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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

EsterEssence

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I think variable pressure, like with hydraulics or a vice, or with the hand clamp is what will prevail with large presses. I find doing keif balls, patties, snakes, once it gets warm it compresses, then you need to add some more pressure to get a good yield.
 

EsterEssence

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Sorry for two post's in a row, but in Sunfire's defense i think he has tried to share his knowledge with some of the folks making Rosin presses and was not taken serious...
 

whadeezlrg

Just Say Grow
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lol fwiw in hindsight i felt like my panties may have been in a bunch about sunfire's speed posting antics a while back...thanks for all of the info & research you contribute sunfire & everyone else for that matter...

lets keep the ball rollin'!
 

Sunfire

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Why do you rag on everyone else all of the time? I do not see your kick ass machine in production. If you spent more time on your ideas insteadnof finding faults in others...maybe you would be done with the best rosin press on the market. Calling other people's ideas stupid, horrible ideas, etc. Is just immature, keep some opinions to yourself brother.

first off, finding faults in previous techniques and technologies is HOW THEY PROGRESS. Lmfao seriously if everyone was fine with the steam engine, we wouldn't have jets now, would we?

But your right, those are all the best designs, ima just give up now.
 

FatherEarth

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Lol it's all good. I just saw something and wanted to share it. I have zero research into the dnail press except what I've shared here from the site. No need to apologize, you obviously have a passion. Carry on.
 

Sunfire

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Word bro thanks for sharing. Sorry I kinda lumped you in with slow and easy. You got a little residual flame cause that was not a well organized or deductive arguement on my part.

but that all just got deleted cause I don't even care in the end, I got nothing to prove to anyone but everything to myself, so I'll be focusing on that for a while.

first I gotta make a response to ganja pharma....
 

GanjaPharma

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I played with one of the D-PRESS units today...the small one based off a hat press, but with the second controller. My initial critique (after 8 hours of playing with flowers, sugar trim, kief & bubble):

This is a PERSONAL system, not something geared towards mass production.
The pressure is fine, as long as the packets are SMALL. 4 grams of flower in a tight puck...great! 8 grams in a fat packet...not doing the job 100%

I was able to do an ounce in 10 minutes by preparing 20 packets of pre pucked flower in advance. with all the prep time...prolly an hour of work.
if I could figure out a quick puck maker, would be dandy.

with kief&bubble (as always) returns are HIGH and also...pressure requirements are lower.

Regading the dual conroller for temps. I was using different materials at times....like an Oil Slick pad on the bottom plate, but Oil Slick Wrap (the foil backed parchment) on top.
The independent temps was perfect for this...about 20 degrees of difference until i got the Squish I wanted.

Another think I REALLY enjoyed was doing some 20 minute presses on Kief at 160-180
was nice to be able to clamp, and go get high wile the ultra terpy fraction came off the keif.

For Mas production...need something more powerfull. but at the price (sub $500) I think there will be plenty of folks using this as a very high end hair straightener.

I was able to go from turning the thing on, to picking a few nugs up, pucking them , Squishing and gathering...all in the space of 5 minutes. Thats the demografic thats gonna love this thing.

Btw...I mentioned the hair straightener price parallel after speaking with a hair dresser friend of mine. She paid $250 EACH for her "GHD Professional" straighteners, and she has 3 of them!
 

whadeezlrg

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I speed post cause I'm constantly online researching whadeezlrg lol I started compiling single long posts as opposed to lots of singles as you requested. Mercy, have mercy on me.
I get it now, that's why after having that marinating for a while I felt like I should make it known that for some reason or another I was being slightly douche-ey about it all.. so please continue! thanks for all of your contributions to this thread man.
 

Sunfire

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Yeah that's what I was saying about the plate sizes. Everyone likes the huge plates but you arnt gonna get the pressure you want if it filled completely with material.
 

Gry

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One of the more enjoyable threads I have found here and Sunfire is a very major part of it. I hope that does not change at all.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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Btw...I mentioned the hair straightener price parallel after speaking with a hair dresser friend of mine. She paid $250 EACH for her "GHD Professional" straighteners, and she has 3 of them!

lol, very poor comparison, considering what one needs for HPO production is a 25$ conair or something equivalent, and a 25 $ quick grip.

and we are not hairdressers either :D
 

heady blunts

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great post ganja. I'm curious to hear a more detailed description of the 20 min press. taste, color, yield, etc! I still haven't pressed any sift or Kief but I could try replicating with flower....

I've been wondering what separates the ultra high end straighteners from the 20$ version. i have a feeling they have more ptc heaters and some kind of upgraded surface material/texture. would you ask your friend what in her opinion is the diff (not just in hair results, I'm sure the fancy ones don't crimp!)?
 
I agree with @hashmasta-kut, that's a silly comparison, as I'm sure those expensive straighteners don't magically give you 1klbs of pressure! I feel like to compare and contrast you will need to show that it is actually that much better than the HMkRosinPress to make anyone who is intelligent enough to do research spend 350$+ instead of 50~
 

cyphaman

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...yeah...I wonder if it's just going to be an eternal thing where no one actually reads this thread or the research in it and keep talking about glorified t shirt presses with extremely low pressure.

The 5x5" plates was their best idea yet but that design will only be able to hold a small amount of pressure. Even if you burrito tech at half size that's 12.5 square inches over very little pressure.lookong at it makes me think maybe you can lock it in for twice your body weight. Idk why they made the lever so short??? Should be like atleast a foot past the locking hinges, preferably more.

I've shared this before but I'll do it again...

http://www.sign-in-china.com/produc...l_t_shirt_heat_press_machine_with_drawer.html

this one has push button adjustable pressures up to 800kg for like 400$. I don't think the bottom plated is heated but thays really not a problem.if you use aluminum shims and preheat those really quick. Of you absolutely insist on burning terps and decarbing oils, atleast step up your pressure game.

The dnail design just shows they didn't do any research! Why the hell did they use a second controller for the bottom platen???? A multi loop controller with multiple ins and outs is like 4 dollars more. They failed to communicate with China and this is what they got cause they did none of their own independent research. If I told china I wanted both platens heated and they sent me a model with TWO controller boxes I would have freaked out!. That actually costs more to do it like that then paying the extra 4 dollars for one that control multiple zones.

Had I previously mentioned why I don't watch hash church anymore...? No disrespect intended of course. I would actually love to go on there and give a presentation with all my theories but I'm unfortunately not nearly cool enough, maybe one day...

lol Dnail units are overpriced ...<get any old shirt press for 200 bucks online like I did......if that's your end goal and youll be fine with heating the bottom plate with the top one in btw presses, lol but even with a better built press than Dnails I still broke a handle off mine once and am not getting very much pressure, its enough though.

Ive actually been going back to mine as so far its easier than fucking with those small plates on the pneumatic like rosin technoligies does, I still get same yields just much much more work especially since its set up at a friends place in a hot ass gararge. gonna get back to your reply from earlier ..cheers
 
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Hashmasta-Kut

honey oil addict
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great post ganja. I'm curious to hear a more detailed description of the 20 min press. taste, color, yield, etc! I still haven't pressed any sift or Kief but I could try replicating with flower....

I've been wondering what separates the ultra high end straighteners from the 20$ version. i have a feeling they have more ptc heaters and some kind of upgraded surface material/texture. would you ask your friend what in her opinion is the diff (not just in hair results, I'm sure the fancy ones don't crimp!)?


ask jules!


http://www.hairstraightenerstudio.com/
 

cyphaman

Member
I played with one of the D-PRESS units today...the small one based off a hat press, but with the second controller. My initial critique (after 8 hours of playing with flowers, sugar trim, kief & bubble):

This is a PERSONAL system, not something geared towards mass production.
The pressure is fine, as long as the packets are SMALL. 4 grams of flower in a tight puck...great! 8 grams in a fat packet...not doing the job 100%

I was able to do an ounce in 10 minutes by preparing 20 packets of pre pucked flower in advance. with all the prep time...prolly an hour of work.
if I could figure out a quick puck maker, would be dandy.

with kief&bubble (as always) returns are HIGH and also...pressure requirements are lower.

Regading the dual conroller for temps. I was using different materials at times....like an Oil Slick pad on the bottom plate, but Oil Slick Wrap (the foil backed parchment) on top.
The independent temps was perfect for this...about 20 degrees of difference until i got the Squish I wanted.

Another think I REALLY enjoyed was doing some 20 minute presses on Kief at 160-180
was nice to be able to clamp, and go get high wile the ultra terpy fraction came off the keif.

For Mas production...need something more powerfull. but at the price (sub $500) I think there will be plenty of folks using this as a very high end hair straightener.

I was able to go from turning the thing on, to picking a few nugs up, pucking them , Squishing and gathering...all in the space of 5 minutes. Thats the demografic thats gonna love this thing.

Btw...I mentioned the hair straightener price parallel after speaking with a hair dresser friend of mine. She paid $250 EACH for her "GHD Professional" straighteners, and she has 3 of them!

nice GangaPharma!

4 grams of flowers at once went well for you eh? Very cool...

I tried the puck technique on th epneumatic but found more contamination and also the spread was harder to control but for the shirt press tek I want to try this!

Ive been having my best results breaking the buds into small just above pea sized pellets and then just throw about 1.5 gs or 2 into the fold of my parchment and then do a gradient to pin point heat, starting by just dropping the weight on for 2-3 s then pressing for 3 or so, having to fold and re press a second time.

Maybe I need to try more utilizing the puck tek?

Are you filtering?

:biggrin:
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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unless your press wont allow it, snakes are better than round pucks. think about the crush pattern. a round thing crushes out exactly evenly round, and get round and larger. so the width of the puck is greater than if you make a snake of the same weight that is long and skinny. a smaller area compressing puck lends an easier spread to the extract. a wider puck doesnt allow it to leach as completely from the edge zone in particular.
 

slowandeasy

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first off, finding faults in previous techniques and technologies is HOW THEY PROGRESS. Lmfao seriously if everyone was fine with the steam engine, we wouldn't have jets now, would we?

But your right, those are all the best designs, ima just give up now.



I simply said that it was immature to rag on other peoples ideas. You are right, finding faults is how to progress. However, You seem to get off on pointing out the Faults...but that's just how some people are. I could point out faults in a ton of stuff that you claim....but mature people know when to shut their mouths. When you put your press in production please let everyone know, so they can point out all of your "stupid ideas". I would put money on it that it will never happen anyways.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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at least his input is about - how to make rosin, compared to yours - asking us how to do it, or whats its worth, so he does have one up on you there.
 

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