New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[cyphaman]

unless your press wont allow it, snakes are better than round pucks. think about the crush pattern. a round thing crushes out exactly evenly round, and get round and larger. so the width of the puck is greater than if you make a snake of the same weight that is long and skinny. a smaller area compressing puck lends an easier spread to the extract. a wider puck doesnt allow it to leach as completely from the edge zone in particular.

ahhh very well said brother!

Another thing I have found is that when broken down smaller (pea sized but condensed) compared to the puck or bigger nugs is that the actual spread of each piece is minimized making the squish rather effortless and this does't force out as much contamination. When I made 1 g pucks with the Garlic Press I found that they spread out rapidly and far.....pushing out more contaminant so the end result was waaay messier. I haven NOT tried this on the shirt press though, only the pneumatic so maybe Gangja and others are having better results with lower pressures ! ( I would want to try the puck tek again with proper filters and see how that goes though on the shirt press instead)

I like just being able to pick up the snake in 1 pull with the dabber or tweezer and then just lightly pick any remaining specs out. I often like to pre press the snake with a hair straightener (no heat) and then open it up and blow out any of the shake that has unsettled and then close em back up. Its tedious but worth the extra bit of prep work.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

when the buds are dried properly, but not too dry, i get very close to 0 contamination. like often 0, or 1 or 2 specs. if you are getting a bunch of crumbs that too dry imo, and will affect yield also.

 

[heady blunts]

I've been pre pressing little pucks of trim with a hash press before putting it in the rosin press.

I agree that they are a bad shape especially for the hair iron, so I slice the disk in half and arrange the pieces so they make a long narrow parallelogram. it presses out to nearly the same shape as a snake but I think I'm getting possibly better returns with it. still experimenting...

now that I've said that I think maybe I'll do a controlled test with snakes vs cut pucks of the same weight and try to get some numbers. I'll report back!

 

[cyphaman]

when the buds are dried properly, but not too dry, i get very close to 0 contamination. like often 0, or 1 or 2 specs. if you are getting a bunch of crumbs that too dry imo, and will affect yield also.

i did add some moisture into the bud but come to think of it by the time I had the oz all broken down into little pea sized pellets and pressed into 1.5 or so gram piles they had dried out again lol

the moistest bud Ive tried hit 20% so I think I need to start adding more moisture! I tried adding some in my jar but probably was on the lesser side. thanks!

 

[blastfrompast]

Holy cow am i ever loving fresh pressed flower Rosin,

Can we post video's here to ic mag..ie upload them?

I want to put up a vid of me pullign a bud from a plant, rolling it into snake, pressing it, and collecting rosin .....

 

[Phagoos]

There is a 'My Videos' button in your profile. However I don't know if you have permission to post there. At least I don't, but I only have 11 posts.
You could try to upload it to tinypic and share the link.

 

[Grow Tech]

I just made.some bubble .... it's currently drying. How dry should I get it before pressing.

 

[2000pm]

So is there a consensus on a hair straightener of "choice" yet or is everyone digging randoms out of bins and stealing from sisters still?

I busted up my conair so I want to get the right piece of equipment this time. The ability to go low in temp would of course be great. I will be mounting to the irwin clamp a la HMK.

 

[PHRosin]

I heard this one has low temperature and is "tough as nails" from someone on another rosin forum. I use a Remington that I got for around the same price but mine only goes down to 300. Good luck with this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230897484679?redirect=mobile

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Holy cow am i ever loving fresh pressed flower Rosin,

Can we post video's here to ic mag..ie upload them?

I want to put up a vid of me pullign a bud from a plant, rolling it into snake, pressing it, and collecting rosin .....

regardless of a video just explain how you get away with that bro? i tried a few times at least, never got any yield worth dabbing, just great aromas and a wet puddle with a tiny bit of goo at most.. maybe its strain dependant, or can you do it with any strain and get good yield?

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I heard this one has low temperature and is "tough as nails" from someone on another rosin forum.

rosin forum, where is this please?

 

[Symbiotic AD]

I apologize if this has been clarified earlier in the thread, but I am reading that some of your are pressing out bubble hash and keif... whats the purpose of this? Are you not reducing your yields from the bubble? Do you just toss the bubble or do you still use it. I'm very new to this and while I think its a great way to make oil from buds, I don't fully understand the concept behind pressing hash.

 

[Grow Tech]

I apologize if this has been clarified earlier in the thread, but I am reading that some of your are pressing out bubble hash and keif... whats the purpose of this? Are you not reducing your yields from the bubble? Do you just toss the bubble or do you still use it. I'm very new to this and while I think its a great way to make oil from buds, I don't fully understand the concept behind pressing hash.

The idea would be to further refine the hash. Basically take no- melt hash and make full melt

 

[PHRosin]

rosin forum, where is this please?

Not a rosin forum actually, a rosin thread:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/rosin-technique-easy-diy-solventless.17470/

 

[EsterEssence]

I apologize if this has been clarified earlier in the thread, but I am reading that some of your are pressing out bubble hash and keif... whats the purpose of this? Are you not reducing your yields from the bubble? Do you just toss the bubble or do you still use it. I'm very new to this and while I think its a great way to make oil from buds, I don't fully understand the concept behind pressing hash.

If you have trim you tumble the trim to make kief and rosin the kief.

 

[blastfrompast]

Try pressing buds from a living plant that is suffering from water stress...droopy, but very much alive....

Seems to be a very fine line between too much moisture in buds, also strain is very important, im using a sativa leaning WW My GA doesn't work as well fresh frozen wise. I think it is more about calyx size and structure also...

I am batting 75% with this tek right now, every 4th run I get a blowout....Can't wait to try some in a piston press with some nice fresh SS screens.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

fresh frozen wise, so does that mean you take the buds from the plant and freeze them first, even with the WW sativa?

 

[ThirdEyeVision]

I've had one strain that i was able to do a fresh rosin press from, the rest were all worthless puddles of water. I found you have to do the initial snake press very gently to steam out as much water as possible, while minimizing the leaching of actual oil using a very gentle gradual pressing technique. Then take the pancaked bud and re-roll into a snake and do your normal high pressure press. I am going to try and water stress some plants, it should help for sure.

So far this double snake press works great for herb that is around 40-60% dry, gives an amazing flavor profile. I chopped a plant at 35 days totally unfinished to see how she would squish, and it was a white-golden jelly that blew your head off.

@Grow Tech ive squished bubble hash within a couple hours of pulling bags and it worked surprisingly well. Make sure to use an oven mit or something similar because the steam will get you good!
Not sure about residule moisture and mold for longer term storage, most likely not a good idea, but for some quick dabs it did the job.

 

[Grey_Fox]

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was browsing the reddit in /r/rosin and someone had posted these in an arbor press thread. just wondering what every ones thoughts are? could be a cheaper source for heating pads.
Does any one else have good sources for flat iron heating plates?

I also like the palm style flat iron as it looks like the plates seem to be 2.5x2.5 or so inches, just wondering if it would be possible to wire these pads up to a controller from another flat iron to lower the temps down into the range we want.

 

[KronosLab]

plates aren't where its at for production I don't think. something you mentioned in another post is a better tactic I think sunfire. some type of cylindrical heated tubular press, that doesn't allow the medium to spread as it is compressed...

Late to the party and not quite caught up after reading through over 90 pages of posts during the past week.

Had an exchange with a chemist friend the other day who related a tale about an old friend who worked in a shop with CNC equipment. He says said friend maybe 15 - 20 years back created such a press. The configuration resembled a soda pop can that had a hole bored vertically down the center but not all the way through. A small hole was drilled in the bottom. A piston was milled to fit the inside diameter of the can-like die.

The die was filled with pot, the piston inserted. This was placed in a large, high capacity press. The figure he quoted was iirc 50 tons. Said pressure applied and oil flowed out the bottom. Bear in mind this was quite a while ago and memories can play tricks.

Here's another semi-related tip. This kind of operation is frequently encountered in the fireworks manufacturing industry during the making of rockets and comets. There are specialty manufacturers who make equipment for these purposes: presses, pumps & dies known as "comet pumps," and even devices that one can insert between the plunger of the press and the tooling to measure the pressure on the tooling with great precision.

One such maker is Wolter Pyro Tools.

http://www.wolterpyrotools.com/?page=cc_catg&cat=stars

Go have a look.