Good call. From my experience which is not too extensive with dry sift. Well actually I mostly make sift, but would never dare squeeze my grade a sift 99.9% heads. Absolute travesty to me. But I do press my contaminant and c grade piles. No matter what temp they always seem to come out a tad green. Again I never press the good stuff though. I also almost never press my good bags from bubble, but find my lower grades of bubble press out better than my lower grades of sift. Just what I experience. I have also played around with everything from tea bags up to 120u screen to press.
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I recently ran my Trining Day through water and over screens and the IWE was so terpy it almost hurt. Same taste in the dry sift just not as strong. You may be on to something there.
I heard them talking about it on hash church. I can't see how getting the material wet then trying to dry it, then making rosin is the way to do it. For me i would rather just tumble the material dry, collect the kief then separate some for 99.9% and rosin the rest. I liked how Rob Clark talked about all the water hash at the Chalice out of 50 or so entry's in the solvent less category there was only one that was real hash, the rest was a bunch of molding crap...Hooray for us well traveled old hash smokers...
I've tried water wash bubble hash, freeze dried, using same water for all washes...
I leave he patties loose, freeze and then crumble them to dust, let them dry for a week, then press the dust into rosin....
No autobudder-waxing abviously, but it keeps more flavor than water wash, then air dry it seems.
Still nothing compared to flower rosin tho..
Pressed some Jacks cleaner flowers yesterday....tasted like pure lemon...too much actually.
ended up mixing it 4-1 with some flower ww rosin I had to mellow it out..very nice at that point....
260'f will definately start to decarb, but look at the curve....depending on how fast a press/pull they do it can have very little decarbing action take place
Hot and fast, or slow/cold and hard.
Bent the arm on my vice for hand pressing yesterday again....that is what I get for using a breaker bar on it..lol....
I leave he patties loose, freeze and then crumble them to dust, let them dry for a week, then press the dust into rosin....
No autobudder-waxing abviously, but it keeps more flavor than water wash, then air dry it seems.
Still nothing compared to flower rosin tho..
Pressed some Jacks cleaner flowers yesterday....tasted like pure lemon...too much actually.
ended up mixing it 4-1 with some flower ww rosin I had to mellow it out..very nice at that point....
260'f will definately start to decarb, but look at the curve....depending on how fast a press/pull they do it can have very little decarbing action take place
Hot and fast, or slow/cold and hard.
Bent the arm on my vice for hand pressing yesterday again....that is what I get for using a breaker bar on it..lol....
Bent the arm on my vice for hand pressing yesterday again....that is what I get for using a breaker bar on it..lol...
I got a good laugh thanks....
I got a good laugh thanks....
Yeah I figure the green is from chlorophyll, and have tried just about every filter size next to lab papers like 5 micron. I figure loss would be pretty large with a 5u lab paper though. I totally agree though that making bubble and having to dry again seems totally counterproductive. Though I have done "junk" runs just for rosin and dried those in the vac chamber in like 2 hrs. Worked good for that purpose as I wasn't expecting top shelf to start with. I washed all my old material that had been over the dry sift screens already, and it returned a pretty damn nice product. Of course I beat the shit out of it with a paint mixer old school style.
friends gave me some hash rosin, its fire!!! super sap, but has that gas I like!
Cant weait till the long weekend for new experiments, not sure that the plates will be in though.
I am so surprised that tony and strait arent using like 50 tons, or more those hydraulic jacks are pretty inexpensive....Hes knocking the pneumatic but yet hes not been able to really elaborate on why theirs is any better, just different.
I also realized that since I am heating plates, I need to account for some heat loss so to hit 150 on the press I might need to start at 165 or so, and check right before the squish with the IR gun to see where we press at...although Im fine with using 200-220F it works fantastic for me and with the right sized plates the oil will instantly begin to cool. I ALSO find that thickness is huge, and SA for flowers so to get it all in 1 squish (bond dry nug afterwards) is my end goal, but im going to try and utilize the burrito canoli tech to get that extra thick splurge~!!
I like the hash rosin! I might have to get my bubble game going but for now flowerrosin all day!!!
og's have typically been the highest yielding squishes for me, go figure...I pressed out a half # of XXX og flowers a while back, the rosin was fairly light in color, and tasted very good...not really like og but it didn't have a vaped weed taste at all, kinda tasted like watermelon? lol that was made with a 1.5" straightener and all of my body weight...I'm fairly certain that I would have been able to increase my yields with the hmk quick grip technique...that has been pretty solid, although my actual temps are unknown...I keep it on it's lowest setting and just roll with it.
I've had rose colored rosin from a couple different strains as well, i think it ultimately is just like any other form of concentrate wherein quality in = quality out.
I've had rose colored rosin from a couple different strains as well, i think it ultimately is just like any other form of concentrate wherein quality in = quality out.
from a purely smokers standpoint the rose colored stuff was awesome in terms of flavor & potency, but that coloration was inconsistent from nug to nug...maybe 1 in 3 oozed the rose. I like doing fresh presses pretty much as I go through it, sometimes the yield from 2-3gs is enough to hold me and the chick over for a couple days. other days we will press a quarter oz in a day, especially if we have company...between the both of us we go through maybe .5-1g a day, concentrates make up probably 90% or more of our total herb consumption...the rose colored stuff certainly didn't have much time to degrade before it was gone maybe a couple days tops, and there was no change in color...I also store all my concentrates at room temp(65-75f) fwiw, since I don't have a separate freezer/refrigerator for my medical needs.
they can give it all the technical names they want, I assume that it would be considered common sense..but than again common sense may as well just be called sense, since it's not all that common lol not that I have any issues with proper terminology
they can give it all the technical names they want, I assume that it would be considered common sense..but than again common sense may as well just be called sense, since it's not all that common lol not that I have any issues with proper terminology
sounds like the dark purple oil i got. i pressed this one strain like 20 times, only 2 or 3 times got the purple.
how long does it typically take you to dry your herb? I typically dry my stuff out in 4-5 days max, put it in a turkey and let it sweat overnight and it's usually at an ideal level of dry all the way through...some of my friends dry quite a bit slower than I do (7-10 days) and the rosin from their stuff is always darker than mine(and usually gets sweated out for at least a few days, the color of the herb definitely darkens). that would also kind of tie into the flash freezing done by extractors of fresh frozen material and the impressive light colors they get...just something else to consider anyways. I pre-press nugs by hand I guess, I always compact the nugs as much as possible before pressing.
gonna have to try to quick dry some stuff and compare...wouldn't it be nice if achieving the clear was as simple as 90F 0%rh for like 36 hrs?
gonna have to try to quick dry some stuff and compare...wouldn't it be nice if achieving the clear was as simple as 90F 0%rh for like 36 hrs?
I've dried in 90+F many times, unintentionally of course...and I definitely wouldn't consider it ideal especially if the flowers are going to be consumed as is...but for the purpose of experimentation, the quicker the dry the better.
I only suggested it may play a role because it's something I've noticed with me and my friends...I can't really pinpoint a reason that oils from some gardens are lighter than others even same strains taken at the same flowering times. I certainly wasn't implying that you were drying wrong. I have my drying methods, and I can't remember the last time I've ever gotten anything but positive feedback...many ways to skin this cat. I don't pull early for extracts either. I just think that my drying methods may play a role in the lighter colors of rosin I get, thats all
I honestly don't even think age of material makes a huge impact in terms of color either, I pressed out some ssh that was in a jar since last august a few days ago and it was very slightly darker than normal, and definitely didn't taste as good.
I only suggested it may play a role because it's something I've noticed with me and my friends...I can't really pinpoint a reason that oils from some gardens are lighter than others even same strains taken at the same flowering times. I certainly wasn't implying that you were drying wrong. I have my drying methods, and I can't remember the last time I've ever gotten anything but positive feedback...many ways to skin this cat. I don't pull early for extracts either. I just think that my drying methods may play a role in the lighter colors of rosin I get, thats all
I honestly don't even think age of material makes a huge impact in terms of color either, I pressed out some ssh that was in a jar since last august a few days ago and it was very slightly darker than normal, and definitely didn't taste as good.
ya sativas darken way slower. try doing something like that with bubba kush. in just a few weeks the extracts darken considerably. on the otherhand, when pressing sativas, or indicas, sativas darken in less time/ heat than indicas.
good to know, I have a lot of hybrids around but most of em lean to the sativa side. I'm not a big fan of growing indicas either, I need things to stretch to fill out the canopy...that, and I certainly don't need any help being lazy.
