New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[packerfan79]

Just got my rosin setup running. 10 ton hydraulic press and 3x5 plates.

So far not having much luck with yields. Only pressing small amounts (2g flower at a time). I tried a bunch of different techniques. Squishing an untouched bud, breaking up and pre-pressing pucks of flower. Different temperatures, pressures and pressing times.

The best yield I was able to get was about 3%, which is not ideal lol.

I see a lot of people are having success with using micron bags, but I am not sure if it's really going to make a dramatic difference.

I think the main issues may be the age/dryness of my flower (on a 1-10 scale of sticky to bone dry it's probably a 7.5). Also I am using unbleached (brown) parchment paper. I also see a lot of people prefer the more white, shiny silicone treated parchment paper. There seems to be a lot of oil soaking into the parchment on my presses.

Any tips for my circumstances?

Also, where is the best place to get 90 or 100 micron rosin bags and not pay close to $1/bag. That seems really expensive for a non-reusabe bag.

Thanks!

I get my rosin bags from rosin bags from rosin industries, 60 bucks for 100 bags

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Just got my rosin setup running. 10 ton hydraulic press and 3x5 plates.

So far not having much luck with yields. Only pressing small amounts (2g flower at a time). I tried a bunch of different techniques. Squishing an untouched bud, breaking up and pre-pressing pucks of flower. Different temperatures, pressures and pressing times.

The best yield I was able to get was about 3%, which is not ideal lol.

I see a lot of people are having success with using micron bags, but I am not sure if it's really going to make a dramatic difference.

I think the main issues may be the age/dryness of my flower (on a 1-10 scale of sticky to bone dry it's probably a 7.5). Also I am using unbleached (brown) parchment paper. I also see a lot of people prefer the more white, shiny silicone treated parchment paper. There seems to be a lot of oil soaking into the parchment on my presses.

Any tips for my circumstances?

Also, where is the best place to get 90 or 100 micron rosin bags and not pay close to $1/bag. That seems really expensive for a non-reusabe bag.

Thanks!

I saw a guy on youtube pressing in polytetrafluoroethylene sheets instead of parchment because of the absorption issue, he said it was a definitely improving his yields.

 

[whadeezlrg]

when I'm just pressing a few nugs for the head, and things are on the dry side; I cup the buds in my hand and just breathe into my hands for about a minute. the buds go right back into their soft/sticky former selves and are ready to ooze out their goodness. fwiw...definitely helps if you want instant satisfaction, and dont want to wait on a boveda to stabilizer the rh.

I honestly do it to most of the small amounts that friends give me, when a jar and a boveda is just overkill for the situation.

 

[Hammerhead]

I saw a guy on youtube pressing in polytetrafluoroethylene sheets instead of parchment because of the absorption issue, he said it was a definitely improving his yields.

polytetrafluoroethylene sheets I found are not cheap. I never noticed any absorption from parchment. The bags are a different story.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I saw a guy on youtube pressing in polytetrafluoroethylene sheets instead of parchment because of the absorption issue, he said it was a definitely improving his yields.

I have a hard time believing that after doing weight tests myself. Granted, I dont have a high pressure press, I am using a c clamp, but I weighed papers before and after squish after hearing claims months ago that some parchment would leach oil into it, and parchment gains no discernable weight , when weighed to .00

I would weigh parchment before and after cleaning it, and get results within .001

 

[Gr33nSanta]

I agree with Hammerhead, my plates are 4x7, I press roughly 5 grams without screens, I dab the premium and the rest goes into a pile that eventually gets cleaned through coffee filters.

I grow a lot of varieties at once (considering the size of my garden...) and I can tell you some varieties dont yield well at all. I actually have some varieties that I prefer to mix the popcorn buds with the trim to make hash before pressing, and some varieties that the popcorn buds yield a lot.

So in your context, it could be the variety or the material you are pressing doesnt have a high ratio of resin heads vs plant matter.

For me, it s no screens for flower press, I use brown parchment paper, coffee filters to clean bubblehash or leftover flower rosin, yields are fine, I am happy.

I always stayed away from dabbing because I was worried about butane residual (whatever people may say) and so the rosin setup was the very best thing I have ever bought.

 

[Mikell]

PTFE.

Say it with me, PTFE.

Ya'll walking aroung swigging glasses of dihydrogen monoxide or water?


Try it once. I dare you. Anyone who thinks it is superior knows how to live a lie.


Unbleached parchment and coffee filtres are crap. Many think bleached implies a treatment with actual bleach.

H2O2.

Sorry.

Dihydrogen dioxide.

Pretty fricken' harmless last I checked.

 

[Hammerhead]

Why are they crap? ..I lov the product from coffee filters. I try to use 74um filters. Its not easy fining out what micron rating the are. I have a roll of 74um screen to make my own bags now. Its so much cheap to buy a roll and make bags.

 

[Mikell]

I blame filing taxes for my shittier than usual disposition.

Coffee filtres are great. I think I was ranting more about this knobishness of unbleached>bleached. I am not always clear.

 

[Gr33nSanta]

are you getting clearer product using bleached vs unbleached coffee filters? I assumed unbleached was superior for what we are doing. The parchment I use is the brand PaperChef, comes in 123 ft rolls and I absolutely love it.

 

[Wu-tang]

This is great for doing large half pound hash presses

I read the first 180 pages and the last 50 or so and no where do i see anyone else talking about large squishes?

I'm thinking of pressing 100 grams (hash) at a time what size of plates would be up for the task and what sort of pressure would it take?

Would 20ton press with 4"x7" plate's be good enough

 

[Mikell]

are you getting clearer product using bleached vs unbleached coffee filters? I assumed unbleached was superior for what we are doing. The parchment I use is the brand PaperChef, comes in 123 ft rolls and I absolutely love it.

Less comments on a toasty flavour with bleached.

PaperChef and Reynolds will both bleed under high pressure, Reynolds just takes more.

 

[Hammerhead]

I read the first 180 pages and the last 50 or so and no where do i see anyone else talking about large squishes?

I'm thinking of pressing 100 grams (hash) at a time what size of plates would be up for the task and what sort of pressure would it take?

Would 20ton press with 4"x7" plate's be good enough

If you can fit 100g puck on the plates with some wiggle room it should work fine. If squashing that much I would want pressure control. As the rosin is made the puck will get smaller adding a bit more pressure as the puck shrinks would work best. If you need to split that into 50g pucks is still fine.


This is my fav manufactured press. Its big bucks at 5500$. I don't know why they dont offer a 12 or 20 ton option. Might have to so with plate size?. This is a 5 ton press. I have read 5 tons is more then enough pressure if plates are small like 5x3. To calculate the pressure on a 5x3 plate, Ton x 2000/15=666 psi. if your bags are 2x4 the pressure the bag gets is 5x2000/8=1250 psi. 4x7 plate on a 20t press is 20x2000/28=1428 psi.. on a 5 ton 357 psi. Larger the plate the less pressure u have. If you are using large plates a 20t press is needed. To much pressure can cause blowouts and particle contamination.

https://gopurepressure.com/collecti...ts/pikes-peak-rosin-press?variant=30732230915

 

[EsterEssence]

I do 50g presses using Sunfire directional flow folding tech. I use my harbor freight A frame press,waffle iron plates, and a 8 ton jack and lay it on it's side for drip tech...

 

[KONY]

I do 50g presses using Sunfire directional flow folding tech. I use my harbor freight A frame press,waffle iron plates, and a 8 ton jack and lay it on it's side for drip tech...

50 grams of flower I am assuming? What surface area roughly?

I have 3x5 plates with a 10 ton press. I wish I woulda got the 4x7 plates, but regardless I can do 14-15 grams of trim or flowers easily.

Any more than that greatly increases the chance of a blow out, then again i've noticed blowouts are more from uneven prepacking than anything else.

 

[brown_thumb]

I think a one ton press with adjustable heat is more than enough... but that's just me.

I bought a small vulcanizer that I'll bet does all I need it to do without INFINITY 50 BILLION TONS OF squeezing strength.

I PERSONALLY THINK these gazillion tons of squeeze strength IS SILLY UNNECESSARY!!

 

[Gr33nSanta]

I think a one ton press with adjustable heat is more than enough... but that's just me.

I bought a small vulcanizer that I'll bet does all I need it to do without INFINITY 50 BILLION TONS OF squeezing strength.

I PERSONALLY THINK these gazillion tons of squeeze strength IS SILLY UNNECESSARY!!

10 ton jack, small presses (4-8 grams) and the pucks are always still soft and full of oil. I plan to upgrade to 20 ton when I can afford it, I hate to leave so much behind. If your pressing strictly hash its a different story but for flower rosin, you need gazillion tons of squeeze strength, using less is silly!!

 

[Hammerhead]

You dont need such high pressure for plates 5x3 or smaller.. Use the math I posted. A 5 ton on 5x3 plate is plenty. Its over kill to use more pressure you wont gain anything using 1. 2x4 squash bags see 1250 PSI. That press I posted above is a 5 ton with 10x3 plates=333 PSI so with 9x2 bags you will have 555 PSI.

 

[Wolfshadoe]

Tagged

I got ALOT of catching up to do!!

 

[packerfan79]

I read the first 180 pages and the last 50 or so and no where do i see anyone else talking about large squishes?

I'm thinking of pressing 100 grams (hash) at a time what size of plates would be up for the task and what sort of pressure would it take?

Would 20ton press with 4"x7" plate's be good enough

Pressing hash requires coffee filter, or rosin bags preferably. I don't think you are going to get 100 grams of bubble into a bag. The bigger the plates the grater the pressure needed to get it done. I think you are dreaming, you might be able to do it with elysian researchs 5 grand pneumatic press or mabey pure pressures press. Either way you are going to spend 5 grand or more to be able to handle that much at one time. If you get a helper to load the bags while you press you can get quite a bit of hash pressed rather quickly.