New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[Ringodoggie]

What might be ideal is to have the plates mounted on springs or rubber so they come down unevenly and squeeze the rosin all in one direction, rather than even pressure that spreads it out all over.

Just a thought.

 

[Sunfire]

The problem with that is the product will be forced to exit from one side all the way over to the other. I think you want as quick as evacuation as possible which means even pressure causing a center outwards explosion.

I've been able to think mathmatically about the situation and I have come up with a basic proprietary equation I'd like to call the "decarb factor." There's still a lot of testing to turn this mathmatical hypothesis into a theory, but it's pretty basic and I feel it's solid and has helped to me to look at things differently. The decarb factor can be used to rate the efficiency of designs. It will show the balance between quality and quantity.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

damn...with the potency of this shit it may be more appropriately named ricintech

 

[Sunfire]

If it's giving you a really heavy stone that's long last lasting and makes you want to just munch and nap, then you have way too much decarb and thc-a. I personally prefer a little decarb. Made some rosin from LA confidential the other day. Omg it smells and tastes so good. Very cerebral for about an hour, then I feel sober for about 30 minutes, then all of a sudden I'm super body high and need to sprawl on the kitchen floor stuffing my face lmao! I think it's a good balance!

I can finally take big enough dabs now to get the full flavor on the back of my throat and the nose tickle, Omfg the LA is my favorite strain and it's sooooo damn tasty!

 

[Ringodoggie]

It doesn't seem like it would make much sense thinking about it but I wonder how IMPACT rather that FORCE would work?

The striking blow with a sledge hammer delivers an incredible amount of force in a very short time frame. A solid rod connected to the back of the pressure plate should give a nice strike point and would help distribute the impact more evenly than just striking the plate. Doesn't seem like it would work but this stuff is all over my walls already anyway. I might as well try. LOL

 

[Sunfire]

Lmfao! Sounds like you got nothing to lose. It for sure won't work though, at low temps it takes more time to extract. Which is why trying higher pressures might be nice, maybe it will extract faster.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

one thing i wanted to mention, the guy that has been doing the squashing for me said that on the last batch the wax was purple when he went to scrape it. it didnt show in the finished product but i thought it sounded interesting. anyone else notice any strange anomalies?

 

[Sunfire]

Wax? Your getting straight wax fresh out of the squeeze? Was it a purple strain? Is the hair iron purple lmao?

 

[billy_big_bud!]

i dont mean wax i mean goo. whatever the product is that comes out of the squish. yes the bud had a good amount of purple in it.

 

[whadeezlrg]

I've seen pics of purple rosin on IG made with some purple strain...it was beautiful, and probably tasted like straight candy...I've been trying to track down the original purple urkle for the last year or so, just for head stash...her flavor is sooo good, and very reminiscing for me.

 

[pugsly]

Would it be ok to make a farmers grade dry sift say 25% thc, and then process to rosin?
Or would it be better to work the sift to a higher percentage thc before processing?

 

[Sunfire]

I'd say experiment and tell us what you find. More plant material could mean darker color, or maybe more terps? Return will obviously be less though. Depends on how efficient your sift and rosin techs are. Which will be less work for you?

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Would it be ok to make a farmers grade dry sift say 25% thc, and then process to rosin?
Or would it be better to work the sift to a higher percentage thc before processing?

as far as i can tell, if one wants the best quality rosin from kif, you need the best quality kif possible. most people have reported lighter tastier extracts from flowers as opposed to kif, but one person says kif is better, but say it needs to be primo fresh kif.

 

[Sunfire]

Lmao look at tverzura on ig. He uses sift that is white and looks like sketchy drugs! His rosin is damn near clear. He extracts at 180F in a hair iron, with a 25u bubble screen then does a secondary filtration at 5u. His rosin is damn near clear!

 

[Sunfire]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=229395

Here you go billy, look at RulaTone ' s comment about decarb product turning purple before turning red/orange. Tell your homey to dial down the heat!

 

[GanjaPharma]

Figured I would post this here.

Been Squishing kief onto Oil Slick Pads using a bubble bag pressing screen.
Ran out of kief (alas!) and grabbed a jar of very very old, dry, herb from at least a year back.

Pressed into a ball

wrapped in a screen

pressed onto an Oil Slick

 

[GanjaPharma]

press #1 , 2, 3


Dab of Squish


barely any residue on the nail.

30% returns like this, much better than my first attempts with flowers. And the Oilslick Pad is easy for collection, also using a cold pack to speed things up.

 

[Terps]

Very nice!

 

[Sunfire]

30%! It may be old but it was good! I think if you did one longer press as opposed to 3 shorter ones you get less decarb from the warm and cool down time between each press. Just a theory though. Seems like analytical is starting to show that lower temp and longer time gives less decarb. Tverzura talks about this and posted his analytical results.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i fully agree, with my results. i do a very long press at temps that wont cause an audible sizzle for around 45 seconds with no darkening of the extract, it comes out extremely light, and the long time allows a fairly thorough extraction without cooking it. i dont see a way to do higher temperature extractions that would give great yield and very close to 0 product damage like this does. it seems to me that a key to large extraction technique is to have the extract leach away from the press zone for sure, you need a system where the rosin collects outside the press zone primarily for large volume, with a hair press and no more than about 1.5 gram chunks, it seems the bud thickness and the fact it isnt an incredibly powerful press method, leave room for the small amount of extract to be collected within the press zone mostly, but since its a small amount and if you do it cool enough, it doesnt seem to damage it.