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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

Lyfespan

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Grey_Fox

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Going to give the pads a try and see if using 4 total layers of silicone works well. Its nice because i was just barely able to get the oil slick pad cut in half and to fit on the flat irons well.
 

slowandeasy

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holy shit I have lots of reading to do..Just found this thread.

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I fucking love making rosin. Never will I go back to BHO.. here's some pics of what I've been getting with the pink/black conair with 2" plates.(temps around 260-290)

I use greentea bags and empty them, cut them really short, maybe 2-3" tall and fold one end, stuff a bunch of keif and pack it fat(fatter the bump, fatter the yield), fold it up and cut off as much paper as I can without letting the keif fall out, and squeeeeeeze that baby.

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I've been getting around 15-25% on average but I hit 30 one night when we used bud/trim kief and tossed it in the freezer for a bit before the run..

from what I've noticed the starting moisture content of whatever your pressing is the most important factor for your yield..
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about to light up some purple alien and get to reading...:smoke:


How long you squeezing for? Do you see a tea bag with just bud? 260-290 seems high, but if it works it works! Thanks fir sharing
 

Grey_Fox

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a few pics for you fine folks. http://imgur.com/a/Jia4H
I've done about 2g's of tests so far. two presses of .5g and one at .9
first press was done at the first heat setting which sits the silicone pads at around 215-220 degrees and I did a 20 second press at full pressure(minus the extra from squeezing the handle)which didn't yield too well on the first press and required two more to get a proper yield.

second press was done at the 5th heat setting which sits the silicone pads at about 230 degrees and I did a 30 second pull with full pressure plus the additional pressure from holding the handle down, which seemed to yield great returns and great colour shatter. I could swear some of it almost looked white while collecting(could have just gotten really thin) Did a second and third press at 35 and 40 seconds which gave me some darker shatter but not much in the way of returns which makes me think I have it somewhat dialed if I am getting 75% of the return from the first press and the remaining 25% from the second and third press.

third press of .9g was done at the same heat setting as the second and same style of pressure. I didn't end up counting the time as I was talking with my buddy and showing him how fun and easy it is. I would guess around 30-40 seconds? but I got very similar returns to the second and the end cookie weighed in at .7g(not sure how accurate this is for telling yields due to water weight and stuff but my scale isn't accurate enough to get a good reading from the collected material itself. hopefully this gives and idea of returns?)

As far as the silicone pads on the heaters go, it seems to be working fairly well so far after the 2g run. I like the added heat spread and I am also hoping that having 4 layers of silicone pad will help keep wear and tear down as a whole. I'll try some larger presses tomorrow and let you all know how it goes! If you people feel up to the task give it a try as well and let me know what you think, as I feel it has helped my returns.
I don't have any pictures of the collected material on the pads as this was just some personal test runs I was doing to make sure it was running well(I was also sampling the material:)). I'll have some nice sample shots, and actual measurements on weights for you fine people after I pick up a good scale tomorrow :huggg: Thank you to all the people in this fine thread helping to advance this stuff we love so much and thanks to HMK for the stoner ingenuity.

one thing I might change up is the rubber pads which the flat irons mount to. I would like them to be one solid piece that has no flex just to have a much more rigid unit:3
 

cyphaman

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The multi tier stack is a terrible idea do what we want unless you make an apparatus that loads all the slots easily, perfectly lined up, and at the same time, which I have ideas for.

the groove design is a terrible idea and strait will find that lit for himself or he was just bullshitting to try to save face. Idk I don't want to talk shit ablut him but truth of the matter was that wasn't a debate...there were facts, and there were theoretical possibilites...

Wtf aare you gonna do with 400 tons???? I've been researching containment options, found 2 promising leads but nothing with withstand thay kinda force dude your crazy!


right on..i wasnt actually proposing any of these, I was just trying to show people how easy these things are to find...whatever suits your need, without the markup of some company trying to cash in and show one side of the coin.

strait concentrates seem to be doing pretty large scale flower rosin production , Id like to be able to really scale up, I didnt show many of the real good finds just because most of the stuff I posted all goes by similar names, produced by similar industries for a few different purposes.

I love the idea of the hydraulic press with the heat platens, I know youre not to fond of this , but with the right Tonnage and a big ass surface area compared to what im doing now I think that Flowers would be pressed and filtered with ease, utilizing that gradient to pin point pressure. something this size, 20 tons sounds good ! but shes an oldy lol http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CARVER-ENERP...506?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cfe7a195a i quite like the lab presses because im sure they range from 10-50 tons and there is surely lots of used ones out there to be snatched up.

Im still doing some searching but in the meantime its all about modifying what I have at my disposal and so far ive been delayed by shipping wait times and lack of forethought.

thanks for the filtration ideas again thats my goal for tomorrow is to grab some different cheap materials to utilize , saving a few bucks down the road.

I do wonder, how low one could go though, with regards to temps if the right amount of pressure was applied :dance013:
 

Sunfire

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https://www.d-nail.com/d-nail-heat-press


bubbleman did a nice demo in hash church this morning..
Im sold on it for 475 for the 15x15"

...yeah...I wonder if it's just going to be an eternal thing where no one actually reads this thread or the research in it and keep talking about glorified t shirt presses with extremely low pressure.

The 5x5" plates was their best idea yet but that design will only be able to hold a small amount of pressure. Even if you burrito tech at half size that's 12.5 square inches over very little pressure.lookong at it makes me think maybe you can lock it in for twice your body weight. Idk why they made the lever so short??? Should be like atleast a foot past the locking hinges, preferably more.

I've shared this before but I'll do it again...

http://www.sign-in-china.com/produc...l_t_shirt_heat_press_machine_with_drawer.html

this one has push button adjustable pressures up to 800kg for like 400$. I don't think the bottom plated is heated but thays really not a problem.if you use aluminum shims and preheat those really quick. Of you absolutely insist on burning terps and decarbing oils, atleast step up your pressure game.

The dnail design just shows they didn't do any research! Why the hell did they use a second controller for the bottom platen???? A multi loop controller with multiple ins and outs is like 4 dollars more. They failed to communicate with China and this is what they got cause they did none of their own independent research. If I told china I wanted both platens heated and they sent me a model with TWO controller boxes I would have freaked out!. That actually costs more to do it like that then paying the extra 4 dollars for one that control multiple zones.

Had I previously mentioned why I don't watch hash church anymore...? No disrespect intended of course. I would actually love to go on there and give a presentation with all my theories but I'm unfortunately not nearly cool enough, maybe one day...
 

slowandeasy

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...yeah...I wonder if it's just going to be an eternal thing where no one actually reads this thread or the research in it and keep talking about glorified t shirt presses with extremely low pressure.

The 5x5" plates was their best idea yet but that design will only be able to hold a small amount of pressure. Even if you burrito tech at half size that's 12.5 square inches over very little pressure.lookong at it makes me think maybe you can lock it in for twice your body weight. Idk why they made the lever so short??? Should be like atleast a foot past the locking hinges, preferably more.

I've shared this before but I'll do it again...

http://www.sign-in-china.com/produc...l_t_shirt_heat_press_machine_with_drawer.html

this one has push button adjustable pressures up to 800kg for like 400$. I don't think the bottom plated is heated but thays really not a problem.if you use aluminum shims and preheat those really quick. Of you absolutely insist on burning terps and decarbing oils, atleast step up your pressure game.

The dnail design just shows they didn't do any research! Why the hell did they use a second controller for the bottom platen???? A multi loop controller with multiple ins and outs is like 4 dollars more. They failed to communicate with China and this is what they got cause they did none of their own independent research. If I told china I wanted both platens heated and they sent me a model with TWO controller boxes I would have freaked out!. That actually costs more to do it like that then paying the extra 4 dollars for one that control multiple zones.

Had I previously mentioned why I don't watch hash church anymore...? No disrespect intended of course. I would actually love to go on there and give a presentation with all my theories but I'm unfortunately not nearly cool enough, maybe one day...


Why do you rag on everyone else all of the time? I do not see your kick ass machine in production. If you spent more time on your ideas insteadnof finding faults in others...maybe you would be done with the best rosin press on the market. Calling other people's ideas stupid, horrible ideas, etc. Is just immature, keep some opinions to yourself brother.
 

FatherEarth

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that design also has a 15 x 15 model.. and both plates are heated...
1500lbs of pressure works great.. at least in what I saw bubbleman do with it...
 

FatherEarth

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from field trials of others and personal experience, both plates need to be heated...at least it works better that way...
 
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