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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

Sunfire

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Not to be a dick bro, but it took me weeks of research to find that material, sorry it's proprietary for now. I think you missed my point though, it's extremely expensive, I don't think it's worth the price. Just do smaller presses so you don't have blow outs. I only got it to test the upper limits of things. There's a minimum order quantity too. It costed me a couple hundred bucks just to play with it so I can tell you my opinion. as of now, with current technique, it's not worth the 35 dollars a square foot when I can get ss mesh for 3 dollars a square foot if you buy in bulk.

Francy, ummmmmm, the type of thing your talking about, is exactly what lots of Californians are trying to stop from happening. Right now it's looking like a 5 year residency to have any licensing. Dan rush just got federally indicted, I'd stay away from any big player dispensaries in LA for a while cause he's walking around free as a bird right now, which means he's rolling on people. His lawyer, teerbeek, was the one that rolled on him so I'm sure he rolled on others too. The indictment completely reads like they are gonna take down a lot more people. Big outlets up north are also being watched by state task forces and now they brought in the forestry department and fish and game to go after the grow sites. The central valley water board is also getting on board. There's been a lot of busts and action up north recently. The feds and everyone else are trying to squeeze the last round of fines and arrests out of the state before 2016. Be careful man, Shits no joke right now in cali. Whatever you do stay away from Hezekiah allen and the EGA up north! Whatever local licenses they have now, will most likely be null and void soon. This is a messed up issue we all are having. We don't know how to handle our county stuff cause we are still waiting to see what requirements the state hands down. I know I seem like Debbie downer today, I'm jist trying to look out for your safety man. Keep things on the low until after 2016 when we see how recreational goes and which initiative, if any passes. Cause that will once again, change everything.
 

Francy420

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Thanks for looking out brother. Trust me we won't be doing anything big enough to get noticed compared to what others are doing. Our lawyer Aerial Clark seems to think things will work them selves out just fine, but we shall see hey.
 

heady blunts

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here's what i've been using to filter:

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if you prefer having a pouch:

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Sunfire

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Shhhhhh heady you ruined the secret! Lol no I'm just kidding. I've previously talked about coffee filters many many times before! They are great if you stay around 1 gram per square inch and if doing flowers or trim, the material isn't excessively moist. Incrementing the pressure helps fight off blow out too.

I use ss mesh when I go bigger in the 3 or 4 gram per square inch department
 

slowandeasy

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Shhhhhh heady you ruined the secret! Lol no I'm just kidding. I've previously talked about coffee filters many many times before! They are great if you stay around 1 gram per square inch and if doing flowers or trim, the material isn't excessively moist. Incrementing the pressure helps fight off blow out too.

I use ss mesh when I go bigger in the 3 or 4 gram per square inch department

Do you happen to have a link to your source of ss mesh? Any particles get threw? Thanks! Rainbows
 

blastfrompast

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Raise your hand if you have been shot with a piece of bud/hash from the heat+pressure+steam buildup....

:)

Fresh presses are especially bad for this... :)
 

Sunfire

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Hands up high!!!! Both of em!!!! Had hot oils explode everywhere Many times! Many shirts and pants have been permastained!

Slow - it's hard to find the right stuff. Most places that sell mesh for filtration purposes, incorporate special weaves using larger wire diameters for more strength at lower micron counts. However they come out Hella thick and I don't like it, takes longer for heat transfer, which makes blow out more realistic, which means slower application of pressure, which leads to much longer press times and possible decarb and terp loss.Utah bio diesel is one such company. At 74 micron it starts getting thick. 45 micron is Hella thick. Twp is a local company in cali, kinda pricey, they got a lot of fun options though. If your trying to order rolls and spend a few hundred on minimum order quantities, well the world is your oyster really, Google around. The 3 dollar a square foot was for 100u from some place in europe. China of course has lots to offer. For smaller orders, Benny the stooge on ebay has really good prices for single square foot swatches. He has a website too bit it's best to just email him as his website doesn't reflect all his inventory. His stuff is all standard weave down to 500 mesh which I think is like 25u. Yes all meshes will start to clog up and eventually blow out. It's nice to have a handful of them to rotate and clean or soak. A quick ten minute soak and an air compressor nozzle to the outside face (opposite of the the face the material was touching) seems to do the trick end ensure longer life.

I'm not sure about the particle thing with hashes. You know I think it really depends on how clean the hash is. Super melty stuff maybe a tighter micron would be nice. The pretty dirty tumbled kief I work with, has a lot of non resin material in it. It seems to me like that non resin material acts like a filter in itself. After the press, the material is like a hempcrete brick. I feel like only the outer edges might leach some stalks or matter into your rosin. How much? Idk. Does it really even matter? Not to me lol! I still am a proponent of natural fiber in bleached coffee filters. I've gotten away with up to 1.5g/in2 with coffee filters. If that's acceptable to you, it soooo much less prep, cleaning, mess, everything. I just toss em in the compost pile! Yay!
 

heady blunts

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we gave everyone a month or two to make their money selling those little nylon pouches :biggrin:

yea blast right in the mf'ing face! the fresh squeeze was what did it for me. now i wait ~12 hours till it's lost a bit of moisture. also an incremental squeeze seems to help avoid blowouts rather than mashing down all at once.
 

Sunfire

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we gave everyone a month or two to make their money selling those little nylon pouches :biggrin:

yea blast right in the mf'ing face! the fresh squeeze was what did it for me. now i wait ~12 hours till it's lost a bit of moisture. also an incremental squeeze seems to help avoid blowouts rather than mashing down all at once.

Omfg you ok?!?!?!? I had a face shot once (that's what she said) and it was very close to my eye. Back when we all didn't know as much and I was working like 300F. I am so thankful it didn't get in my eye, wtf would I tell the optometrist???
 

heady blunts

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haha yea i'm fine.

i had assumed it was just a piece of herb that had shot out a single piece of like popcorn or something but now that you mention it i do have inexplicable splatter stains all over one of my shirts....

maybe the doc woulda believed a deep frying accident?
 

slowandeasy

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Hands up high!!!! Both of em!!!! Had hot oils explode everywhere Many times! Many shirts and pants have been permastained!

Slow - it's hard to find the right stuff. Most places that sell mesh for filtration purposes, incorporate special weaves using larger wire diameters for more strength at lower micron counts. However they come out Hella thick and I don't like it, takes longer for heat transfer, which makes blow out more realistic, which means slower application of pressure, which leads to much longer press times and possible decarb and terp loss.Utah bio diesel is one such company. At 74 micron it starts getting thick. 45 micron is Hella thick. Twp is a local company in cali, kinda pricey, they got a lot of fun options though. If your trying to order rolls and spend a few hundred on minimum order quantities, well the world is your oyster really, Google around. The 3 dollar a square foot was for 100u from some place in europe. China of course has lots to offer. For smaller orders, Benny the stooge on ebay has really good prices for single square foot swatches. He has a website too bit it's best to just email him as his website doesn't reflect all his inventory. His stuff is all standard weave down to 500 mesh which I think is like 25u. Yes all meshes will start to clog up and eventually blow out. It's nice to have a handful of them to rotate and clean or soak. A quick ten minute soak and an air compressor nozzle to the outside face (opposite of the the face the material was touching) seems to do the trick end ensure longer life.

I'm not sure about the particle thing with hashes. You know I think it really depends on how clean the hash is. Super melty stuff maybe a tighter micron would be nice. The pretty dirty tumbled kief I work with, has a lot of non resin material in it. It seems to me like that non resin material acts like a filter in itself. After the press, the material is like a hempcrete brick. I feel like only the outer edges might leach some stalks or matter into your rosin. How much? Idk. Does it really even matter? Not to me lol! I still am a proponent of natural fiber in bleached coffee filters. I've gotten away with up to 1.5g/in2 with coffee filters. If that's acceptable to you, it soooo much less prep, cleaning, mess, everything. I just toss em in the compost pile! Yay!

I will try some coffee filters....I already have them. Not pouches tho. When I try to ball up shake, it does not work that well. It would be nice o get Rosin out of shake, I hate it when I spend the time and effort on making Rosin and get a blow out. Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your response!
 

heady blunts

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for trim/shake you gotta preform it to get the best returns.

i either press it in an old school hash press to make little pucks, or i roll it like a way-too-tight joint without the paper.

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props to HMK for the snake idea. i end up using it over the pucks because it's way faster than the hash press. i like up two or three side by side in a filter bundle allows me to press much more per press. just keep in mind sunfire's advice about the 1g per sqare inch to avoid blowout.

just make sure to use a filter material cause i get more contaminants from trim than i do from buds. one wrap in a coffee filter and it's clean and clear.

i've run a lot of trim this way. it's a bit of a pain in the butt tho.

i'm considering kiefing all my trim as a pre-rosin process this time. i'm hoping it may be a bit more efficient than pre-pressing everything.
 

Croptober

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Whipped 160u Afghani mix rosin

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Sunfire

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Damn crop, that material is juicy! Second press looks bountiful!

Slow - yeah man it does suck, we all know and have been there. It takes some experimenting. You'll lose material to R&D but you'll figure it out quickly. The more moisture, the more expansion you'll have. It's good sometimes to leave the filter a little loose.

Heady - I see a total of half the return from rumbling kief as I would just pressing trim. It's ablut 4 times less amount of presses though to process the kief vs trim. I also really really feel like more terps are to be had from pressing the actual plant material. Especially when the trim looks as good as what you got in that pic. It's a personal judgement of how much time you have and hard your trying to pinch pennies on the return. Lets say you have 500 grams of dank trim, just for round numbers let's imagine 20% return, that's 100 grams. If you tumbled into to kief and pressed the kief, you'd have about 4 times less pressing to do, but will only have around 50 grams of rosin to show for it In the end. Maybe soak the post tumbled material I'd ethanol or warm coconut oil?
 

Sunfire

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You guys, that's not way! Your supposed to pay 20 times more for a weaker pneumatic C frame with 20 times less force! Your not in compliance with the status quo. Cease and desist immediately!

...sarcasm meter is pinned in the red in case you didn't know
 

Grey_Fox

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doing some testing today on the new plates I whipped up. Will probably go for a thinner top plate in the long run.
On another note. tasty looking stuff Crop!
 
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Grey_Fox

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Yoir so damned good!
:biggrin: thanks for the vote of confidence to get me to this point!. I can't wait to see what you whip up for the future : P
just got the plates mounted and ready for the controller which I am going to make a box for tomorrow and complete the soldering on.

Each plate will plug into a separate port on the box. One platen has the heat sensor so there will be a 4 pin connector for that and a 2 pin connector for the opposing platen.
MORE PICTURES! : D
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Sunfire

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Heat sensor??? Your going big, decided to not stick with analog? Or are you saying it's just a read out and not a controller?
 
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