I've heard good things about the sasquash (spelling?) but have no data really.
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that ez press pro looks like a pretty half assed design. and that press looks like some repurposed imported garbage. i havent seen it in person tho. definitely sets off my rip-off alarms.
if youre ready to buy a commercial production press and you dont mind spending $4k the best made options IMO are elysian research and sasquatch.
at least theyre both designed from the ground up and made in the USA from quality componants.
i think heating only one plate is a strange decision but they say the heat transfers quickly to the other while its warming as long as they are touching.
id rather have dual heated plates with precision thermocouples personally. precise heat and pressure is key to maintaining quality as you scale up production IME.
while the cost is way out of my price range, for quality heavy duty commercial equipment its not exorbatant by any means when compared to similar-duty machine shop/garage equipment. id definitely be tryin to buy the elysian press if i were still processing for the med scene.
im back on a $50 hmk these days
if youre ready to buy a commercial production press and you dont mind spending $4k the best made options IMO are elysian research and sasquatch.
at least theyre both designed from the ground up and made in the USA from quality componants.
i think heating only one plate is a strange decision but they say the heat transfers quickly to the other while its warming as long as they are touching.
id rather have dual heated plates with precision thermocouples personally. precise heat and pressure is key to maintaining quality as you scale up production IME.
while the cost is way out of my price range, for quality heavy duty commercial equipment its not exorbatant by any means when compared to similar-duty machine shop/garage equipment. id definitely be tryin to buy the elysian press if i were still processing for the med scene.
im back on a $50 hmk these days
the TWGF platens seem pretty bulletproof. theyll definitely outlast the dake press.
i left it with the med garden but trained my friend up before i left. he's been getting incredible analytic results on the trim rosin. nearly zero decarb and TAC levels of 75--85%.
i built a new HMK as soon as i landed at my new spot
i left it with the med garden but trained my friend up before i left. he's been getting incredible analytic results on the trim rosin. nearly zero decarb and TAC levels of 75--85%.
i built a new HMK as soon as i landed at my new spot
I still have a pile "brewing" at the last house. If I find better digs we can be reunited.
nah had to leave the soil with the med garden too.
but i just built almost a yard of a similar mix and i'm enjoying the silver linings of only having to provide for myself. the work load is minuscule! plus i bought some 315 lamps for consolation hehe. they are kicking ass! looking forward to my utility bill for the first time in a WHILE.
but i just built almost a yard of a similar mix and i'm enjoying the silver linings of only having to provide for myself. the work load is minuscule! plus i bought some 315 lamps for consolation hehe. they are kicking ass! looking forward to my utility bill for the first time in a WHILE.
The whole idea is that rosin is solvent less, you can soak what is left for solvent extract...
i built a new HMK as soon as i landed at my new spot
I am like a robot, haha.
I think my press setup only cost 35$ or so. New C clamp and a second-hand hair iron.
yes i understand it's solvent-less which is why i'm asking how it compares, and yes i understand you can obviously soak the remainder in solvent
All the chinese import presses get nothing but terrible reviews. They are all literally garbage.
A few of the pneumatic ones work, kinda, but you gotta go through like 3 of them just to find a good one lol.
I'm surprised you guys havnt seen more of this? It's all over Facebook and ig.
That best value vac one just got slammed on facebook yesterday. I've seen the same one for sale from china for like 600 or so and just like everyone else, best value just slapped a sticker on it and is now charging like 1600. Everything about it is fucked. I'm gonna have to just got take some screen shots I don't want to retype it all. All do a second post with them.
The sasquash is ok, it works, your only going to get as much as you pay for so considering the price, I suppose it's not the worst deal. Single heated platen is a bit slow, and theyre huge. That bottle jack couldn't handle more than a 5x5 load. I've been told by people who have them it takes 45 minutes to warm up both of them and in between every larger press you have to put them back in contact and wait another 10 or 15 minutes. The thing is heavy AF. The bottle jack chinese and welded to the cross member. Anyone who ever had a HF shop press knows how those chinese bottle jacks don't last long. When it goes out, idk how one is to replace it since it's welded to the cross beam. The frame dimensions are made to that jack size, can't replace it with one that had a gauge. Low profile 20 ton bottle jacks with a gauge port don't exist really. Having a gauge on a larger scale is absolutely crucial for the process but also for the equipment. No hydraulic equipment should be operated at more than 80% it max rating.
To sum it all up, you get what you pay for. The sasquash is ok for the price I suppose, there are worse options out there from china lol! I always tell people that if the hair straightener works, then use the money on soil and seeds. If they want to step it up, buy some decent stand alone platens, a 20 ton shop press with a Guage, and only use 10-15 of those tons. Then once they get the hang of larger production, sell that setup to a friend and upgrade so something more fancy.
Oh and another thing about chinese presses. If your gonna buy one. Buy it direct from china. I'll attach a pic from a recent email, I get them all the time these days. Chinese companies trying to sell us their gear. They quote us at their low prices then I see the exact same ones marked up like 400%. I won't say names, but there's a group on instagram that have like 100k followers and slang these chinese presses and people gobble up the hype sales. They like to do stuff like "500 dollars off omfg" but really they still making 300% markup.
A few of the pneumatic ones work, kinda, but you gotta go through like 3 of them just to find a good one lol.
I'm surprised you guys havnt seen more of this? It's all over Facebook and ig.
That best value vac one just got slammed on facebook yesterday. I've seen the same one for sale from china for like 600 or so and just like everyone else, best value just slapped a sticker on it and is now charging like 1600. Everything about it is fucked. I'm gonna have to just got take some screen shots I don't want to retype it all. All do a second post with them.
The sasquash is ok, it works, your only going to get as much as you pay for so considering the price, I suppose it's not the worst deal. Single heated platen is a bit slow, and theyre huge. That bottle jack couldn't handle more than a 5x5 load. I've been told by people who have them it takes 45 minutes to warm up both of them and in between every larger press you have to put them back in contact and wait another 10 or 15 minutes. The thing is heavy AF. The bottle jack chinese and welded to the cross member. Anyone who ever had a HF shop press knows how those chinese bottle jacks don't last long. When it goes out, idk how one is to replace it since it's welded to the cross beam. The frame dimensions are made to that jack size, can't replace it with one that had a gauge. Low profile 20 ton bottle jacks with a gauge port don't exist really. Having a gauge on a larger scale is absolutely crucial for the process but also for the equipment. No hydraulic equipment should be operated at more than 80% it max rating.
To sum it all up, you get what you pay for. The sasquash is ok for the price I suppose, there are worse options out there from china lol! I always tell people that if the hair straightener works, then use the money on soil and seeds. If they want to step it up, buy some decent stand alone platens, a 20 ton shop press with a Guage, and only use 10-15 of those tons. Then once they get the hang of larger production, sell that setup to a friend and upgrade so something more fancy.
Oh and another thing about chinese presses. If your gonna buy one. Buy it direct from china. I'll attach a pic from a recent email, I get them all the time these days. Chinese companies trying to sell us their gear. They quote us at their low prices then I see the exact same ones marked up like 400%. I won't say names, but there's a group on instagram that have like 100k followers and slang these chinese presses and people gobble up the hype sales. They like to do stuff like "500 dollars off omfg" but really they still making 300% markup.
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Ahhh crap, the posts about the best value vacs press got deleted in two different groups hahahahaha! Ok I guess I type it all out. Attached is a pic incase you havnt seen it plus you can see the things I'm talking about. Then you can cruise around on alibaba and find the same exact thing for more than half the price shipped to your door.
So somewhere it's somehow advertised as 17 tons, I've never seen this but people were saying that. I do know that it is actually 12 tons.
The bottom support plate has spacers between it and the bottom platen. Bad call to save money on insulation. That thin little bottom support plate deflects like crazy and starts warping really quickly.
One guy posted a video of the hydraulic cylinder completely blown out and said heS barely used it. Another person said he knew they were a cheap ass brand called auplex and all their stuff is worse than eneprac harbor freight style.
Some one else said his hydraulics survived long enough for the top structural support plate to also start warping from lots of deflection.
Another guy said the pump started leaking quickly and would not hold pressure.
One person showed a pic of theirs broken straight out of the box (heard that a lot with the chinese imports, happens in shipping and importers don't test shit and just want that paper).
Some one said they did the old masking tape and ir gun trick to the platens and said the platen surface temp and the controllers are way off, also typical of chinese presses.
The pics people put up showed the platens were extremely misaligned.
I think some one else was saying some thing about the base underneath the cylinder also was warping out but I don't recall seeing and pics of such.
Aaaaaand, to answer a more recent question...
Yes rosin is not as efficient of an extraction as far as overall weight is concerned. Solvents will also be able to strip away more compounds. Rosin certainly seems to retain way more terps since there is no vac purge and I've seen analytical from rosin showing numbers as high as dewaxed bho would be. Some may be more concerned about overall weight while others are more concerned with other factors. There's no "the one" or perfect extraction technique. They all have their different attributes and a place in the world.
So somewhere it's somehow advertised as 17 tons, I've never seen this but people were saying that. I do know that it is actually 12 tons.
The bottom support plate has spacers between it and the bottom platen. Bad call to save money on insulation. That thin little bottom support plate deflects like crazy and starts warping really quickly.
One guy posted a video of the hydraulic cylinder completely blown out and said heS barely used it. Another person said he knew they were a cheap ass brand called auplex and all their stuff is worse than eneprac harbor freight style.
Some one else said his hydraulics survived long enough for the top structural support plate to also start warping from lots of deflection.
Another guy said the pump started leaking quickly and would not hold pressure.
One person showed a pic of theirs broken straight out of the box (heard that a lot with the chinese imports, happens in shipping and importers don't test shit and just want that paper).
Some one said they did the old masking tape and ir gun trick to the platens and said the platen surface temp and the controllers are way off, also typical of chinese presses.
The pics people put up showed the platens were extremely misaligned.
I think some one else was saying some thing about the base underneath the cylinder also was warping out but I don't recall seeing and pics of such.
Aaaaaand, to answer a more recent question...
Yes rosin is not as efficient of an extraction as far as overall weight is concerned. Solvents will also be able to strip away more compounds. Rosin certainly seems to retain way more terps since there is no vac purge and I've seen analytical from rosin showing numbers as high as dewaxed bho would be. Some may be more concerned about overall weight while others are more concerned with other factors. There's no "the one" or perfect extraction technique. They all have their different attributes and a place in the world.
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I think this is slightly strain dependent. I have pressed stuff out at 30%, and actually never achieved 30% doing BHO extractions for over a decade. I know the odd time it happens, just saying some strains seem to press out quite completely.
B4URTIME
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I have only done some small test runs with less then worthy equipment, So far I have noticed a substantial reduction in flavor when comparing rosin to bho shatter. I'm wondering if it's because of inaccurate temps or not. I have been debating getting a rosin press and trying to perfect the tech before I rule it out and opt for closed loop extractor.
So what's the consensus is it possible to squish some flavorful rosin out with the right pressure heat and time? I recently found a rosin press that looks to be quality made. It doesn't have the highest pressure at 1140lbs of squishing power. The video's I have seen putting it to use do make it appear to perform decently. At the price point It's really hard to find a better bang for the buck with the ease this machine has but I am not convinced that rosin can actually compete with BHO shatter.
The rosin press I have been eye balling is called (Mr. Rosin) It's a pneumatic press and uses an air compressor. It's a complete portable ready to go unit. I found it retailing for 699.99 less then $710.00 delivered in 2 days. So my question is 1 what do you think of this Mr Rosin Press. 2 Do you think properly pressed rosin can compete with properly produced shatter? Flavor is very important to me and I cannot see myself sacrificing my terps for solvent free extraction process.
Here is a link to a youtube video illustrating the mr rosin press.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK3qKClRf9c
So what's the consensus is it possible to squish some flavorful rosin out with the right pressure heat and time? I recently found a rosin press that looks to be quality made. It doesn't have the highest pressure at 1140lbs of squishing power. The video's I have seen putting it to use do make it appear to perform decently. At the price point It's really hard to find a better bang for the buck with the ease this machine has but I am not convinced that rosin can actually compete with BHO shatter.
The rosin press I have been eye balling is called (Mr. Rosin) It's a pneumatic press and uses an air compressor. It's a complete portable ready to go unit. I found it retailing for 699.99 less then $710.00 delivered in 2 days. So my question is 1 what do you think of this Mr Rosin Press. 2 Do you think properly pressed rosin can compete with properly produced shatter? Flavor is very important to me and I cannot see myself sacrificing my terps for solvent free extraction process.
Here is a link to a youtube video illustrating the mr rosin press.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK3qKClRf9c
B4URTIME
Member
Do you have links on where to purchase all the parts for under 300.00? Is there a thread or anything? NVM I found your post a few pages back!
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