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If your going off what the iron claims s 180F at lowest level, I can tell you it's not accurate. I've watched way too many videos now to know that I wouldn't trust what Revlon or whoever says, and I also wouldn't trust an ir gun on metal surfaces.
I do like your concept of using human experience. Extracting will little audible sizzle is a good sign to go off of I say.
I've got the design concept dialed and am.currently tumbling fresh material. The next wave of experiments testing filter bundle size and pressure amounts will commence soon. I will get analytical of 4 different experiments and samples from the very beginning of the squeeze, and samples at the very end to compare decarb results. Including getting the material tested too, I'm looking at 9 samples. It will be expensive but will divulge much needed info.
I do like your concept of using human experience. Extracting will little audible sizzle is a good sign to go off of I say.
I've got the design concept dialed and am.currently tumbling fresh material. The next wave of experiments testing filter bundle size and pressure amounts will commence soon. I will get analytical of 4 different experiments and samples from the very beginning of the squeeze, and samples at the very end to compare decarb results. Including getting the material tested too, I'm looking at 9 samples. It will be expensive but will divulge much needed info.
GanjaPharma
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I think you are right about lower temps. But I don't know of any extraction method that will give you clear golden oil from old ganja.
I have an arbor press in the shop, and an induction hot plate. Gotta find some cast iron ingots . If you follow foundation extracts on ig...I think he is around 150f
I have an arbor press in the shop, and an induction hot plate. Gotta find some cast iron ingots . If you follow foundation extracts on ig...I think he is around 150f
YEah we do use an IR gun and know its not accurate, but it does give repeatable results on different things, this will show their relative difference in temps, and also which is coolest.
And yes the other part of human experience in this is that you can press at this temp for as long as you want it seems with no darkening of the extract. a very light golden oil derived from ogkush cross buds. i press for about 45 seconds as i feel a minute or longer doesnt seem to leach any more, but even if you do press another 30 seconds or whatever, the color is the same, so it kind of proves the temperature is ideal. I do have a higher temp press, that even when i do a 45 second press on a bud on the low temp one, with no sizzle, as soon as it goes in the other, which reads only 20F higher, it sizzles right away, and the whole time. The gun say the low temp one sits very close to 240F, the hotter one very close to 260, and it is supposed to be 265, so the gun is not too far off. in a t shirt press at 245F it darkens, but not in the little hair press style.
you need fresh buds for golden extract.
Foundation won't give me the time of day but I know one of his close friends and they have been relying on the ir gun and getting inconsistent results. When I shared my findings, especially from cls he said he also felt it was a poor gauge so he went and rented some flir vision equipment lol! Dedication! If you watch the product run on his videos I guarantee you its not 150, I tried 150 and I didn't do anything. I start at 250F assuming it's less by time the rig is loaded squished. With 1k psi I get a little sizzle. Can't wait to try 200F but you need some heat to carry the product away.
You need an ir gun that has adjustable emissivity to get accurate readings on reflective materials.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity
http://www.raytek.com/Raytek/en-r0/IREducation/Emissivity.htm
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity
http://www.raytek.com/Raytek/en-r0/IREducation/Emissivity.htm
So realistically how long until this process is commercialized? Months? Or are we talking a couple of years out? I am seriously considering pulling the trigger on a closed loop system, vacuum oven, etc., but god damn this style of extraction seems appealing both from a quality perspective, and a safety one as well... plus no need for an oven, right?
its going to be between 4-8 weeks or so till there are machines for sale. no oven or vacuum, or any purging needed.
How do you know that? What have you heard, due tell good sir!
Errlectric and Dnail already have containers in the water for their retarded modified shirt presses. It's pretty much just a shirt press with a bottom heated plate too. Should hit the shores in about a month but this might be their worse business decision ever because...
The owner of ape and the owner of aqualabs is working on a self heating plate, pneumatic press. With his tea bags, one will be able to pull it right out of the box, plug it in, and start pressing flowers, trim, or sift with the push of a button with way less decarb that most people are doing with hair Irons and everyone is doing with shirt presses. I have some ideas to fuse my now proprietary techniques with their technology to make a second generation model in the not near future. I think they are trying to get their design released by time Dnail and Errlectric release their overpriced shirt presses that will decarb the shit out of your product.
As I said my techniques and design are proprietary at the moment as I need to enact corporate defense so I don't get ripped off before I can release it. I'm crazy busy with indoor breeding and a greenhouse right now so I'm pissed I can't work too much on the rosin. I will tell you though that my design will be more labor intensive, but more economical. The production capabilities have the potential to be staggering however. I want to do the first publicly shared (cause you know there's got to be atleast one hermit somewhere that's already done it) 1 pound and 1 kilo press. There's a lot of work behind properly researched design. We are not trying to just get some crap.on the market with the only goal being to make money. We are passionate about quality! So I'm sorry bro you'll just have to be patient but id recommend holding off on a cls unless you want to mass produce cheap wax and have 20k to invest. Rosin and solventless molecular fractional distillation will take over the rest of the market. Super heady dry sift seems to be gathering popularity quickly as well. It will also be much safer then cls. I hated cls because it has a lot of contamination via viton leaching, metal shavings from brass nuts, paper filter and towel contamination, tank rust, and possible pump piston ring and seal contamination. My design will be entirely ss besides a paper filter for the material but no fear as there is a secondary filtration as well!
To give you an idea of the research, I'm currently.working on testing the decarb and return factors of filter bundle size, thickness, and shape, as well as another variable, different pressures. To do this, I have to fabricate a lot of parts to accommodate those two variables, which takes time and money. Then I will be spending atleast 500$ on analytical as I will have 9 samples to test from that experiment. I'm putting in a lot of work to make sure you don't have to buy a shitty product, then go buy a proper one. I guarantee you though, I am 100% involved in this whole.process, from seed to dab, I've got your back and can see every facet of this complex gem.
Yes, no need for ovens, recovery pumps, vacuum pumps, Chinese steel, tanks, hoses, bucket heaters, shit loads of ice or dry ice, none of that. My design however will to not have self heated plates to keep the cost down. So maybe you can get one of those adjustable guns, or a reliable digital.oven or kiln. I was going to talk with hfs or maybe even go to keda directly.to try and get good deals.on their digital convection ovens. You would only need one though. Well maybe two if your trying to rip out multiple pounds.per day
Lmao I just linked that to the ape man and he hit me right back with a pic of a VISUAL ir gun that has adjustable emmissivity!!! Omfg it's totally predator vison!!! So fucking cool.
hopefully you guys see how serious some of us are taking this. That was a very expensive investment strictly for the sake of trying to design a machine to make quality meds for yall.
Can we start getting pics NOT in the light as well? And some sort of gauge of thickness? Even the black looks good paper thin and in the sun.
Not trying to hate bro, or.single.you out. I'm asking this of everyone for the sake of science.
Either way.. what was it from, hoes it smell and taste? Time, temp, and techniques?
back-light from the sun does seem a bit overkill 
i was talking to aqua lab tech about the press release date. he didnt know for sure.
i was talking to aqua lab tech about the press release date. he didnt know for sure.
Anyone else using a freezer for cooling collecting tool off in to make things easier on the collection front ?
ya thats how i roll too sunfire.
It is a whole new experience working with rosin for me having never messed with bho. I use a room temp tool and as cold as it will stay rosin, it still gets all over...
You can always use the fold technique...
Fold and press warm, press firmly but dont spread or smear the product. Through it in the free for five minutes then quickly pull back one of the sides of parchment, pulling the edge towards the fold with a sharp bend. Hold onto the other side but keep it straight. It's a bit of a technique but easily mastered. Then warm and fold and repeat until you have it folded down to your preffered thickness and It's easily managed.
Fold and press warm, press firmly but dont spread or smear the product. Through it in the free for five minutes then quickly pull back one of the sides of parchment, pulling the edge towards the fold with a sharp bend. Hold onto the other side but keep it straight. It's a bit of a technique but easily mastered. Then warm and fold and repeat until you have it folded down to your preffered thickness and It's easily managed.
