you are assuming wrongly its a younger crowd thing. there are those of us ranging in age from around 45-75 in my area, who want the tastiest possible extracts to consume. it seems like a no brainer to me, why are we even talking about it?
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you are assuming wrongly its a younger crowd thing. there are those of us ranging in age from around 45-75 in my area, who want the tastiest possible extracts to consume. it seems like a no brainer to me, why are we even talking about it?
I have found that this is definitely true. The aggressive shaking tears the shit out of the trics. It's really the only down side I found so far.
I do have the option of the lower speed. And, that worked much better in pair with different screen sizes I tried. And, when I used this setup without the paint shaker (just shaking by hand) it produced a much better quality (albeit, less volume).
Still, it was very difficult to get full melt sift this way. I have jars of this and I have not tried static collection yet but I am hoping it will save some of this. I am also thinking it will be good for rosin pressing.
However, for efficiency, this method is excellent. When I toss the remains, there is NOTHING left but green matter. LOL
This efficiency makes it good for smaller growers who don't want to waste. After I do my ice water hash, I take the wet remains and dry/decarb it in the oven and put it in the shaker at high speed and it's amazing what I get out. It's not great quality but it's perfect for edibles, butter, oils and such. And, like I said, when I toss the remains, I know I tossed NOTHING good away. LOL I'm not cheap... just anal. LOL
Overall, like all things, this method has it's place.
But, you hit the nail on the head with the one down side.
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Good one Ringodoggie
Has anyone tried two clothes irons for rosining? To handle the pressure, I'd imagine that the irons be attached to the inside of a metal box and the resin or plant material could be pressed in between the two "boxes". This would be a cheap way to apply adjustable heat to two metal rosining surfaces...I think this would work.
Has anyone tried two clothes irons for rosining? To handle the pressure, I'd imagine that the irons be attached to the inside of a metal box and the resin or plant material could be pressed in between the two "boxes". This would be a cheap way to apply adjustable heat to two metal rosining surfaces...I think this would work.
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MrAwder
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Kicking around some idea for a DIY heated press.
PID controller: http://amzn.com/B00368D6JA
Heating elements: http://r.ebay.com/4ttiia
3/4 ton pneumatic arbor press: http://r.ebay.com/zYh8JP
My sketch is incorrectly labeled with 750# force, 3/4 ton would actually be 1500#.
Only fabrication would be the 1/2" SS plates. Wire up 3 100W PTC heaters, JB weld to the plates and hook them up to a controller for steady temps. Actually I suppose you would need to construct some sort of frame to hold the bottom plate as well.
Does anyone know about wiring up the PTC elements? Can they just be wired up in series to 110V plug? That is my current assumption.
Thoughts?
PID controller: http://amzn.com/B00368D6JA
Heating elements: http://r.ebay.com/4ttiia
3/4 ton pneumatic arbor press: http://r.ebay.com/zYh8JP
My sketch is incorrectly labeled with 750# force, 3/4 ton would actually be 1500#.
Only fabrication would be the 1/2" SS plates. Wire up 3 100W PTC heaters, JB weld to the plates and hook them up to a controller for steady temps. Actually I suppose you would need to construct some sort of frame to hold the bottom plate as well.
Does anyone know about wiring up the PTC elements? Can they just be wired up in series to 110V plug? That is my current assumption.
Thoughts?
I looked at a number of schematics for irons and it looks like the heated plates on an iron should pop off pretty easily and be adaptable to most presses. I thought of trying this but I have not made it to the store yet to pick up a couple irons.
EDIT:.... Hmmm? All the irons have holes in the heated plates. I can see that causing some problems...no?
EDIT:.... Hmmm? All the irons have holes in the heated plates. I can see that causing some problems...no?
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What you drew is exactly what I am doing now. I am changing out plates and revising some things but I should have mine working real soon.
As for the PTC...yep, just give it 110v power. Wire in parallel, not series. For mine, I used 3 of them and attached a simple lamp cord plug to each. I plugged all three into a surge protector and use that to turn them on and off. One of the mods I'm doing is to add an adjustable power circuit to control the temps.
Try looking for a 'dry iron'
Wow this thread just moved super fast, where to start...
I care about flavor most to be honost, I prefer a lighter up lifting high. The thing about the color Is that's the market. Personal consumption Is one thing but the uneducated people who think they know It all is another. You won't believe the shit people have told me about my own products that were dead wrong.
I think It want to start selling kits for freezer tumblers. You buy the kit and the freezer and assemble it yourself, will save on costs.
Lmao that would be such a waste of time and money if they made a pneumatic C press with tiny self heated plates. Lmao everyone It's racing to produce the first rosin press but none of them understand anything. I need more research material badly as I've come up with as lot of great design upgrades. I think I can do the 1 kilo press! No self heated plates though, this will keep the costs down and I'm working with one design that's just under 1k psi and another that will be just over 2k psi. I have no idea as of yet how to get plates made affordable that can handle that pressure. Plus, with plates that arnt self heated, the press will be expandable. Self heated plates locks you into that size and design.
so about sift...what about the fact that indica trich heads are bigger than Sativa and I at can vary from strain to strain?
I care about flavor most to be honost, I prefer a lighter up lifting high. The thing about the color Is that's the market. Personal consumption Is one thing but the uneducated people who think they know It all is another. You won't believe the shit people have told me about my own products that were dead wrong.
I think It want to start selling kits for freezer tumblers. You buy the kit and the freezer and assemble it yourself, will save on costs.
Lmao that would be such a waste of time and money if they made a pneumatic C press with tiny self heated plates. Lmao everyone It's racing to produce the first rosin press but none of them understand anything. I need more research material badly as I've come up with as lot of great design upgrades. I think I can do the 1 kilo press! No self heated plates though, this will keep the costs down and I'm working with one design that's just under 1k psi and another that will be just over 2k psi. I have no idea as of yet how to get plates made affordable that can handle that pressure. Plus, with plates that arnt self heated, the press will be expandable. Self heated plates locks you into that size and design.
so about sift...what about the fact that indica trich heads are bigger than Sativa and I at can vary from strain to strain?
youareaniceguy
Member
Johnny B also just posted an updated video on drysift rosin tech on his yout channel.
Great to see the evolving and communital support this gets
Speaking of community support, has Gray Wolf or any of the other Skunkpharm people commented on rosin or are they known to be doing any work with it. Would be interested to hear their opinions.
Lol when gw is making 50k-70k $ custom automated bho machines, they don't want us making affordable rosin presses. I think It can honestly rival the production of a large scale cls. With two people working 18 hour days, 5 pounds of wax per day can be had. With 1 person doing 1 kilo presses I know I could make 2.5 pounds of rosin per day, probably more. Still a lot of research needed doing but i bet can get the larger kit to your door for around 3k. Smaller one maybe half that.
Johnny B also just posted an updated video on drysift rosin tech on his yout channel.
Great to see the evolving and communital support this gets
Dude we are all mostly lazy stoners. Can you link us on the video plz, gracias!
MrAwder
Member
Yea I totally meant parallel. Figure I can just use wire nuts or maybe solder them up all to 1 plug which can then be plugged into the temp controller.
What do you mean by C press? I can understand for those who are strictly producing rosin... but it seems like an ideal solution for hobbyists and even small scale commercial growers. I imagine you could process a few ounces of rosin in a couple hours with a pneumatic press and smaller plates. Most of the time would be spent prepping screens/teabags/whatever.
youareaniceguy
Member
I don't think graywolf or skunkpharm are solely in it for the money, my impressions from their website and staments on this forum are that they want to help patients.
If somebody could message or get in touch with graywolf to comment on this it would be great to hear what he has to say. Not even necessarily looking for a heat press idea, just want to see what he/they say.
This is my impression as well. Graywolf has always been very open and sharing with information.
I think anyone that owns a closed loop system is just counting the days until their bad ass new system is obsolete...
I pressed out 2oz of og yesterday with a hair straightener yielded 9g, so not the best return but its fire, only one press. I've been saving all of my single pressed nugs for those times of low medicine...it was time consuming, having the ability to press at least an oz at one time would be nice, I've got some ideas I'm tossing around.
I pressed out 2oz of og yesterday with a hair straightener yielded 9g, so not the best return but its fire, only one press. I've been saving all of my single pressed nugs for those times of low medicine...it was time consuming, having the ability to press at least an oz at one time would be nice, I've got some ideas I'm tossing around.
For sure, Graywolf is a great guy. I like everything i have ever seen him post i think and value his inputs immensely.
However, he did pop in this thread, and has not posted in it for weeks or so. For sure many who are deeply entrenched in CLS systems, either bought, making or selling, are going to stick with the CLS and BHO at first at least. Later i imagine most will either; do both, or just stick with what they are doing, or switch over. Many will stick with the CLS for awhile, as they have a lot of time and possibly money invested in it. Not Graywolf perhaps, but probably to some degree, but he can speak for himself if he likes.
I predicted back on march 7th that the heat press extracts will take over pretty much,
eventually, and i am still sticking to it
There are too many pros to ignore. For one, there is no chemical re-arrangement of the constituents by a solvent. Also a few of obvious reasons i dont need to list, but primarily and most importantly in my opinion( i think others will say the purity and lack of solvents is their most important benefit), is that when made correctly , it is just as tasty or tastier than BHO, and also, its definitely a stronger better high.
A c press is the style of frame. I take that all back and agree that their design will be great for the boutique market and it will be easier to use and you can do flowers all day with it. I'm not sure my design will allow too much flower action but I have yet to experiment with it. Plus you will always sacrafice quality for quantity. My design won't be as simple as pressing a button.
Gw already commented on this at the beginning of this thread. He said it was a big hit like ten years ago but at the time the technique didn't allow for production at all. I think as cls advances were taking off, rosin got put on the back burner until now. My whole point of that comment was that no one is going to pay 10k-70k for a cls when for 3k-5k my design could probably match the productivity, and be safer, and not be looked at as a class 1 manufacturing charge in california.
I still have a lot of research to do and I'm not sure if my design will even work well for quality as I havnt been able to acquire any fresh material. Plz god Ffs deliver me an angel with wings made of full melt!!!
I talked with the owner of ape who is working on the self heated pneumatic press with aqualabs. He sounds like a really cool guy, we talked for 2.5 hours! Lmfao first time talking to some one ever, especially on the phone, and we bullshitted that long, that's a record for me! Anyways their design will be the headier boutique market, mine will be for mass production. I will not release my smaller less expensive design, there's will be much easier and simpler, maybe I can give him some ideas but I'm not trying to divulge too much at the moment.
Gw already commented on this at the beginning of this thread. He said it was a big hit like ten years ago but at the time the technique didn't allow for production at all. I think as cls advances were taking off, rosin got put on the back burner until now. My whole point of that comment was that no one is going to pay 10k-70k for a cls when for 3k-5k my design could probably match the productivity, and be safer, and not be looked at as a class 1 manufacturing charge in california.
I still have a lot of research to do and I'm not sure if my design will even work well for quality as I havnt been able to acquire any fresh material. Plz god Ffs deliver me an angel with wings made of full melt!!!
I talked with the owner of ape who is working on the self heated pneumatic press with aqualabs. He sounds like a really cool guy, we talked for 2.5 hours! Lmfao first time talking to some one ever, especially on the phone, and we bullshitted that long, that's a record for me! Anyways their design will be the headier boutique market, mine will be for mass production. I will not release my smaller less expensive design, there's will be much easier and simpler, maybe I can give him some ideas but I'm not trying to divulge too much at the moment.
