New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[Hashmasta-Kut]

just curious if this method can at all be used with shake? i have a decent supply of high quality shake that is burning a hole in my pocket...

if its high quality, i think you can press good stuff out of it pretty easily. first thing to do to test it with a hair press would be to make sure you have it nice and moist. moist enough you can roll up some tight rolls, small snakes around 1-1.5 grams of weight. those can be pressed in a hair press, and if its good shake you will get a decent yield of nice extract.

 

[blastfrompast]

if its high quality, i think you can press good stuff out of it pretty easily. first thing to do to test it with a hair press would be to make sure you have it nice and moist. moist enough you can roll up some tight rolls, small snakes around 1-1.5 grams of weight. those can be pressed in a hair press, and if its good shake you will get a decent yield of nice extract.

Bang on the money here...10-12% is what I have been getting..but the extract will be a couple shades darker...still lighter than my FINISHED BHO

You REALLY have to have your moisture pegged tho...

I use a piece of parchment to pre-roll my snakes when I want a quick 1/2g of rosin to dab, but I am working on a machine based on the classic ciggie roller case design for making the bigger trim snakes now for pressing.

I am trying to figure out a way to get the collection automated tho.

So far the only idea I have is to cool the parchment and figure out a SLIGHTLY warm SS roller design to run the parchment paper strips thru once the parchment and oil has cooled so it can just roll up Like I collect it now... Then cool the roller and it should just bust off, or I can keep it warm and scrape....

I think this is why I am going to have to abandon parchment and start looking in a new direction.. Collection is the problem...

Still even manually collecting it is faster to press rosin than spend 2 dayz blasting, vac purging etc.

 

[whadeezlrg]

the stuff I've been pressing from flowers is still very malleable even after sitting in the freezer for a bit...automating collection is the million dollar idea, but realistically manual collection is not that difficult, especially with larger amounts of oil.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

why would anyone even fuck with solvents at this point? rosin for president

 

[Limeygreen]

I like the idea of getting a clean dry sift with the automatic sifters, clean with electrostatic separation then if you find a way to run this clean resin through the screw press this might be a good way to give a pure rosin, I couldn't speak on the quality of the end product as I would be pleased enough with the clean resin, but you would also be able to run a separate machine to do the less pure heads left over is where I think the real benefit to recover the rosin from unpure resin with minimal effort while leaving the clean resin alone as that product itself. Talking about quality on this, I am wondering what type of loss of quality would you see, is it tolerable enough to justify the process? Even if it is a lesser quality but contains the right compounds it would still be great for edibles and topical medications.

 

[99%]

The biggest issue will be filtration. I'd like to experiment with 5 micron lab paper and see what's up.

How about a parchment paper or similar that has tiny perforations?

 

[Ringodoggie]

I like the idea of getting a clean dry sift with the automatic sifters, clean with electrostatic separation

If you are separating plant matter from cannabanoids using electrostatic separation, I sure would love to hear how.

 

[vitamingreeninc]

Apparently #teabagtek is where it's at

 

[99%]

If you are separating plant matter from cannabanoids using electrostatic separation, I sure would love to hear how.

Check out the Hashish forum.....basically the method quickly turns ok dry sift into 90% ~ 99% pure resin. Dry sifted resin is spread over a 200 lpi Mesh screen, a sheet of baking parchment wrapped around a CD case is scraped back in one direction only with almost pure trichomes attracted to one edge and contaminant on the other edge of the spine. This was first posted about on the Icmag Hashish forum, then later was posted on youtube by the same poster under a different name and now there's lots of static dry sift videos to see...check out D420K on youtube, he has a good how to video, so does Bubbleman and John Berfelo (also see "Bubbleman's World" on yt.)

 

[Ringodoggie]

Cool, I will check it out. Thanks

Now, back on topic.

I think this is the filter setup needed for cylinder pressing. The screen itself would break under 1000 pounds of force but using the metal piece with holes (or, slits might work better) the filter (whether stainless screen, poly screen, lab filter or coffee filter) would be well supported.

 

[Ringodoggie]

Sorry, still can't edit.

Does that look a lot like a shower drain to anyone? LMAO

Off to Home Depot.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

just tried some rosin. wow. you can really taste the lack of solvents. incredible.

 

[Sunfire]

I like the idea of getting a clean dry sift with the automatic sifters, clean with electrostatic separation then if you find a way to run this clean resin through the screw press this might be a good way to give a pure rosin, I couldn't speak on the quality of the end product as I would be pleased enough with the clean resin, but you would also be able to run a separate machine to do the less pure heads left over is where I think the real benefit to recover the rosin from unpure resin with minimal effort while leaving the clean resin alone as that product itself. Talking about quality on this, I am wondering what type of loss of quality would you see, is it tolerable enough to justify the process? Even if it is a lesser quality but contains the right compounds it would still be great for edibles and topical medications.

I would be very impressed if the filtration for a screw press allowed pressing sift. I got ahold of the homie in the bay. When we were first talking I mentioned the screw press vaguely and his immediate response was it "sounds limiting."

 

[Sunfire]

The biggest issue will be filtration. I'd like to experiment with 5 micron lab paper and see what's up.

How about a parchment paper or similar that has tiny perforations?

The parchment I'm using does bleed small amounts of product. But it's way too tight to allow proper bleeding of product. This is all theory on the filtration thing. It might turn out 25 micron yields more and has very little contamination, so little it's not a concern. Idk truly, needs testing.

 

[Sunfire]

Apparently #teabagtek is where it's at

Lol we were doing that decades ago in the locker room!

 

[Sunfire]

Check out the Hashish forum.....basically the method quickly turns ok dry sift into 90% ~ 99% pure resin. Dry sifted resin is spread over a 200 lpi Mesh screen, a sheet of baking parchment wrapped around a CD case is scraped back in one direction only with almost pure trichomes attracted to one edge and contaminant on the other edge of the spine. This was first posted about on the Icmag Hashish forum, then later was posted on youtube by the same poster under a different name and now there's lots of static dry sift videos to see...check out D420K on youtube, he has a good how to video, so does Bubbleman and John Berfelo (also see "Bubbleman's World" on yt.)

I favor designs of static where you don't have the positive and negative sides seperated and both exposed. A plastic tote lid over the top of your screens works great I've read. There's talk of just taking an old tube television and having your sift in two containers and pour the sift back and forth in front of the TV and the TV static will suck all the contaminants to it and the heads will fall into the container. I feel like high grade dry sift is awesome but a thing of the past as far as retail is concerned. Ester told me that's a trend he's noticing.

 

[Sunfire]

Cool, I will check it out. Thanks

Now, back on topic.

I think this is the filter setup needed for cylinder pressing. The screen itself would break under 1000 pounds of force but using the metal piece with holes (or, slits might work better) the filter (whether stainless screen, poly screen, lab filter or coffee filter) would be well supported.

the filter plate idea just won't work, especially when you want both sides heated.

 

[Sunfire]

just tried some rosin. wow. you can really taste the lack of solvents. incredible.

The residual solvent thing is a witch hunt. Do the math. At 500ppm, which is a lot, you have to smoke 4.4 pounds of oil to inhale 1 gram of butane.

I think the taste difference you are noticing is the insanely higher terpene profile which for me is the greatest thing about this technique.

There will always be a demand for cheap bho wax for the more frugal dabbers. The production level of a large cls that's ran properly is something I don't think rosin will ever be able to touch.one can easily rip out 5 pounds of wax in one long day of work if they got their shit dialed right.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

that may well be the case but the flavor profile is definitely different.

 

[whadeezlrg]

^^^I agree. a small contaminant can have an amplified flavor for sure..it doesn't have to be much ie: a missed seed in a fat joint, once that seed gets scorched I can't taste anything but seed... I know it's "different, but still same" the taste that I'm referring to isn't present in drysift or bubble either.

I could probably squish and collect over a lb of nug in a day just with a hair straightener and some good tunes, so not quite cls production but that's okay.