New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[blastfrompast]

I can confirm what ester is saying about gravity when pressing sift. It pools, Make sure your fold is DOWN.

More interestingly is I successfully pressed trim last night.

But in order to get it to press right you have to pre-treat it I guess you could say. AND THE TRIM needs some moisture. Bone dry trim wouldnt work. It needs a certain percentage of moisture.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

well duh bro

of course it needs moisture. i posted tests, it shows where i had 10% moisture or so and got about 4% less yield than when i had close to 15% moisture. so just having moisture is one thing, but having lots is great.

 

[blastfrompast]

So for those who have pressed trim successfully, have you had any luck getting a lighter product like flowers produce. Every trim press so far has ended up being like a sift press color wise for me...ie Dark. Flavorful but dark..

Can't seem to get that light yellow/white extract like I can with flowers of course, but it is tasty and expected as much when I first started playing around with trim a couple weeks ago.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

well not sure about pressing trim, but i am sure that all bho trim i ever ran was always darker.

 

[99%]

Yes, I tried this. You need a screen. The holes just don't keep back the plant matter. My holes were about 1/64 and when it reached a certain temperature the pot would turn viscous and squeeze through the holes.

I have not tried this method using a screen yet but it is on my todo list.

Thanks for the reply,

(you've probably already thought of this) ..but, perhaps drill much smaller holes in the metal container, similar in size to the mesh openings?

 

[99%]

I can't wait to things get real ghetto with this tech...I'm thinking blow torches and trucks being backed over metal plates with shitty brickweed.

 

[cyat]

So for those who have pressed trim successfully, have you had any luck getting a lighter product like flowers produce. Every trim press so far has ended up being like a sift press color wise for me...ie Dark. Flavorful but dark..

Can't seem to get that light yellow/white extract like I can with flowers of course, but it is tasty and expected as much when I first started playing around with trim a couple weeks ago.

I press kief , the frostier strains give a more yellow rosin, good smelling white/yellow kief makes the best rosin, old( bad smelling) stuff makes crappy tasting rosin

the white ,and sour bubble made the best rosin for me

 

[ApolloAK]

So far I have tried pressing both flowers and sift. Tried a gram each time and literally had nothing left on the paper when I was done pressing. Not sure what I'm doing wrong...

 

[ApolloAK]

The bud smelled like it had been vapes too

 

[whadeezlrg]

one of(or a combination of)these things happened to you: i'd say in order of likelihood.

too much heat(likely w/ vaporized smell)
too dry of flower
not enough pressure(you really got give it all you got, I'm like 275lbs and I put all my weight into the press
low quality parchment paper sucked up your oil...Reynolds or superior is a must.
and lastly and least likely- the nug you're pressing just may not be of high enough quality

 

[ApolloAK]

one of(or a combination of)these things happened to you: i'd say in order of likelihood.

too much heat(likely w/ vaporized smell)
too dry of flower
not enough pressure(you really got give it all you got, I'm like 275lbs and I put all my weight into the press
low quality parchment paper sucked up your oil...Reynolds or superior is a must.
and lastly and least likely- the nug you're pressing just may not be of high enough quality

Switched out the hair iron for a regular iron and added steam and I was able to get it to work. Now I just need to find a damn torch so I can actually take a dab, all I've got is a bunch of bic's laying around

 

[whadeezlrg]

smokeless hookah coals are a torchless dabbers best friend get the coal going and drop your globs onto the coal, I use to use a vaporizer whip to draw up the vapor coming off of the coal, but anything like that would work just as well.

 

[ApolloAK]

smokeless hookah coals are a torchless dabbers best friend get the coal going and drop your globs onto the coal, I use to use a vaporizer whip to draw up the vapor coming off of the coal, but anything like that would work just as well.

No smoke shops in my area
I noticed the little bit of rosin I made from the sift had a lot of green color to it, but the stuff I made from flowers looked like some nice orange snap and pull.

 

[whadeezlrg]

ahhh...AK...as in Alaska, I see now...I guess I take many conveniences for granted. maybe old school hot knives on the stove top? lol

 

[Sunfire]

From that picture it looks like the rosin went UP, not Down.

I just don't believe that gravity has anything to do with it. The rosin is going to flow the direction of the plates when they are squeezed together. The slightest variance in plates would push the rosin one direction or another regardless of gravity. Yes??

Does the rosin actually run and drip when you do it? Or, does it just squeeze out to the edges?

The product runs down, away from the heat, and collects in the paper which is outside the press and free of heat. I'm getting mad terp preservation and a nice clear soft shatter.

 

[Sunfire]

No smoke shops in my area
I noticed the little bit of rosin I made from the sift had a lot of green color to it, but the stuff I made from flowers looked like some nice orange snap and pull.

I've said this before, I'll say it again, and I intend on doing experiments to test it...

From my decade plus experience of making all kinds of extracts, the more molested the material is the darker the yield will be. A fresh, moist flower is not only unmolested but I believe also acts as a filter to keep the longer chained constituents and chlorophyll from leaking out. The micro amounts of plant material and capitate stalks in the kief that are mascerated on a micro level.will leach lots of undesirables. I forget who it was but someone posted a pic on this thread of rosin from their high grade dry sift and the shit was clear! That's all I need to see, I will experiment with this concept. Of course freshness of the material and how mature it was when harvested will also play a factor in color.

I'm ordering 15,10, and 5 micro ss mesh to also aid in these experiments. A coffee filter is 15-20 micron and I feel that isn't tight enough because I'm noticing a good bit of char on the nail. Anyone else noticing this? I've never actually done a dab with a nail and dome before yesterday, ever, but I've seen it done thousands of time and the rosin is leaving behind lots more char than any bho.

Which leads me to share my "first dab" experience at 29 years of age! Glass shop is out of order right now so I got a little dab bong from a fellow artist. Omfg took way too big of a pull at first! Was insanely high! Flavor was good. I'm not sure if I like it more than the vape pen though. Seems like a lot of waste with the torch and all, still fun though! Need to find a good deal on an enail online.

 

[xavier7995]

How strong can the sheet of SS mesh be? seems like pushing through a screen and then scraping would be ideal if the screen could take the pressure and be of a fine enough grade to keep out the unwanted materials. I can't seem to figure out a way that you could direct the oil flow beyond using a large amount of surface area and just pushing down through something. Scraping away the left over plant material and the oil would be pretty easy at that point since there would be a clear barrier. Basically a heated version of those oldschool orange juice juicers with the lever, the screen seperating the pulp and seeds from the juice. Just add a bit of heat to get it all flowing. Use a fairly thin layer of product at a time to press, but have it be a wide total surface area.

 

[Ringodoggie]

I don't think there is any screen that will take the kind of pressure we need. I used to sell stainless screen for "knife-proof" door screens and it took a very large and thick screen wire to resists that much force.

What I believe needs to be done to make this concept work is to have tiny holes or slots in the bottom of the press that the screen can sit on for support.

 

[EsterEssence]

Sunfire, I am getting no char or ash. My first dab i was 60, actually i don't care for dabs that much. I notice if i don't tighten the top of my little packets i can get some kief bubbling out the top and that does contaminate the rosin. I have also noticed doing the longer single press that i have to tighten the vice as the kief warms up and starts to compress, then it really bubbles and drips. I am soaking my screens in alcohol to clean them and the alc is red...

 

[Sunfire]

Yeah a morning dab ruined my entire day yesterday. Saving that shit for the night time. I think I just prefer sipping on the pen for now but the dabs got my tolerance up quickly hehehe. I was experimenting and I think my tiny glass nail just cools really quickly and isn't vapong everything.

so breeder steve seems to be ignoring me now. Oh well best of luck to him. It'd be sweet if he figured out some way to get those presses to use a super tight micron screen. Time will tell I guess.