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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
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Biodynamic or not at all, I want to taste that horn.




20+% cultivars are an easy single press at 94-100C 700PSI.

10-12% I tend to cream at 94C 700PSI, then repress at 104C 1000+.

Bubble and sift have varied on melt. I haven't pressed much, sometimes it flows easy, sometimes I jack the pressure and heat up to 100C 1000+PSI.

Would be a bit different if I wasn't splitting the yield and instead chased quality. I try to find a middle ground during the range of test presses, material amount permitting.

Lookit that dual measurement system go. Where would we be without indecisive democratic governing.
 
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Gr33nSanta

we are all on the same page here. I dont know any grower that I d smoke their weed. But I dont know many growers... Ive been smoking strictly my weed for years.

do you guys have a special room for drysift? Ive given up on it because my house is between 50-55% RH pretty much year round, that s why I ve decided to focus on bubble hash.
 
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Gr33nSanta

My sift room is under 40* and under 50rh.

so you sift in a walk in refrigerator? Thats the other problem for me always way too hot in my home for dry sifting.

I think the more realistic option for me will be to buy a freeze dryer down the road. I know that a lot of terpenes are lost in water no matter what but I think I could try to find strains that keep the smells and flavors, was it bubbleman saying that watermelon was one of the first strain he washed that smelled like the buds?

any of you have any experience with strains that dont lose too much terpenes in the water?
 

EsterEssence

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My room is my garage, I live in a place that is dry, and cold in the morning...Folks want me to make a walk in freezer but I haven't done it yet...
 

ReikoX

Knight of the BlackSvn
EE, do you tumble then press the farmer's grade, or do you sift out the heads first and then press the remainder?
 

P-NUT

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How long do you tumble trim overall? I squeeze 10 min separate and its lighter but I tumble 12-24 hrs and get a shitload of kief. Using a 25 or 70 micron screen cleans it up good. Its always hot and humid where I'm at I just tumble in a room with a window unit on its lowest setting.
 

MedResearcher

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My tumbler fits in my deep freezer. I tumbled inside the freezer for years. Just this last season I took it out of the freezer to tumble. I freeze the material, then tumble it for 15 minutes.


Tumbling in the freezer, kept the screen cleaner longer since nothing is really sticky. I thought I was getting higher quality at the time, but now I am not sure. My theory is the material is so frozen that not only is the resin brittle but the leaves are as well. So I think it was actually getting more leaf material through the screen. Only my current theory, could be wrong! :p


Forget what size my screen is, but I can get a good farmers grade with 1 tumble. Nothing to fancy. Last kief press came out to about a 65-70% return at 210 F. Was shattery, then buddered up a bit with some time. Could see the budder swirled around through the shatter. I don't like the marble look myself, but was told that some people enjoyed it.


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The Hermit

Member
Hi,
great thread here, far too much to read through all in one session, this may take some time!

I have a question, I need to upgrade from my hair straightener tech: Is anyone in Europe producing and selling aluminium or steel plates with heaters and controller?

I really like the spring-return cage designs because i they look far easier to heat-insulate from the ram, but can't find anything like that over here. It seems europe is about a year behind with it's tech.

So far the only things I've found have been the Dabinator/Rosinator from Germany which looks to be good quality, but at €700 for 12x8cm steel plates (roughly 5x3"), or €1200 with coil heaters and controllers it's pretty expensive.

Then in the uk there's the squishit low temp (US made) aluminium 5x3" plates, cartridge heaters and dual controller (looks very chinese quality) for around 400 quid. A third of the price for essentially the same thing.

If it's a choice between these two I know I'll go with the cheaper option but I'd love to know if there's anything else around. Or I may just order something from the US or Canada and swallow the shipping, import duty and taxes. I'd rather not though.

Thanks in advance, happy squishing!
 

EsterEssence

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So I have been doing some squishing, put a 8 ton jack on my press and with the extra pressure I have to be careful of blowouts, there is a better yield with more pressure but a fine line before the puck sack shits itself...
 

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
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Very very slow. I usually make it to the 60-90 second mark ramping up to 1000+ PSI.
 

brown_thumb

Active member
If 1000 PSI is sufficient then wouldn't a good vulcanizer with dual heated plates work well enough?

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brown_thumb

Active member
My first experiments were using a vulcanizer and it worked great.

I'm supposing so (and hoping for) a similar result. Heck, if people are getting 'okay' results with hair straighteners and squeezing with only hand pressure, a vulcanizer must be a fairly decent option. However, most people are stating that 8 tons is minimal and 20 tons is better. I'm an ignorant newb but that just seems excessive to me... but I dunno. :dunno:

If I get 95 percent of the good stuff using a machine that only cost me US$124 delivered to my door then I'm happy enough.
 

brown_thumb

Active member
The image I posted isn't the one I bought. I bought mine used from one of those online classified ads sites. They only wanted $50 for it but the shipping cost another $74. I asked if they would ship it and they agreed... it never hurts to ask. Mine isn't pretty but it's fully functional. Yes, a new one costs $500-1000 or more.
 
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