B4URTIME
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How does the flavor come out? Does it have that raw oil taste or is it flavorful? I wanna make the switch to solventless dabs but I do not wanna switch at the cost of losing the flavor.
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How does the flavor come out? Does it have that raw oil taste or is it flavorful? I wanna make the switch to solventless dabs but I do not wanna switch at the cost of losing the flavor.
FoothillFarming
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Totally coming in here not reading the last 100 pages at all. Please tell me to flick off if lameness occurs.....
So I am thinking of buying a commercial rosin machine. I am looking at @elysianresearch on IG, and @Twitchextracts_rosin uses the machine as well. Here is the post with the details on what comes with it. https://www.instagram.com/p/BJY81MHASfR/
Good machine? Anybody know better?
So I am thinking of buying a commercial rosin machine. I am looking at @elysianresearch on IG, and @Twitchextracts_rosin uses the machine as well. Here is the post with the details on what comes with it. https://www.instagram.com/p/BJY81MHASfR/
Good machine? Anybody know better?
FoothillFarming
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Also, how are people making their kief? Polinator? DIY tumbler?
I'd definitely stop using dry ice - It oxidizes the trichomes, making your oil dark and sappy.
Foothills,
Hair straightener - 25$
HMK - 50$
DIY (a la Weird or Lapides) - 300-500$
Shop press + ready made heater/plate combo (TimeWizard GreyFox, Clean Extractions, etc) - 700-2000$
Elysian - +4000$
Everything else looks like trash. I believe Twitch Extractions was designing a prototype rosin press before ordering from Sunfire et al, wherein prototype means Chinese premade from Alibaba.
Read nonsponsored reviews, they are all terrible.
Hair straightener - 25$
HMK - 50$
DIY (a la Weird or Lapides) - 300-500$
Shop press + ready made heater/plate combo (TimeWizard GreyFox, Clean Extractions, etc) - 700-2000$
Elysian - +4000$
Everything else looks like trash. I believe Twitch Extractions was designing a prototype rosin press before ordering from Sunfire et al, wherein prototype means Chinese premade from Alibaba.
Read nonsponsored reviews, they are all terrible.
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What do you suggest when I have 2.5lbs of sugar trim? I can dry ice extract and press 50g kief vs trying to press 2.5lbs of trim. Press 20 kief baggies vs 200 baggies of trim.
Also, my trim comes out darker as I use a trimming machine, and not hand trimmed. I have bad ra and my hands don't work like they used to.
Also, my trim comes out darker as I use a trimming machine, and not hand trimmed. I have bad ra and my hands don't work like they used to.
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Whats the word on the baileigh press? Does it squish quality?
Should give Lappy the credit for putting together the diy, I am just posting the product he initially sourced and put together.
I have a smash lab, it's OK the plates are not straight. Or flat for that matter. For 450 it is worth it. I looked at all the alibaba crap no thanks.
Yep. This is a pretty fair summarization of the current options. Check out jewelry presses. They have had a similar requirement since forever for stamping. Dude on etsy was making tw's design but for jewelry pressing. He since stopped selling them i think but that was my intent for a while. Im waiting to build or buy a desktop model. Dont want to spend the floor space or id do an h frame too. Much cheaper at the moment.
What tw grey fox is doing is the best approach imho coupled with a BVA.... im waiting to see his price
FoothillFarming
Active member
Thanks for the response, but I don't quite get what you are saying...... You list all the different machines, but don't really say anything about them. You say non sponsored reviews are terrible....for what machine?
I am looking for quality and quantity, without skimping on either. So the first bunch are not what I personally am looking for. Is the Sasquatch part of the 500-2000 dollar value? That is the other I was eyeing.
Twitch may have bought other presses, but he just bought the Elysian and says it's the best on the market in his opinion.
Thanks for all the responses everybody, and sorry I didn't understand what is most likely crystal clear Mikell.
FoothillFarming
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Made my choice. I will post up some pics when the time comes. Thanks everybody.
I am not always clear.
What I listed are the only options viable, obviously in my opinion. The shirt presses and pneumatics look awful from a distance. D-Nail, Happy Bhudda, etc, fall apart under scrutiny.
I haven't used a Sasquish but single heated plates stand out as terrible, supported by user review.
The nonsponsored review comment was directed at B4URTIME.
Done Dee.
What I listed are the only options viable, obviously in my opinion. The shirt presses and pneumatics look awful from a distance. D-Nail, Happy Bhudda, etc, fall apart under scrutiny.
I haven't used a Sasquish but single heated plates stand out as terrible, supported by user review.
The nonsponsored review comment was directed at B4URTIME.
Done Dee.
I appreciate it but I really don't need any credit. The info has been on the webz for awhile now, I just did a little digging to get what I wanted at the price I wanted to pay...then I helped my friends 
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My less than $500 option has been great. I can easily press 20 grams at a time. I use it several times a day. I had to buy a new jack, but that was expected since I bought from HF and I got the extended warranty so no loss.
If you have a metal shop in your area, I recommend finding pics of good looking plates online and showing them to the metal shop guy and ask him to make them. Most likely he will be happy for the easy work and you should be able to get away with a nice set of plates for under $150.
Getting them heated is easier than wiring an enail and instructions are everywhere.
.My less than $500 option has been great. I can easily press 20 grams at a time. I use it several times a day. I had to buy a new jack, but that was expected since I bought from HF and I got the extended warranty so no loss.
If you have a metal shop in your area, I recommend finding pics of good looking plates online and showing them to the metal shop guy and ask him to make them. Most likely he will be happy for the easy work and you should be able to get away with a nice set of plates for under $150.
Getting them heated is easier than wiring an enail and instructions are everywhere.
The jewelery volcanoes arnt half bad at all. I have a friend who won one in a bid for like 300 dollars. He says it works better than his hardpress.
From china a decent jewelery vulcanizer is about 800 delivered. You'll have to swap relays and heating elements once a year probably but the companies usually sell replacements. I don't think it's a bad option at all for those that want an all in one out of the box action. The platens and controller are usually dissacurate so be sure to check them with the masking tape and IR gun trick.
Twitch was indeed trying to build their own but they gave up. They for sure weren't doing any rebranded chinese crap they were building from the ground up which is why the know all the details and costs that go into American made top quality and were more than happy to fly to california from Colorado and pick up a press. They recently broke our returns record on 2 ounce presses, 25%. Best we ever did was 23%.
A little return and quality is sacrafice with larger presses for sure. We've done lots of experiments on all sorts of sizes and shapes and where we landed was right before the curve startS plummeting.
I always tell people if the hair iron can satisfy you, spend the money on soil and seeds. If you need a little more, get some decent stand alone platens and a shop press. Don't exceed 75% of that shop press' max rating. Once you get the hang of it all, and have a desire or need for larger, then hit the higher price tag presses after a good amount of research and due diligence. Your older and smaller presses will make great gifts to a friend or perhaps hold some resale value.
My bottom line here is...don't rush into a big purchase. I know several people who have purchased several presses because they weren't satisfied with what they had before. The chinese imports are mostly garbage but if they appeal to you buy direct from China and save you sell a grand or two. It would really suck to spend 10k or more before you found the one you liked. Going bigger changes things and takes more attention to detail for good yields and quality. I always recommend people start off with a smaller more economical option.
I even bought myself a set of platens and controllers for timewarp greyfox. They look great! Havnt used them yet It's nice having a smaller option. I know they are going to work great as I've walked side by side with him as he designed and developed them and the price is fair imo. I'm going to use them to show people a drip tech missing link. I thought for sure people would have figured this out by now but I think lots of other press designers skipped all the research and just started ripping us off. So since it hasn't been revealed yet, I'm going to show everyone how to do an easy at home drip tech setup for about 600 dollars total cost with 3x3 platens pressing 2x2 material packs. Well worth it for pressing hashes. I'll be making that video and putting it on yutube n a week or two. I'll link it here after I do.
From china a decent jewelery vulcanizer is about 800 delivered. You'll have to swap relays and heating elements once a year probably but the companies usually sell replacements. I don't think it's a bad option at all for those that want an all in one out of the box action. The platens and controller are usually dissacurate so be sure to check them with the masking tape and IR gun trick.
Twitch was indeed trying to build their own but they gave up. They for sure weren't doing any rebranded chinese crap they were building from the ground up which is why the know all the details and costs that go into American made top quality and were more than happy to fly to california from Colorado and pick up a press. They recently broke our returns record on 2 ounce presses, 25%. Best we ever did was 23%.
A little return and quality is sacrafice with larger presses for sure. We've done lots of experiments on all sorts of sizes and shapes and where we landed was right before the curve startS plummeting.
I always tell people if the hair iron can satisfy you, spend the money on soil and seeds. If you need a little more, get some decent stand alone platens and a shop press. Don't exceed 75% of that shop press' max rating. Once you get the hang of it all, and have a desire or need for larger, then hit the higher price tag presses after a good amount of research and due diligence. Your older and smaller presses will make great gifts to a friend or perhaps hold some resale value.
My bottom line here is...don't rush into a big purchase. I know several people who have purchased several presses because they weren't satisfied with what they had before. The chinese imports are mostly garbage but if they appeal to you buy direct from China and save you sell a grand or two. It would really suck to spend 10k or more before you found the one you liked. Going bigger changes things and takes more attention to detail for good yields and quality. I always recommend people start off with a smaller more economical option.
I even bought myself a set of platens and controllers for timewarp greyfox. They look great! Havnt used them yet It's nice having a smaller option. I know they are going to work great as I've walked side by side with him as he designed and developed them and the price is fair imo. I'm going to use them to show people a drip tech missing link. I thought for sure people would have figured this out by now but I think lots of other press designers skipped all the research and just started ripping us off. So since it hasn't been revealed yet, I'm going to show everyone how to do an easy at home drip tech setup for about 600 dollars total cost with 3x3 platens pressing 2x2 material packs. Well worth it for pressing hashes. I'll be making that video and putting it on yutube n a week or two. I'll link it here after I do.
Yes yes for sure I was generalizing. For "nug runs" rosin can compete, even with the larger 2 ounce presses we do.
With trim, not so much. With my old cls I could get 15-18% bho on trim. With tumbling kief it works out to about 10% over all return from the original trim weight. This is cause tumbling, even in my dry and cold AF room, just isn't super efficient. I like it though. Better flavor than any of the bho I ever made and it's quick and easy and I'm not paranoid about getting busted with this huge illegal lab on my farm. Washing the trim would give a much better return but I'm so lazy lmfao! Some people like headyblunts has great results pressing trim straight up but I know those folks do a really careful job trimming. Not everyone has that option though when pulling down greenhouses and fields lol.
I use a pollen master but always dealt with the sweet old Canadian family. They recently sold the company and it moved to NY. People tell me quality seems the same but there's a 1 month lead time.
Mila'S pollenator is a little more expensive and different sizes but usually found in stock online.
The design of the ape with the rubber drive always falls apart and gets rubber bits everywhere in your kief and that machine hates the cold.
For smaller amounts there a small tumbler (like 150 gram rating) from a company in the UK that's very well priced. I don't have any links for any of these but you can google it easy enough.
Since pressing seems most productive at a higher level of moisture the weights are a bit subjective. With that said I pressed some stuff in my smoking jar for a buddy who came over. We pressed some of his nugget the return was not spectacular. Pressed mine and the returns where acceptable and consistent.
Strain subjective of course, this was Philthys P1, 1 press each puck and get over 25% each time.
Strain subjective of course, this was Philthys P1, 1 press each puck and get over 25% each time.
Next time he brings over too dry bud, stick it in a sealed jar with some water or apple bits for an hour, it will be nice for pressing. I wont press buds brought over unless properly moistened, or already damp at arrival.
I believe moisture is actually the single most important factor for best results. The same buds pressed at different moisture levels will effect taste and yield. I have some Sour bubble that has been curing for a couple months. It is cured very nicely for Rosin pressing. I get thick Squishes with small amounts. If you use hygrometers in your jars, having your buds at 60-65% RH in jar works great.
