New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[Sunfire]

Yes that's a terrible shortcut. I wish them luck with good surface temp resolution and accurate surface temp control.

Idk why people try to re-invent the wheel using stoner engineering. Hot presses have been manufactured for over 70 years by some American companies. Most likely millions of dollars and millions of hours have been put into research and engineering of hot presses over the last 50+ years. I guess I really shouldn't be saying or sharing this but I got icmag family love.

@medisunman did that first, with the repurposed enail coils. But his ig account is gone now?!?

Also, watch out for people using cheap aluminum billet as I have said several times in this thread. Quality products require quality dollars to be obtained.

Also be aware of Chinese components. That's how they get the price of an enail down to 200$ for a complete setup.

 

[blastfrompast]

yup...

Me i'm happy pressing at 180 and if I go up or down 10' I am not all that concerned...

Back to playing with SS also... heading to the metal supply store after work for more goodies

Found some thin SS sheeting with interesting perf's I am going to try, see if I can get paperless piston design working with flowers.....

So here is a question...

Would you be happy with a 2.5g flower press.... 0.4g return with some wastage? VS .45g using a traditional pancake press...

if you didn't have to collect it off of parchment..?

and is anybody re-siv'ing their flower pressed rosin to remove any veg matter fyou miss with the dental pic ?

 

[Ph-patrol]

signing in

 

[Sunfire]

I rather take less return for no paper and no collection. All day.

 

[heady blunts]

you figure out a way to auto load and clean between presses and i'm all about it!

i can always use the left overs for edible extractions.

 

[Grey_Fox]

Hey all. Just wanted to chime in on the Rufiocraft plates that were mentioned. I was on his IG page asking him a bunch of questions about the plates and he was always sort of dodging the question by answering it without giving any detail. I asked him heat up times and he said pretty good considering it weighs 8 pounds. He also got his 70ton claim by pressing the two plates together, not sure if that changes anything but it seems like 70ton + 2 - 1/2" pieces of aluminum is a bad time once you have screens and material in there. As Sunfire mentioned it doesn't seem like there is enough Aluminum between the heaters and the surface to keep the hot spots from occurring.
He has since removed the picture I was asking questions on. Take that all with a grain of salt.

 

[Ringodoggie]

Well, I learned one thing tonight. The taste and aroma sure pass through when making rosin from flowers. LOL

I was pressing some popcorn from some G-13 Labs Cinderella99. If you have grown C99 and it's anything like mine... you know it has a very unusual and unique aroma and taste. Especially, the aroma.

So, I was pressing some flowers and Mrs. Ringodoggie comes into the room proclaiming, "I smell Cinderella". LMAO

Then, when I was vaping it, I could definitely recognize the C99 flavor and, even the aroma in the exhale.

I tried a few new ideas tonight and nothing I did got any real different results. Lower temps, higher temps, longer presses, shorter presses.... I seem to end up all about the same for me. Anything between 240F and 340F and time between 10 seconds and 3 minutes...... results are all about the same.

Mine flows out of the edges so it doesn't overcook on the higher temps or longer presses. It just seems like it works faster at different settings.

I did verify one thing... the standard fan speed controllers we all use worked just fine for adjusting the temperature of my heating elements (PTC's).

I also noticed there is a max in what seems to be effective pressure. At least for my size of package (0.5 gram to 1 gram). If I bear down and max my press, the pattern spreads and the paper wrinkles (just before fracture) making collection more difficult. I find that a soft squeeze gets the same amount of rosin and it collects it into smaller puddles, rather than spreading it. For reference, my press is a 6 ton hydraulic.

It also seems to me that the "droplet" effect was caused more by pressure than heat.

I know one thing for sure..... it all makes me hungry. I smell steak on the table.

Bye bye

 

[Sunfire]

Hey all. Just wanted to chime in on the Rufiocraft plates that were mentioned. I was on his IG page asking him a bunch of questions about the plates and he was always sort of dodging the question by answering it without giving any detail. I asked him heat up times and he said pretty good considering it weighs 8 pounds. He also got his 70ton claim by pressing the two plates together, not sure if that changes anything but it seems like 70ton + 2 - 1/2" pieces of aluminum is a bad time once you have screens and material in there. As Sunfire mentioned it doesn't seem like there is enough Aluminum between the heaters and the surface to keep the hot spots from occurring.
He has since removed the picture I was asking questions on. Take that all with a grain of salt.

I saw him talking about the 6-20,ton presses. 710 whip has been too so I guess the word is out on harbor freight officially lol!

Dude why did you make me look at that grey fox? Lmfao I feel so bad for people! It's pure chinese and shit alloy if the whole thing only costs 400 retail which means it costed him way less to make. Lmfao especially a 4 zone pid controller hahahaha Omg I can't stop laughing! Yall should start looking up the prices of quality multi zone controllers. Could easily spend 600 just on the controller, let alone 4 high grade relays. China seems to be the enail go to I guess.

I don't thing it takes an engineer or rocket scientist to look at those plates and think about heat radiating from the coils. Can anyone guess where there will be major hot spots and cold spots?

I'm sure it's also obvious, well not to him, whats gonna happen with that alloy when that much force is applied to the center of the platens and not evenly distributed. But even if the platens were reinforced, that shit is gonna deflect so hard over the coil heater slots.

Also...those flexible coil heaters have a built in thermocouple. Your NOT reading the surface temp, your reading the coil temp, so I wish them luck with that as I said in an earlier post.

Oh my bad, I see the 70 ton claim now ahahhah

Lmfao he had to run and get strait when I started asking questions hahahah !

 

[heady blunts]

at least straight is finally getting the oil to run off the heated area lol.

grey fox putting in work today!

 

[blastfrompast]

I saw him talking about the 6-20,ton presses. 710 whip has been too so I guess the word is out on harbor freight officially lol!

Dude why did you make me look at that grey fox? Lmfao I feel so bad for people! It's pure chinese and shit alloy if the whole thing only costs 400 retail which means it costed him way less to make. Lmfao especially a 4 zone pid controller hahahaha Omg I can't stop laughing! Yall should start looking up the prices of quality multi zone controllers. Could easily spend 600 just on the controller, let alone 4 high grade relays. China seems to be the enail go to I guess.

I don't thing it takes an engineer or rocket scientist to look at those plates and think about heat radiating from the coils. Can anyone guess where there will be major hot spots and cold spots?

I'm sure it's also obvious, well not to him, whats gonna happen with that alloy when that much force is applied to the center of the platens and not evenly distributed. But even if the platens were reinforced, that shit is gonna deflect so hard over the coil heater slots.

Also...those flexible coil heaters have a built in thermocouple. Your NOT reading the surface temp, your reading the coil temp, so I wish them luck with that as I said in an earlier post.

Oh my bad, I see the 70 ton claim now ahahhah

Lmfao he had to run and get strait when I started asking questions hahahah !

Anyone who will spend $400 for plates alone with just some heaters is out to lunch.....

Fuck me I should have marketed my piston style hash press the way things are going.... Coulda still made money selling the shit at 800...even if the tail end of a pull was overcooked a bit.

Funny enough I saw my welder/machinist on my commute in this morning... Stupid guy coulda been making presses right now instead of busting his ass welding steel rails...had he only not been so greedy.

 

[EsterEssence]

If i get more than 10 tons on my press it starts getting scary, everything better be straight if something came apart at 70 tons watch out...

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

It also seems to me that the "droplet" effect was caused more by pressure than heat.

do you mean lots of pressure makes it happen more, or less? because for me, i get the droplet effect with very low pressure, and higher heat than normal, with very damp material.

 

[Ringodoggie]

Mine seemed to happen with higher pressure, regardless of the temp.

Perhaps the high pressure is "spraying" it out of the plant mater, rather than "squeezing" it out slowly into a puddle.

Not sure. I'll run some more specific tests and confirm next time I press.

 

[Red Bear]

anyone try the rosintechproducts heat presses yet? thinking about ordering th 15" X 15"...
the rtp gold series has two hot plates. looks okay?

 

[heady blunts]

don't do it RB. spend a couple days researching before spending money on a press.

rosentech has a bad rep and the large plate presses are terrible in general.

if you've got $3500 the hard press is sexy and functional. it's best designed press i've seen on the market so far.

innovation is occurring daily, so who knows what will be the best press tomorrow?

i still use a $50 diy press so take my advice fwiw.

 

[Red Bear]

okay, thanks heady!

 

[Sunfire]

at least straight is finally getting the oil to run off the heated area lol.

grey fox putting in work today!

No dude that's just on the ends! The majority of the oils still sits inside the platens baking away.

Gray fox should have got on board 6 months ago, he'd be a millionaire by now!

I like ash and the hard press is better than most others but my vote on best current market press is the happy Buddha press that Hashtrodaumus is making. Idk if he has production capabilities or not but he's the only one I know that is doing it right based on the 100 years of R&D in the hot press industry.

I'm seriously blown away by what's going on. I think most people don't actually know what engineering entails or why most real engineers make twice the average American salary.

 

[Grey_Fox]

I did verify one thing... the standard fan speed controllers we all use worked just fine for adjusting the temperature

Thanks for the confirmation dude. May I ask what type of dimmer and also what type wiring did you do?
Ive been looking at lamp dimmers rated for 300w and 10A. They have two wires and was wondering if I just had to wire the heaters in line with the dimmer from the positive of the dimmer to the heater than back to the neutral wire from the 110v supply.

Thanks to everyone else as well for following my adventures on Instagram as I get all my jank in order.
@headyblunts I am gettin er don uryday mange hahaha ;P
@sunfire I wish I was as well. But Ill have to make my Millions 6 months from now.

As for the plates on the market. Hashtrodamus is definitely the best in the engineering side. I gave him a #doingitright and wanted to throw Rovio crafts name in there buuut that would be mean. I dont want to see anyone die from 70ton press tho:/

Any speculation what happened to medisunman?

 

[blastfrompast]

Rufiocraft is saying his plates are 100% SS now, not alumin as I read in this thread earlier....

Anyone got a price points for what is being offered now...

 

[HazeOil]

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