NEW Colorado Growers Thread

Seaf0ur · Sep 7, 2016

Ganoderma said:
Patent # 6,630,507 is one example of that.

Ganoderma · Sep 7, 2016

It's like the whole American Revolution all over. Instead of red coats we now have the blue coats, which out dear leaders have turned them into. The French revolted against the fat cats that owned everything, once upon a time.

Seaf0ur said:
This shit is not going to get any better for those of you who try to follow the ever-changing laws that are not in our benefit.

So What are we going to do about it? ? ?

Corvette Doc · Sep 7, 2016

Seaf0ur said:
I know...
Here are more examples for those who dont wish to look this shit up themselves with links...

20160015682 TETRAHYDROCANNABIVARIN (THCV) FOR USE IN THE PROTECTION OF PANCREATIC ISLET CELLS
20150366154 BREEDING, PRODUCTION, PROCESSING AND USE OF SPECIALTY CANNABIS
20150359756 USE OF CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150359755 USE OF CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150359188 BREEDING, PRODUCTION, PROCESSING AND USE OF SPECIALTY CANNABIS
20150335590 USE OF ONE OR A COMBINATION OF PHYTO-CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150320698 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIVARIN (CBDV) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150313867 ANTI-TUMOURAL EFFECTS OF CANNABINOID COMBINATIONS
20150209322 CHEWING GUM COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABINOIDS
20150203434 METHODS OF PREPARING CANNABINOIDS FROM PLANT MATERIAL
20150086653 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF CANCER
20140378539 CANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF NEUROPATHIC PAIN
20140377382 CANNABINOID-CONTAINING PLANT EXTRACTS AS NEUROPROTECTIVE AGENTS
20140343136 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF INTESTINAL INFLAMMATORY DISEASES
20140314757 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF BREAST CANCER
20140296351 PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION
20140287068 BREEDING, PRODUCTION, PROCESSING AND USE OF SPECIALTY CANNABIS
20140287067 ANTI-TUMOURAL EFFECTS OF CANNABINOID COMBINATIONS
20140243405 A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITION COMPRISING THE PHYTOCANNABINOIDS CANNABIDIVARIN (CBDV) AND CANNABIDIOL (CBD)
20140221469 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF CANCER
20140166028 Enhanced Delivery of Nicotine, THC, Tobacco, Cannabidiol or Base Alkaloid from an Electronic Cigarette or Other Vapor or Smoke Producing Device Through Use of an Absorption Conditioning Unit
20140166027 Enhanced Delivery of Nicotine, THC, Tobacco, Cannabidiol or Base Alkaloid from an Electronic Cigarette or Other Vapor Producing Device Through Use of an Absorption Conditioning Unit
20140155456 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIOL (CBD) IN COMBINATION WITH A STANDARD ANTI-EPILEPTIC DRUG (SAED) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20140107192 CANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF NEUROPATHIC PAIN
20140039043 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABIGEROL
20130296398 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIOL (CBD) IN COMBINATION WITH A STANDARD ANTI-EPILEPTIC DRUG (SAED) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20130245110 USE FOR CANNABINOIDS
20130245109 PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION
20130109747 PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION
20130059018 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF CANCER
20130006182 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS
20120328718 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS
20120245224 CANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF NEUROPATHIC PAIN
20120225136 INHIBITION OF TUMOUR CELL MIGRATION
20120165402 USE OF ONE OR A COMBINATION OF PHYTO-CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20120059062 COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABINOIDS FOR TREATMENT OF NAUSEA, VOMITING, EMESIS, MOTION SICKNESS OR LIKE CONDITIONS
20120004251 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIVARIN (CBDV) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20110230549 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS FOR THE TREATMENT OF PAIN
20110098348 CANNABIS SATIVA PLANTS RICH IN CANNABICHROMENE AND ITS ACID, EXTRACTS THEREOF AND METHODS OF OBTAINING EXTRACTS THEREFROM
20110097283 CHEWING GUM COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABINOIDS
20110082195 NEW USE FOR CANNABINOIDS
20110038958 USE OF CANNABINOIDS IN COMBINATION WITH AN ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICAMENT
20100323038 Pharmaceutical Compositions
20100317729 NEW PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION COMPRISING CANNABIDIOL AND TETRAHYDROCANNABIDIVARIN
20100292345 THERAPEUTIC USES OF CANNABIGEROL
20100286098 USE OF TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL AND/OR CANNABIDIOL FOR THE TREATMENT OF INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASE
20100249223 NEW USE FOR CANNABINOID-CONTAINING PLANT EXTRACTS
20100239693 CANNABINOID-CONTAINING PLANT EXTRACTS AS NEUROPROTECTIVE AGENTS
20100196488 Pharmaceutical Formulation
20100168448 Methods of Preparing Cannabinoids From Plant Material

Dont even get me started on "plant breeders rights".... patenting life forms should be illegal.

Assholes are trying to "own" everything...

This shit is not going to get any better for those of you who try to follow the ever-changing laws that are not in our benefit.

Go check your municipal codes... how many of you live where ALL HID lights must be outdoors and mounted in a specific enclosure no less than 10' from the ground?

You're probably already unlawful.

Man, Do you have any idea how long it would take me to wade through all of that??? Dyslexia sux!

Corvette Doc · Sep 7, 2016

Ganoderma said:
It's like the whole American Revolution all over. Instead of red coats we now have the blue coats, which out dear leaders have turned them into. The French revolted against the fat cats that owned everything, once upon a time.

So What are we going to do about it? ? ?

Well, i tried to tick off the pigs to get them to bust me over the cities bs green-house ban...i think they figured me out. If i can't get them to bust me i can't serve them counter suits...And yet some small part of me thinks this is sane??? I use to play back-up for a group called Justin-Sane...I think my life is circling.

Seaf0ur · Sep 8, 2016

Ganoderma said:
So What are we going to do about it? ? ?

I cant recommend anyone DO anything... but as for myself, I refuse to comply.

If someone were to come and try to force me to comply, I'd force them to get a warrant to enter my home.

If they did that, I may cut some plants.

If they caught me on a particularly bad day, I'd resist any attempt on their part to kidnap me or my property with force of violence.

I no longer accept the status quo, nor do I believe the police serve the people.

LostInEthereal · Sep 8, 2016

Seaf0ur said:
People have been farming since the dawn of man.

books that I have that were writ in 1870 are still as relevant today, if not more so... because these days we need to purify our toxic chemmed farmlands. We've come to a point where chems are damn near necessary in some places.... further salting the earth.

Let me know if the class comes with magic "pest-proof" underpants

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You wanna take a gardening class?

https://www.plantsbycreekside.com/gardening-workshops-events/gardening-classes/

25$

I hate the over-capitalization of this fucking "industry". It seems like "cannabis"-anything costs at least 20 times the amount of regular-anything.

Just to clarify it's not a gardening class, but thanks for the suggestion. I am sort of a novice but I would rather learn first-hand through failure right here at home (now that I'm a "cannabis immigrant", hehe). This course, and I'm no expert as I have yet to attend, is more focused on identification of variety through visual and olfactory cues, the psychoactive profile of the various cannabinoids and terpenes (the part I'm most interested in). I'm sure that for myself some will border on redundancy, but if I learn a thing or two and maybe leave with a friend or two, I'll call that a win.

Seaf0ur · Sep 8, 2016

LostInEthereal said:
.... This course, and I'm no expert as I have yet to attend, is more focused on identification of variety through visual and olfactory cues, the psychoactive profile of the various cannabinoids and terpenes (the part I'm most interested in). I'm sure that for myself some will border on redundancy, but if I learn a thing or two and maybe leave with a friend or two, I'll call that a win.

I absolutely agree on this, and the bottleneck of knowledge in this area is really in testing...
Currently the commonly available testing barely covers a infinitesimal amount of the potential contents of secondary terpenes...
See: Ethan Russo for some great sourcing on the entourage effect...
Problem is that he is involved in a joint that is interested in isolating and patenting compounds for sale so even that info is limited...

LostInEthereal · Sep 8, 2016

Thanks brother, I will look into his research. I'm aware of the entourage effect and I believe generally only about a dozen sometimes 2 dozen terpenes are quantified in cannabis samples, while around 250 have been found in in total.

Such a long way to go.

MileHighGlass · Sep 8, 2016

LostInEthereal said:
Thanks brother, I will look into his research. I'm aware of the entourage effect and I believe generally only about a dozen sometimes 2 dozen terpenes are quantified in cannabis samples, while around 250 have been found in in total.

Such a long way to go.

Your Carl Sagan quote is interesting however if this is all just a simulation then that view of our distant planet is about as real a Donald Trumps knowledge on anything but filing bankruptcy.

How was this relevant to anything anywhere? It wasn't

LostInEthereal · Sep 8, 2016

A simulated reality or one where the Donald is a legitimate presidential candidate.... I can't tell which I prefer lol

MJPassion · Sep 8, 2016

Seaf0ur said:
I know...
Here are more examples for those who dont wish to look this shit up themselves with links...

20160015682 TETRAHYDROCANNABIVARIN (THCV) FOR USE IN THE PROTECTION OF PANCREATIC ISLET CELLS
20150366154 BREEDING, PRODUCTION, PROCESSING AND USE OF SPECIALTY CANNABIS
20150359756 USE OF CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150359755 USE OF CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150359188 BREEDING, PRODUCTION, PROCESSING AND USE OF SPECIALTY CANNABIS
20150335590 USE OF ONE OR A COMBINATION OF PHYTO-CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150320698 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIVARIN (CBDV) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20150313867 ANTI-TUMOURAL EFFECTS OF CANNABINOID COMBINATIONS
20150209322 CHEWING GUM COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABINOIDS
20150203434 METHODS OF PREPARING CANNABINOIDS FROM PLANT MATERIAL
20150086653 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF CANCER
20140378539 CANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF NEUROPATHIC PAIN
20140377382 CANNABINOID-CONTAINING PLANT EXTRACTS AS NEUROPROTECTIVE AGENTS
20140343136 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF INTESTINAL INFLAMMATORY DISEASES
20140314757 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF BREAST CANCER
20140296351 PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION
20140287068 BREEDING, PRODUCTION, PROCESSING AND USE OF SPECIALTY CANNABIS
20140287067 ANTI-TUMOURAL EFFECTS OF CANNABINOID COMBINATIONS
20140243405 A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITION COMPRISING THE PHYTOCANNABINOIDS CANNABIDIVARIN (CBDV) AND CANNABIDIOL (CBD)
20140221469 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF CANCER
20140166028 Enhanced Delivery of Nicotine, THC, Tobacco, Cannabidiol or Base Alkaloid from an Electronic Cigarette or Other Vapor or Smoke Producing Device Through Use of an Absorption Conditioning Unit
20140166027 Enhanced Delivery of Nicotine, THC, Tobacco, Cannabidiol or Base Alkaloid from an Electronic Cigarette or Other Vapor Producing Device Through Use of an Absorption Conditioning Unit
20140155456 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIOL (CBD) IN COMBINATION WITH A STANDARD ANTI-EPILEPTIC DRUG (SAED) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20140107192 CANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF NEUROPATHIC PAIN
20140039043 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABIGEROL
20130296398 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIOL (CBD) IN COMBINATION WITH A STANDARD ANTI-EPILEPTIC DRUG (SAED) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20130245110 USE FOR CANNABINOIDS
20130245109 PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION
20130109747 PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION
20130059018 PHYTOCANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF CANCER
20130006182 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS
20120328718 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS
20120245224 CANNABINOIDS FOR USE IN THE TREATMENT OF NEUROPATHIC PAIN
20120225136 INHIBITION OF TUMOUR CELL MIGRATION
20120165402 USE OF ONE OR A COMBINATION OF PHYTO-CANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20120059062 COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABINOIDS FOR TREATMENT OF NAUSEA, VOMITING, EMESIS, MOTION SICKNESS OR LIKE CONDITIONS
20120004251 USE OF THE PHYTOCANNABINOID CANNABIDIVARIN (CBDV) IN THE TREATMENT OF EPILEPSY
20110230549 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOSITIONS FOR THE TREATMENT OF PAIN
20110098348 CANNABIS SATIVA PLANTS RICH IN CANNABICHROMENE AND ITS ACID, EXTRACTS THEREOF AND METHODS OF OBTAINING EXTRACTS THEREFROM
20110097283 CHEWING GUM COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABINOIDS
20110082195 NEW USE FOR CANNABINOIDS
20110038958 USE OF CANNABINOIDS IN COMBINATION WITH AN ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICAMENT
20100323038 Pharmaceutical Compositions
20100317729 NEW PHARMACEUTICAL FORMULATION COMPRISING CANNABIDIOL AND TETRAHYDROCANNABIDIVARIN
20100292345 THERAPEUTIC USES OF CANNABIGEROL
20100286098 USE OF TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL AND/OR CANNABIDIOL FOR THE TREATMENT OF INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASE
20100249223 NEW USE FOR CANNABINOID-CONTAINING PLANT EXTRACTS
20100239693 CANNABINOID-CONTAINING PLANT EXTRACTS AS NEUROPROTECTIVE AGENTS
20100196488 Pharmaceutical Formulation
20100168448 Methods of Preparing Cannabinoids From Plant Material

Dont even get me started on "plant breeders rights".... patenting life forms should be illegal.

Assholes are trying to "own" everything...

This shit is not going to get any better for those of you who try to follow the ever-changing laws that are not in our benefit.

Go check your municipal codes... how many of you live where ALL HID lights must be outdoors and mounted in a specific enclosure no less than 10' from the ground?

You're probably already unlawful.

This is one hell of a list of patents concerning cannabis plant products.
I find it ironic that Sam Skunkman, aka David Watson, has been insisting that there have been no patents against cannabis for at least a few years now, while at the same time working for the company, GW Pharma, that has filed most of the patents in this list.

I'm wondering if Sam deserves the respect he commands after this shit? I mean... from my perspective, he's been lying to the community about these patents!

Jbomber79 · Sep 8, 2016

SAM's a money grabber just like 90% of all these guys! And they will get there patent just like Mansanto... But I'll still have my seeds and cuts!!

Corvette Doc · Sep 8, 2016

Seaf0ur said:
I cant recommend anyone DO anything... but as for myself, I refuse to comply.

If someone were to come and try to force me to comply, I'd force them to get a warrant to enter my home.

If they did that, I may cut some plants.

If they caught me on a particularly bad day, I'd resist any attempt on their part to kidnap me or my property with force of violence.

I no longer accept the status quo, nor do I believe the police serve the people.

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I use to put shit on the PPDs web site till a couple of lawyers told me i was crossing into federal crimes... Well my facebook is about FREE SPEECH...If the pigs don't like it they should become firemen...https://www.facebook.com/todd.frederick.568
Now i just rock it out///https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fa4HUiFJ6c

mule420 · Sep 9, 2016

Someone used gas chromatography and mass spectrometry to figure out the chemical make up of weed right? How else do you think spice and the other synthetic compounds were made? What if a persons life work was stolen and what if that's how synthetic compounds came to be? People have very short memories, and now it was wiped from the internet forever...

LostInEthereal · Sep 9, 2016

mule420 said:
Someone used gas chromatography and mass spectrometry to figure out the chemical make up of weed right? How else do you think spice and the other synthetic compounds were made? What if a persons life work was stolen and what if that's how synthetic compounds came to be? People have very short memories, and now it was wiped from the internet forever...

Spice and the like were created through rational drug design (usually fulfilling a research need first, then a blackmarket), and most have little to do with the traditional cannabinoids (strictly structurally speaking). They merely act on CB1/CB2 in similar fashions (though most are full-agonist vs partial). This is the conclusion of my sciency sounding knowledge, hehe.

As a youth I spent a great deal of time consuming a vast array of psychedelics (well nearly everything) and indeed for a few months (trying to piss clean) using an array of synthetic cannabinoids.

mule420 · Sep 9, 2016

LostInEthereal said:
Spice and the like were created through rational drug design (usually fulfilling a research need first, then a blackmarket), and most have little to do with the traditional cannabinoids (strictly structurally speaking). They merely act on CB1/CB2 in similar fashions (though most are full-agonist vs partial). This is the conclusion of my sciency sounding knowledge, hehe.

As a youth I spent a great deal of time consuming a vast array of psychedelics (well nearly everything) and indeed for a few months (trying to piss clean) using an array of synthetic cannabinoids.

Having never done the synthetic compounds myself, I've seen a couple of videos a church group put out and it could have been a advertisment for the walking dead! Not to mention more then one attack in FL... When I was a teenager we would go to the hill in Boulder and get 100 lots of acid for $99... Less if you bought more...

rockymountainJ · Sep 9, 2016

mule420 said:
Having never done the synthetic compounds myself, I've seen a couple of videos a church group put out and it could have been a advertisment for the walking dead! Not to mention more then one attack in FL... When I was a teenager we would go to the hill in Boulder and get 100 lots of acid for $99... Less if you bought more...

Fckn yeah!! We must've been teens the same time!! 100 for a vial of liquid lavender on the hill.... 100 for 1/4 ounce bud, didn't have a name,so pretty that you had to cut up with sissors.... you didn't want to molest it!! Ah the dayzzzz...... Cheers mule!! Thanks for the stroll down memory lane!!!

LostInEthereal · Sep 9, 2016

I'll be honest some are quite good actually, LSD [LSD-25] is synthetic, so what really is the difference between 1P-LSD, ALD-52, besides metabolism for example. My cut-off is with cannabinoids, I can't stand the fake shit when the real stuff is too exquisite!

EDIT: The original sub-point to my first post was prohibition! It doesn't work.

mule420 · Sep 9, 2016

LostInEthereal said:
I'll be honest some are quite good actually, LSD [LSD-25] is synthetic, so what really is the difference between 1P-LSD, ALD-52, besides metabolism for example. My cut-off is with cannabinoids, I can't stand the fake shit when the real stuff is too exquisite!

I meant I haven't done the synthetic weed mixs...

mule420 · Sep 9, 2016

rockymountainJ said:
Fckn yeah!! We must've been teens the same time!! 100 for a vial of liquid lavender on the hill.... 100 for 1/4 ounce bud, didn't have a name,so pretty that you had to cut up with sissors.... you didn't want to molest it!! Ah the dayzzzz...... Cheers mule!! Thanks for the stroll down memory lane!!!

Looked like lime green Christmas trees. Came around once a year if you were lucky... Remember Black hash with the gold stamp $7 a gram...

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