New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[Hashmasta-Kut]

another possibility is that even though almost all the butane is purged(which i dont think imparts much flavor), if its not purified butane, then any mystery oil may impart nasty flavor still, if it doesnt purge out. right near the beginning of my heat pressing, i had some material i ran with butane, and i told the guy i got it from that the weed must have neem on it or something, cuz it had a bad flavor. but then i started heat pressing it, and it all tasted really sweet, same OZ. this was just using canned "London" butane.

 

[Sunfire]

^^^I agree. a small contaminant can have an amplified flavor for sure..it doesn't have to be much ie: a missed seed in a fat joint, once that seed gets scorched I can't taste anything but seed... I know it's "different, but still same" the taste that I'm referring to isn't present in drysift or bubble either.

I could probably squish and collect over a lb of nug in a day just with a hair straightener and some good tunes, so not quite cls production but that's okay.

This is another problem I have with the screw press...I'll never squish beautiful flowers. Their retail value is way higher as is when you crunch the numbers unless you getting atleast 20 a gram for your rosin and that with very little.profit, mostly compensation for your time and the value of the material used. I'd want atleast 40 a gram.

I only want to press trim or sift made from trim. I do fresh frozen with the b nugs.

 

[Sunfire]

another possibility is that even though almost all the butane is purged(which i dont think imparts much flavor), if its not purified butane, then any mystery oil may impart nasty flavor still, if it doesnt purge out. right near the beginning of my heat pressing, i had some material i ran with butane, and i told the guy i got it from that the weed must have neem on it or something, cuz it had a bad flavor. but then i started heat pressing it, and it all tasted really sweet, same OZ. this was just using canned "London" butane.

Just take my word on it, I've distilled a lot of butane. If you knew the shit I've seen left over from cans you'd never smoke open blasted oil again, ever! Just don't do it!

 

[whadeezlrg]

the majority of bho that I consume is made by moxie extracts, they use very clean gas, and purge to perfection...the butane or other non-canna flavor is very subtle in their bho and honestly unnoticeable until I had something better to compare it to(rosin)

I've been breaking up tops and squishing em. for the sake of making the math easier lets say you get a 25% return on a lb so you end up with 114g of rosin. depending on many factors that lb of bud has a value of roughly 2-3k so we'll just call it 2500. to break even not including the labor spent in processing you'd be looking at $21.92/g. the market that I'm in has an approximate value of rosin at $40 WHOLESALE(which is in line with premium nug run bho) so 114g x $40 = $4560...That's a margin worth capitalizing on imho.

and rosin has quite literally made smoking flowers obsolete for me personally.

has anyone else noticed the lack of resin/reclaim in your rigs from dabbing only rosin? my rig has seen nothing but rosin over the last week or so, and it's much cleaner than it would be after a week of bho dabbing.

 

[EsterEssence]

Most of my friends want nothing but rosin now, and why not. We were never into any gas extraction, the flavor isn't there and who knows what is there. Making rosin from kief is very easy, actually easier than rubbing some parchment around on a screen to collect what is an inferior product to rosin. Rosin is harder to work with especially if you don't dab it. The only drawback to using kief is the end product is slightly darker flavorful but darker. If you have a lot of trim collecting the kief is a much more efficient than trying to rosin the trim, but we will see if folks accept slightly dark rosin. Who knows what the future is going to bring...

 

[Dready_jake]

Who knows...

 

[Sunfire]

Wow 2500 a pound! It's like half that here at harvest time. I rather not deal with further processing the nugs, lots of people still love flowers plus you got to diversify your inventory. May not be good to only have rosin.

Moxie is top end for sure. Where exactly are you on the west coast?

I'm still sticking with my numbers and ideas. Especially from moxie that stuff has to be atleast 20 ppm residual, probably a lot less, most likely not even detectable in the millionths. You have an extremely refined set of taste buds if you can taste residual in the moxie gear. I would still bet it's just that rosin has so many more terps.

 

[whadeezlrg]

I'm not saying squeeze the whole garden, but it may be worthwhile in the long run if the demand for the concentrates is there.

I'm in southern ca... we don't necessarily have the same glut of a harvest "season" down here as there is up north...mainly just steady indoor production. I was using those figures as a baseline for AAA indoor, which is what I've been squeezing. moxie has been running my trim for the last year and a half or so, and that's been my main headstash.

it could easily be the presence of more terps, but there is just something about bho, it could very well be a placebo taste in bho because I know what it was made with...I have no idea but I can taste the difference in bho, theres a more waxy kinda film that coats your mouth with big dabs, rosin not so much....like I said, I really didn't notice it too much until I started dabbing rosin and high grade fresh frozen bubble more regularly though.

 

[billy_big_bud!]

what is the general rule of thumb on return ratios?

 

[EsterEssence]

Silk purse from a sows ear, what you put in you get out...

 

[billy_big_bud!]

lol. please. not so specific.

 

[Croptober]

Not sure on all returns but I've pressed a gram of 120u and got .7 back and on lower quality hash and kief I've gotten anywhere from 15-40%. The better the quality the better return.

 

[Sunfire]

Lol your funny ester. It is like basic alchemy in that sense!

Billy you should just go back and look this thread at everyone's reported yields. There's too many variables to make any rules but maybe these 2; 20% from flowers is great. With lower grade kief however maybe 30%

 

[Sunfire]

Hmm crop you got some cloudy bits in there too? I'm going to figure out what's going on with the wax/nucleation. I saw more today, I swear it's from moisture! But might be abuse, not sure.

 

[Croptober]

Hmm crop you got some cloudy bits in there too? I'm going to figure out what's going on with the wax/nucleation. I saw more today, I swear it's from moisture! But might be abuse, not sure.

I think it's just that picture looks really clear in person. I let my hash dry for 5 days jarred it for a day and thought it might have some moisture left in it so I spread it out onto parchment and let it sit for 4 more days. Don't think it has to do with moisture but I could be wrong.

 

[Sunfire]

I hate the shirt press now. Such a pain to load and unload and takes more prep. Only thing it's good for is making little gram patties. There's so much about the design that isn't good for what we are doing. I'll skip the details, pm me if you want some tips to make your shirt press work.better.

 

[Ringodoggie]

Sunfire, you may have said it along the way and I missed it but.... how are you heating the plate that you press with?

 

[EsterEssence]

Sunfire you are on the right track, I told you to watch out for the packet falling in, it sucks the rosin right back up, you can repress it out though. I love it when that extra little pressure makes it sizzle and rosin is running.

 

[snake11]

Pneumatic presses are the way to go. Cuban grower and foundation extracts on ig are using them. It looks like they get very good yields with minimal effort.

 

[Ringodoggie]

Hey gang, I don't want to drag this thread off topic but I am having trouble finding a simple circuit diagram for the PTC thermistors I plan to use for heating elements.

I started a new thread here for it... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=6948048#post6948048

If anyone has a link to a simple circuit diagram for this, I sure would appreciate it.

OK, now back to our regularly scheduled program. LOL Thanks