New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[Sunfire]

Do you think jarring the flowers and one of those hygrometers they talk about in the "perfect cure" thread along with a sponge or apple or wet q-tip might be a good way to go vs squirt bottle. It seems that would get the moisture more evenly dispersed through the flower...which seems like a good thing. I understand having a jar sit at to high of moisture for too long will just grow mold but knowing that "x" strain performs best at "x" moisture might be a.little more precise then "1/2 dry" or "x" amount of squirts from a bottle

Idk how to do multiple qoutes in one post so forgive my whorish posting...

Lmao yeah dude that'd be way better. I'd like to score a few humidors to use for this same reason. I only gave the "x" amount of squirts info cause sadly that's all I had to give.

yeah I've talked with many people how cool it's be to start making a chart to graft all the data and start eeliminating lot of the mysteries. Analytical for said chart will be expensive though.

The results of "X" strain and "x" moisture will also be subjected to "T" temp and "P" pressure and "T" time as well as mention of the type of material; sift of different grades, wash of different grades, flowers, trim, indoor, outdoor, latitude and so on. When one starts doing the math, there's an insanely large amount of combinations to be had from these factors.

grey fox - lmao omg dude your dedicated to count trich heads. Don't burn yourself out with the details just watch your weights in and out at different temps and rh%. Notice flavor too, those are good starting points if you are unaware of the strain.

 

[slowandeasy]

Idk if that was more than a month ago. We have been talking ablut these things since the beginning when everyone had t shirt presses and was doing 250-350F for very short times and it was the 300 neighborhood for 5-7 seconds that everyone was saying was the best.

I realize this thread is 120 pages now and at this point I wouldn't ask anyone to go back to the beginning and read it all to catch up to current conversation. However that silly to claim we had never previously talked about time and temps.

"Glad to see those people have changed...you know who you are." Wow dude really? I can't help but feel you mean to imply myself, only option besides HMK. I hope you know I never even opened your pm you sent me. You straight tried calling me out so I asked for you to create a valid and sound arguement providing organized evidence and logical deduction. To which you gave no reply and tried to send me a pm and then went silent. Now you come back and say this?

Seriously man, just drop this angst you have for us. This is a public forum, if you don't like us, then don't antagonize us further with comments like this. I was trying to civil and wasn't going to respond to any of your exchanges with HMK until I saw this.

And one should never state absolutes... "If you try to press too much at once, you will always need a second press." Negative ghost rider, I've done many 100-130 gram presses. Single press cause I'm fucken lazy. If done right, a second press will yield no more unless the temp is bumped up atleast 40 degrees and still its not worth it. I can scale up and do 1#, not in the same concept as scaling that straight concentrates did however. I prefer that gram load density and size though for many reasons and that is my personal desire. "Too much" is a relative statement. If one wanted to, ten # could be pressed at once if they had the desire. Straight will probably have a close to 5 # press in a few months, atleast that's what it looks like it could do about. If you really want to get more scientific about it, pay attention to your load rates in grams per square inch because that is a figure that is NOT relative.

And ps...HMK is spicy, deal with it, don't lean on him, or myself for that matter, if you don't want us to push back.

I think both of you guys are Bipolar. Sometimes you are informative and helpful..other times you are bat shit crazy!

 

[Ringodoggie]

And ps...HMK is spicy

ROTFLMAO I like that. It has been my experience that people use the word... asshole. LMAO From now on when some one calls me that, I'm going to tell them, I"m not an asshole. I'm just........ spicy". LMAO Personally, I like..... spicy. The world would be tasteless without it.


As for the RH experiments, that's pretty easy. My buds are in jars with Boveda packs and a hygrometer from harvest to smoke. I have used 59's, 62's, 65's and 69's.

You can buy the cheapo hygrometers from China for about a dollar each. They work great after you "calibrate" them.

So, keeping an eye on RH levels is about the easiest thing. Pop your stuff in a jar and toss in a hygrometer. The Boveda packs are optional.

Temperature seems to be getting more consistent from user to user at 200 - 250F.

Pressure is still all over because everyone is using a different apparatus but it is starting to look like... more is better (to a point).

Duration has also leveled out among testers with "longer" winning out over the 10 to 20 second presses we all started with.

A lot of progress has been made since the start of this thread. I have often thought about starting a new Rosin thread with the first 10 or 20 posts being a summary of this thread. However, I bought 2 motorcycles this year already and looking at a third (did someone say "Bi-polar" earlier? LMAO) so I have been riding dawn to dusk as much as is possible between raindrops.

I also wanted to get into some organized testing so I can feel like I put a little useful input into this project but, once again, my time for this is almost non-existent right now.

I have found one thing for sure. The results are definitely strain-specific. I have done all my presses with the same equipment and the same technique. I have pressed 4 different strains so far and each one came out DRAMATICALLY different than the others. And, like I said, I used the same equipment and technique each time.

So, it may be very difficult to get consistent results that we can truly analyze.

If I am still alive after motorcycle season is over, I'll go 150% into testing (you know how us bi-polars are. We always do everything at 150% LOL).

IMO, for small personal presses, the table top A-frame press from Harbor Freight can't be beat. It's a little more money and takes more room than HMK's hand clamp but I really like mine.

As for heaters, I love my thermistors but a simple hair iron seems to be the easiest and cheapest way. And, it seems to work great.

OK, sun is up. Time to go for a ride. See you guys tonight.

 

[heady blunts]

edit: ringo---

you had to weld in the bottle jack to the a-frame right? or was it already assembled?

when are you gonna be rolling those production model mick jagger presses out? lol



slow---

the folks posting in this thread have sacrificed POUNDS of material to experimentation and then out of the goodness of their heart, they come back here to share that info.

i think that's why when you demand answers to questions that have already been covered in the discussion, it rubs people the wrong way.

things like temp and pressure and how long to press and how to prepare the material before you squish and what presses to use and how to build them and the pros and cons of various filter materials etc etc etc--- that's not information we are regurgitating.

it's not like when people ask me about soil biology and i can refer them to a book or an article.

this information cost time and money. be grateful you're getting it for free.



as far as multiple presses---

i've only been keeping first press rosin to dab and vape.

i save all the pressed out wafers and do an ethanol extract when i have a ton of them.

that is my edibles and topicals material.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I think both of you guys are Bipolar. Sometimes you are informative and helpful..other times you are bat shit crazy!

nice drop dropping the shit for proper topic discussion.

lets just say we find you bipolar as well, sometimes overly demanding, and other times just a rude whiny punk!

Lmao I wasn't poking fun I just didn't understand it when I saw it.

and not to be selective, so i have to re-call you out on that. I am positive you called my curve "janky" i didnt go back , pretty sure . I am the originator of the titanium pad on a swingarm with curve setup, so when you called it a janky curve setup, it cut deep man, but i let it go

Well pic only let's me see one angle. The bottom of the fitting may be solid and not tube to that's just a ghetto bell for heated surface lol?

OK i was wrong, you said ghetto bell for heated surface lol, thats what irked me a bit

 

[EsterEssence]

And now back to talking about Rosin, I have been using up the old kief i had, still using the flat iron and vice and was pretty happy with the yield 30-40%. Soon there will be some fresh material, some picking Sunfire's brain and a new larger press, I love this time of year...

 

[Roji]

Im getting 60% yields on some trim bin kief at around 300f in my shirt press. I take apiece of SS mesh and roll the kief like a joint. then i put between parchment and squishhhh.

How are the cool kids these days pressing kief? Am i missing something?

 

[blastfrompast]

Roji...

Everywhere on the map..pressure seems to be the next threshold people and wading into... I'm quite surprised paperless hasn't came out yet tho...

I'm sitting at my desk at work with another jack at my feet waiting for a welder to message me...so more RND..lol

The one thing I Dont like about some of the t-shirt presses..is that your Rosin keeps getting heated after it is forced out... IMHO it is best if you can squish it out the sides using a smaller surface area so you don't keep bubbling your rosin....at least while hand pressing.

 

[EsterEssence]

I get most of the rosin to run away from the heat into a trough under the iron. I will try the roll up method when i get some fresh material this winter...

 

[blastfrompast]

ester:
Did u join the paperless crew

 

[EsterEssence]

No i am still using paper, i did not have enough raw material to run a bunch of r&d, that will come this winter...

 

[Ringodoggie]

blast---

you had to weld in the bottle jack to the a-frame right? or was it already assembled?

when are you gonna be rolling those production model mick jagger presses out? lol

You talking to me?

 

[slowandeasy]

nice drop dropping the shit for proper topic discussion.

lets just say we find you bipolar as well, sometimes overly demanding, and other times just a rude whiny punk!




and not to be selective, so i have to re-call you out on that. I am positive you called my curve "janky" i didnt go back , pretty sure . I am the originator of the titanium pad on a swingarm with curve setup, so when you called it a janky curve setup, it cut deep man, but i let it go





OK i was wrong, you said ghetto bell for heated surface lol, thats what irked me a bit

A whinny punk? I think not. I have recieved a lot of PMs telling me to just ignore your stupid ass, and that you are just a little bitch anyways. You are not a moderator, you are not the ambassador of this thread. For some reason you think you are important or that you are in charge of this thread.. not sure why? You didnt start this thread,, why do you take thing so personal? Do I need to get your approval before I can post?

 

[cyphaman]

Do you think jarring the flowers and one of those hygrometers they talk about in the "perfect cure" thread along with a sponge or apple or wet q-tip might be a good way to go vs squirt bottle. It seems that would get the moisture more evenly dispersed through the flower...which seems like a good thing. I understand having a jar sit at to high of moisture for too long will just grow mold but knowing that "x" strain performs best at "x" moisture might be a.little more precise then "1/2 dry" or "x" amount of squirts from a bottle

yes for sure.. i like to take some clean distiled water and soak a handfull of kleenex , place in some tinfoil and poke many tiny holes, throw in jar on bottom and drop buds on top. leave for a day or so but its all about how much moisture is in the kleenex and how much kleenex is used. love it for getting buds to moisten up before the press but I do find that they dry quickly when prepping tea bags etc so sometimes the water bottle tech comes in handy!

 

[cyphaman]

its amazing how many ways there are to skin a cat.... seeing everyone out there with a completely different version of a custom or DIY press getting amazing results and now finally being able to share that info around..

I still LOVE the 290-300F shirt press tech with just 2gs or so in the middle, (flowers for me though) maybe under an aluminum plate to give it some added height and increase the pressure..thanx for that early on tip btw @ Roji !

you never have to worry about the size of your platen compromising the procedure from being too small, and you can manually control everything, pressure, gradient, time, contact with platens etc. I get the most preferred shatter consistency using this method, maybe having to repress 2 or 3 times because of the quickness. then instantly use a bag of ice or peas and freeze the parchment until the next piece is ready to cool.

collection is easy and the stability is just retarded. I feel like the initial high heat gets it all out and the quick press and instant freeze preserves the favor intensely. still trying to mimic this with the arbor press but transitioning to tea bags has made this a challenge!

with higher pressure pneumatic and arbor press the timing is much harder to control and I can potentially end up with a sappy sometimes decarbed smelling end product. and my plates are never above 240F to start.....the longer press seems to be doing it, can be darker in color too.

I have to stick to the 2-4 seconds rule if I want that nice stable, terpy resin, almost always lighter in color too whether shirt press or arbor press, tea bags or no tea bags.

 

[heady blunts]

You talking to me?

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ringo! i was! my bad homie. still squooshing?

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

A whinny punk? I think not. I have recieved a lot of PMs telling me to just ignore your stupid ass, and that you are just a little bitch anyways. You are not a moderator, you are not the ambassador of this thread. For some reason you think you are important or that you are in charge of this thread.. not sure why? You didnt start this thread,, why do you take thing so personal? Do I need to get your approval before I can post?

you have been whiny. Proof is in your postings.

Now you call me a stupid ass and a little bitch, and ask me how come I get so personal?

You get lots of pms saying to ignore me so this is how you respond?

 

[Ashin'Kusher]

What'cha guys think of this laminator for making Rosin?



Here's my hot iron Rosin press I made after seeing one like it in this thread



Great Thread Guys!

 

[Grey_Fox]

What'cha guys think of this laminator for making Rosin?
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Here's my hot iron Rosin press I made after seeing one like it in this thread
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Great Thread Guys!

the only thing i see wrong with the laminating press you posted is the amount of work space. It doesn't look as tho it has a swing away arm, and the amount of space between plates kinda means you'll have to work out a good way to get your material in there to press. for 150 it could be worth a try, just do a bit of research to find the minimum temp those units can run at. If you are squishing bags of kief like bubbleman then it could be a good option.

One other thing that may be an issue is that I think this unit is meant for a full spread of force across the plates. If you have a high spot like you would with flower material you may dent the platens depending on what/how they are made.

 

[Ringodoggie]

ringo! i was! my bad homie. still squooshing?

Only as fast as I can smoke it. No real testing yet. I bought a new motorcycle and I have been on it every day. Once the weather breaks, I'll be doing more pot related stuff.

As for your other question about the bottle jack....

no welding or anything required. The press is just as I bought it from Harbor Freight.

I like this much better than the arbor press. With the arbor, I had to stand non the handle or hang on it to maintain the maximum pressure for the duration.

That wasn't so bad when we were pressing for only 10 to 30 seconds. But, when we started doing 2 minute presses at low temps, the A frame shop press kicks ass.

I maintain that (for individual users) this setup with the small shop press, the 2 aluminum plates, and the PTC heating elements, is the cheapest (heavy duty) way to go. The entire setup is under $100.

The HMK press with the locking clamp is cheaper and seems to work just as well but my old arthritic hands are too fucked up to squeeze like that. The bottle jack makes it all so easy. Albeit, it's a little bigger than the nice portable HMK press.

I will be marketing the commercial version very shortly. I am having some legal problems with Mick Jagger's agent over the photographs but Mick has agreed to accept one dab of Panama Red for each unit sold.