I saw a few comments mentioning he is doing it at 150F, but couldn't find any with him saying that publicly. He said he is pre-heating his plates, but has coils that are currently in the machine shop being tuned.
-
As of today ICMag has his own Discord server. In this Discord server you can chat, talk with eachother, listen to music, share stories and pictures...and much more. Join now and let's grow together! Join ICMag Discord here! More details in this thread here: here.
I saw a few comments mentioning he is doing it at 150F, but couldn't find any with him saying that publicly. He said he is pre-heating his plates, but has coils that are currently in the machine shop being tuned.
Just read the whole thread. Very excited about this. I was wondering what's the best uncoated parchment or other type of paper to use that will work for rosin. I have extremely bad asthma and can't afford to smoke anything that isn't just cannabis. I don't want to use anything that's coated. Thanks for all the great info.
no, but some have claimed to use coffee filters and it works. there is brown unbleached and chlorine free coffee filters. patapar is expensive to canada, so i got some regency on order.
Coffee filters would be used for the tea bag, not to collect product on.
Could maybe modify a 16x24 shirt press to get more pressure on it, thought of that.
The press the guy on instagram is using is weird. It moves too fast, you would need need a turboflow pump to move hydraulic fluid that fast and those take like a 100hp diesel engine to turn. Also that copper pipe on the side isn't hydraulic either, hydraulic hose would be used. Plus the sound it makes is weird too. I'm thinking it's pneumatic. I'm doubting it's that high pressure as how we have already learned at 15 ton the parchment and screen blows out.
Could maybe modify a 16x24 shirt press to get more pressure on it, thought of that.
The press the guy on instagram is using is weird. It moves too fast, you would need need a turboflow pump to move hydraulic fluid that fast and those take like a 100hp diesel engine to turn. Also that copper pipe on the side isn't hydraulic either, hydraulic hose would be used. Plus the sound it makes is weird too. I'm thinking it's pneumatic. I'm doubting it's that high pressure as how we have already learned at 15 ton the parchment and screen blows out.
They make some small 1 - 2 ton pneumatic presses for punching out sheet metal, but I don't know how well that would work as I don't know how long they can apply force.
I mentioned before they also have pneumatic assist hydraulic presses that bring the punch close enough with air pressure and you apply the rest of the force with the manual handle, but not sure what is being used here.
I mentioned before they also have pneumatic assist hydraulic presses that bring the punch close enough with air pressure and you apply the rest of the force with the manual handle, but not sure what is being used here.
To me it is a dance between heat and pressure and TIME...Dial it in boys and girls...
Lots of ways to skin a cat also there are lots of ways to apply pressure and heat.
Lots of ways to skin a cat also there are lots of ways to apply pressure and heat.
interesting. i have seen fairly locally, an older model, but new pneumatic heat press machine for 180$. might have to check it out more thoroughly.
HashoftheTitans
Member
I got some small results at 125f using vice grips and my vac oven. I was just curious to see if dropping boiling points would allow the use of less heat. Was thinking of using steel pucks and an induction cooktop in a vac chamber to introduce localized heat. I just don't have the time and thought one of you bright minds might like to give it a try.
Has any one tried sacks of kief with the t shirt press? I find that i get a much better yield doing the vertical, with a catch trench below where the vice is in contact with the hair iron and kief pack. The heat with the parchment is a little troubling, but the paper is subjected to the heat only for a few seconds. Doing it without parchment or a substitute is not an option cause it will just burn on the plate, maybe lower temp with a longer press.
I discussed this with a friend off forum about the same thing but my deductive reasoning leads me to believe a vacuum would be anti productive. Yes it will lower the boiling points but It is fighting the pressure by pulling the molecules away from each other thus resisting the pressure you need. It will also Mae the terps burn off your product as It runs away from the heat and pressure and cools.
I plan on making pre Pressed kief patties trying to skip the need for a screen or bag altogether.
I have though about the heat with plates too. My plan was to go for about 150F as thc start to vaporize in atmosphere at 160F? If it could be done at 120F with more pressure and time that'd be swell because that's the point where terps start to vaporize at atmosphere, I think?
I theorize 115F would be great. I'm too lazy to look up the charts. Terps start to vaporize at 120F at atmospheric pressure right?
i was thinking actually pressure might be #1, and then thought it was hard to really pick one as most important. cuz if you have it hot enough, but not enough pressure you get nothing really. you can go lower temp and lots of pressure and succeed..
Here is a pic of a pressed piece of hash I did without a screen, it just blobbed all over the parchment...
Attachments
How hard did you press it? And at what temp?
I was going to set the press at 110F and squish the shit out of it. I think some one previously on this thread they did it successfully but can't remember.
I'm going to try it anyways. If we both have the same result then we only need one more person to make a scientific theory.
I was going to set the press at 110F and squish the shit out of it. I think some one previously on this thread they did it successfully but can't remember.
I'm going to try it anyways. If we both have the same result then we only need one more person to make a scientific theory.
It was pressed full melt dry sift, it presses really easily about 250* with an iron. good luck...
Bouldorado
Member
might've been me... I posted this a while back:
Worked well with that particular batch of bubble but most of the other hash I've pressed sans screen ends up looking like EsterEssences pic.
I once laid my pressing screen on top of my satellite TV receiver box full of nice fresh bubble hash made from fresh frozen material, probably some of my greasiest bubble to date to dry a bit quicker. the electronics in the box keep the things warm to the touch but not even close to what a person would consider hot, after about a day or two sitting on the box I picked up the pressing screen to notice a beautiful sap had oozed from my bubble patties through the pressing screen and had actually dripped down into the electronics, there was no way to recover all of that sap, so I then placed the pressing screen on a glass table for another day or 2, when I picked it up there was another puddle of beautiful sap that had oozed through the pressing screen. I collected that sap, and dabbed it; it was quite literally the absolute best dab that I have ever taken...the only problem was there was only about 2 dabs worth after draining probably over a gram into my satellite box.
that was about 4 years ago, and although I haven't made much bubble since then I haven't tried to replicate those results.
this rosin technique reminds me of that sap, although my limited experience with rosin has produced a tasty albeit less tasty version of that sap/ooze
I've got a lot of work to do if I want to refine that ooze tech I suppose lol
has anyone thought of heating some thick arbor plates in an oven and then pressing between two heated plates? I know harbor freight has a hydraulic shop press for pretty cheap
that was about 4 years ago, and although I haven't made much bubble since then I haven't tried to replicate those results.
this rosin technique reminds me of that sap, although my limited experience with rosin has produced a tasty albeit less tasty version of that sap/ooze
I've got a lot of work to do if I want to refine that ooze tech I suppose lol
has anyone thought of heating some thick arbor plates in an oven and then pressing between two heated plates? I know harbor freight has a hydraulic shop press for pretty cheap
9
99%
Here is a pic of a pressed piece of hash I did without a screen, it just blobbed all over the parchment...
for rosining hash without a mesh perhaps you could try placing the hash inside a circle of plant material or in between two very thin cakes of bud?
and I haven't read all the posts in this thread, so apologies in advance if this has been suggested...but if you don't have access to a hair iron or hair straightener then you can use a regular clothes iron (or two irons)...with one iron you could pre-heat a flat metal surface then place the bud (inside culinary parchment paper) on the heated surface then apply pressure with the iron.
If you don't have parchment paper or other types of non-stick heat resistant material then don't try using aluminum foil instead as it works, but it's impossible (or at least it was for me when I tried just once) to take off the rosin from the foil, so I rolled the foil into a cig shape, waved a flame under it and inhaled the vapor which got me high.
..you can take a man out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the man.
for rosining hash without a mesh perhaps you could try placing the hash inside a circle of plant material or in between two very thin cakes of bud?
and I haven't read all the posts in this thread, so apologies in advance if this has been suggested...but if you don't have access to a hair iron or hair straightener then you can use a regular clothes iron (or two irons)...with one iron you could pre-heat a flat metal surface then place the bud (inside culinary parchment paper) on the heated surface then apply pressure with the iron.
If you don't have parchment paper or other types of non-stick heat resistant material then don't try using aluminum foil instead as it works, but it's impossible (or at least it was for me when I tried just once) to take off the rosin from the foil, so I rolled the foil into a cig shape, waved a flame under it and inhaled the vapor which got me high.
..you can take a man out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the man.
