvested but not yet grown.
The second pic below is a nice point to remove the first bud
Then let new buds grow
Once there is a nice double set of leaves, top both new buds again
Of course this can be repeated as many times as you want
Some people prefer LST, but I think the weaker support stucture that that provides, restricts the final hual, even though it would probably still be bigger than normal single cola harvests (per plant).
I like the way that plants topped heavily grow as you can see in this pic.
Although the last pic of a plant with 2 tops is this one
Which if you look, hasn't been topped. There are 2 outside leaves, one on each new stem and in the same direction as they would be normally. If this plant was topped, there would be 4 new leaves. Check out the pics of topped seedlings earlier. This plant topped itself, or more acurately, slpit its own stem. Part of the mutation of the tri gene, one half was then manually topped, and then cut for a cutting. The other half became the Bi foliar OBO in the tub posted earlier sitting next to the cut of the Tri OBO that was used in the nutcruncher cross when also making the Bruised Nuts seeds, RMs nutchruncher X my Bruised berry shown above. Those seeds are now harvested but not yet grown.
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