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So I picked up another hair straightener, adjustable heat with curved sides for pressing some flowers.
Took my old one apart to mount the heating pads to an old vice clamp I kicking around... Highly reccomend it for small batches of sift around 2-3 grams.... No more stepping on the POS..lol
I am going to canabalize my new adjustable one for a scissor jack appartatus I have been playing with (in combo with an impact gun to speed up the press and unpress time)...
Took my old one apart to mount the heating pads to an old vice clamp I kicking around... Highly reccomend it for small batches of sift around 2-3 grams.... No more stepping on the POS..lol
I am going to canabalize my new adjustable one for a scissor jack appartatus I have been playing with (in combo with an impact gun to speed up the press and unpress time)...
Just had a conv with someone who knows a thing or 2 about juicing..
Would a 2000psi be enough to warm the puck thru pressure to make the extract flow...
Any guesses?
Would a 2000psi be enough to warm the puck thru pressure to make the extract flow...
Any guesses?
No, i put 15 tons of pressure, with plates at 70* and all it did is blow the screen and parchment. Not a drop of juice...
that temperature with no effect indicates not enough pressure to me, as i am pressing stuff in my hair press between 235-250 and getting great results.
I have tried the hair straightener.... That's never going get the pressure we need. I was not real happy with the shirt press, either. A nicer platform and bigger area but still bot the pressure I wanted.
I simply took 2 steel plates and placed them in my vise. I heated the plates to about 250F with a heat gun and placed the parchment in between and I was getting very nice, clear honey but the returns were less than 10%. Totally unacceptable. I switched to an arbor press and I liked the ease of use but returns were not much better.
Today, I bought a slip roller. Initial test results were not great but there is always a learning curve so I expect better results tomorrow.
My method with the roller, rather than the press it in hopes of pushing the rosin to the end and then, backing off. This will squeegie the rosin to the end of the run and puddle it there for easy collection (I am hoping).
Initial tests had some problem with slippage but pressing the buds slightly before hand help overcome that.
Sorry, I have not posted earlier. Been doing this for a while and couldn't get my registration to go through.
Awesome stuff. Best tasting extraction I have found yet. Works great in a nectar straw.
Thanks for all the knowledge ICM, glad to finally be a member.
I simply took 2 steel plates and placed them in my vise. I heated the plates to about 250F with a heat gun and placed the parchment in between and I was getting very nice, clear honey but the returns were less than 10%. Totally unacceptable. I switched to an arbor press and I liked the ease of use but returns were not much better.
Today, I bought a slip roller. Initial test results were not great but there is always a learning curve so I expect better results tomorrow.
My method with the roller, rather than the press it in hopes of pushing the rosin to the end and then, backing off. This will squeegie the rosin to the end of the run and puddle it there for easy collection (I am hoping).
Initial tests had some problem with slippage but pressing the buds slightly before hand help overcome that.
Sorry, I have not posted earlier. Been doing this for a while and couldn't get my registration to go through.
Awesome stuff. Best tasting extraction I have found yet. Works great in a nectar straw.
Thanks for all the knowledge ICM, glad to finally be a member.
Oops, forgot to post the pic. Am I missing something or is "edit post" disabled?
Not possible to see the Pictures .....
You might need more posts before you can edit
thats not true. I have gotten 20% yield using a hair press. I have a tshirt press and some hair presses, and i get the best quality and best yield with the hairpress, and as i mentioned, i get good yield under 250F, kind of proves i have enough pressure, that with the 20%.
My beef with it is its only one nug at a time, at max about .3-.5
at .3 size you can get a very good yield.
Wow, that's amazing. I got about 7% with the hair press. Not sure if it's the difference in our hair presses, or in our technique. Probably technique. I suppose your pot could be that much better than mine. LOL I get about 25% return from ice water hash.
If I could get 20% or better out of this rosintech method, I would never buy another can of butane or bottle of Everclear. LOL I still love ice water hash, properly rolled and cured but I never cared for the concept of tane blasting or alcohol (ISO or QWET).
I am going to experiment with this roller method a little while longer and see if I can get any good results. If not, I have a buddy milling a set of stainless plates with coil heaters to mount to my arbor press. I think regulated heat is as important as proper pressure. If I am to achieve any conclusive results, I will definitely need to have the ability to fine tune the heat. And, I want to measure the pressure as well.
One thing I have not seen experimented in detail is the RH of the buds before smashing. I ordered a nice assortment of Boveda packs and will be trying all the different RH's once I get my technique dialed in. Right now, I am doing it all from buds right out of a 62% RH jar just to be consistent. I did dry some to crispy and tried but the results were not nearly as good so I stuck with the 62% for now.
Thanks again for all the information you all share. I wish we had the internet a half a century ago when I started smoking pot. LOL Sure would have been nice to have been smoking honey like this instead of Hex Mex brick weed the past 50 years. LMAO
Definately a difference when it comes to hair presses.
A tip for those doing small batches of flowers, using a capped extruder to produce compressed pucks before is working well for flowers for me vs squishing them into balls and pressing.... I noticed that an even puck presses nicer due to the edges being the same density as the center and I don't loose hardly any extract around the outer edges of the used flower puck when im done....
I was strictly pressing sift before, but I am digging the flowers.
20% yield in small batches with my WW, slightly less with the grape ape.
I found larf works rather well in the press also, if I puck it first.
A tip for those doing small batches of flowers, using a capped extruder to produce compressed pucks before is working well for flowers for me vs squishing them into balls and pressing.... I noticed that an even puck presses nicer due to the edges being the same density as the center and I don't loose hardly any extract around the outer edges of the used flower puck when im done....
I was strictly pressing sift before, but I am digging the flowers.
20% yield in small batches with my WW, slightly less with the grape ape.
I found larf works rather well in the press also, if I puck it first.
I think you need moisture in the flowers so the dry flower doesn't soak up all the rosin, at least that's what my brain and few experiments have lead me to believe.
I'm also thinking higher temps and less time are going to yield a harder more shattery product as that's what I have also noticed when I looked over all the samples last night.
I also discovered when I popped the product off the parchment the back side that was still on the paper had mad smell. Maybe leave your product squished until it's ready for consumption.
I think you need 50 posts to edit and pm. You should try to get those posts up.
I'm also thinking higher temps and less time are going to yield a harder more shattery product as that's what I have also noticed when I looked over all the samples last night.
I also discovered when I popped the product off the parchment the back side that was still on the paper had mad smell. Maybe leave your product squished until it's ready for consumption.
I think you need 50 posts to edit and pm. You should try to get those posts up.
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Pressed some real fresh uncured Critical Kush. Yield wasn't amazing but the rosin was. Some of the strongest concentrate I've ever dabbed, not the best tasting though I think one of my presses might have been a little too hot or too long or both.
Also with the right material I've been getting 20% no problem with a hair straightener.
Also with the right material I've been getting 20% no problem with a hair straightener.
I just ran another test using pucks and my return was the same. About 7%. This sux. LMAO Why can you guys do it and not me? LOL I'll get this figured. Anyone ever actually measure the pressure used?
Sorry for the double post. Still can't edit.
I seem to be getting decent foot prints. Not as good as some but, not too bad. Not sure why the yield isn't adding up. I did run these a tiny bit hotter and longer than I usually do. It was just a tiny bit dark.
I do go through and pick out those little pieces of debris before collecting. I am going to try a SS screen in a minute.
I seem to be getting decent foot prints. Not as good as some but, not too bad. Not sure why the yield isn't adding up. I did run these a tiny bit hotter and longer than I usually do. It was just a tiny bit dark.
I do go through and pick out those little pieces of debris before collecting. I am going to try a SS screen in a minute.
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if you are just trying one strain it may only put out 7% no matter what. i have tested yield on three strains. ones gives just over 10%, one gives around 14.5%, and the other gets very close to 20%.
