NEW Colorado Growers Thread

[Corvette Doc]

WOW, you mean that all of my digestive problems might be from Azomax??? No-body has been able to find the root of my problems...If azomax is it then i don't know what else to use??? The docs have been bitching about my green dragon tea...i thought they were wrong???

 

[MJPassion]

WOW, you mean that all of my digestive problems might be from Azomax??? No-body has been able to find the root of my problems...If azomax is it then i don't know what else to use??? The docs have been bitching about my green dragon tea...i thought they were wrong???

I'm not saying the Aza products are or are not the cause of these symptoms but:
If you eat a diet thst contains GM foods you might change that first. GM foods can cause stomach perforations which allows undigested food into your blood stream causing all sorts of misunderstood/misdiagnosed symptoms.

If somebody tells me they have digestive issues this is the first suggestion I give. Have your doctor check you for a perforated stomach.

I've never noticed any symptoms from using Azatrol/Azamax myself and haven't seen any negative correlations reported either.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

WOW, you mean that all of my digestive problems might be from Azomax??? No-body has been able to find the root of my problems...If azomax is it then i don't know what else to use??? The docs have been bitching about my green dragon tea...i thought they were wrong???

You getting back pain, near your kidneys? What about intestinal pain which feels like gas bubbles, only you don't have gas to expel? How does a hot bath or shower feel, when the pain hits?

The green dragon tea is most likely helping, though also adding aza. Aza builds up in your body, lasts a lot longer then the cannabis you're using. The effects felt by people who are sensitive to it can take anywhere from a bowl to a half ounce of consumption.

I've grown clean and aza cannabis, sidy by side (it's definitely the aza which caused my digestive/pain issues), and the clean cannabis was extremely handy to have. The aza treated plants ended up being given to others who are not sensitive or aware of aza. Nasty stuff, for people who can feel it.

No, I don't eat a ton of GMO foods, and no I don't have a perforated stomach. I do have a digestive system which has now recovered from aza poisoning. It actually took a few years.

There are ways to treat plants safely, without aza. Main one being iso and water, new one being molasses/h2o2 and water? Still watching the thread on that one.

Awesome not to have an aza stomach anymore.

 

[PTSDAdvocateCO]

There are ways to treat plants safely, without aza. Main one being iso and water, new one being molasses/h2o2 and water? Still watching the thread on that one.

Awesome not to have an aza stomach anymore.

For mites, and aphids, I like citric acid, for mold I like potassium bicarbonate (related to baking soda but chemically different).

 

[Avinash.miles]

For mites, and aphids, I like citric acid, for mold I like potassium bicarbonate (related to baking soda but chemically different).

are you using powdered or liquid citric? and at what concentrations?

 

[PTSDAdvocateCO]

are you using powdered or liquid citric? and at what concentrations?

I use pure powdered food grade citric and create a solution of at least .05%, any more and you'll need to wash the plants afterwards to prevent Ph burn.

 

[Corvette Doc]

Well my bottle of Azamax is now shelved...
They have been testing me in so many ways since April. They actually found a couple of tests i had never heard of before.
So far the only thing they find is Basel Cell Carcinoma on my scalp, and there may be something flaring in my right lung again...they aren't sure because of all the scar tissue in there from having the lower lobe removed...My entire lung collapsed for almost a year before starting to work again...it hasn't been right since then(may 2011).
My digestive problems started almost 2 years ago and slowly got worse till last April when i checked my-self into an ER because i felt i was dying...Turned out i was right but it was my potassium level dropping WAY TOO low. Now i am stuck to the house from constant Diarrhea and sudden vomiting spells. The docs freaked out about it while i was in the Hospital...I felt sorry for the 2 nurses they made check my every bowl-movement...They actually got scared for me after a few days.
I haven't sprayed the aza in about 2 weeks...i almost did one today. How long will it remain in the plants? I don't expect to harvest till about Halloween.

I swore to myself that i would not use the Floramite this year...I hope the borg are done for the year...

And as for Molasses...i can't because it attracts ants. I use to feed them it while watering...Spraying it would attract every insect with-in half a mile. I can't believe that one can work.

 

[Avinash.miles]

if you brew molasses into teas it will be mostly processed by microbes before it hits your soil and shouldn't attract flies or bugs to your plants & soil....

 

[MJPassion]

You getting back pain, near your kidneys? What about intestinal pain which feels like gas bubbles, only you don't have gas to expel? How does a hot bath or shower feel, when the pain hits?

The green dragon tea is most likely helping, though also adding aza. Aza builds up in your body, lasts a lot longer then the cannabis you're using. The effects felt by people who are sensitive to it can take anywhere from a bowl to a half ounce of consumption.

I've grown clean and aza cannabis, sidy by side (it's definitely the aza which caused my digestive/pain issues), and the clean cannabis was extremely handy to have. The aza treated plants ended up being given to others who are not sensitive or aware of aza. Nasty stuff, for people who can feel it.

No, I don't eat a ton of GMO foods, and no I don't have a perforated stomach. I do have a digestive system which has now recovered from aza poisoning. It actually took a few years.

There are ways to treat plants safely, without aza. Main one being iso and water, new one being molasses/h2o2 and water? Still watching the thread on that one.

Awesome not to have an aza stomach anymore.

Sounds like Aza & a perforated stomach have similar symptoms.

Aza is an anti feedant so I'm not surprised by those results but what about those folks that use Neem as a regular part of their diet? Do they suffer from Azadiractin poisoning?

 

[Corvette Doc]

Neem oil poisoning is rare in adults. This report highlights the toxicity associated with neem oil poisoning in an elderly male. The patient presented with vomiting, seizures, metabolic acidosis, and toxic encephalopathy. The patient recovered completely with symptomatic treatment.

This is sounding similar to my problems.

And yet there are those that eat it, all the fed and state sites list is as non-toxic... i don't know what to think about it now.

 

[Ganoderma]

This is sounding similar to my problems.

And yet there are those that eat it, all the fed and state sites list is as non-toxic... i don't know what to think about it now.

Non-toxic if you don't have an allergy to _____

 

[who dat is]

This is sounding similar to my problems.

And yet there are those that eat it, all the fed and state sites list is as non-toxic... i don't know what to think about it now.

I don't know one way or the other but perhaps different effects for consumption vs. combustion in your system? Food for thought. Let us know what you find out regarding this please.

 

[Ganoderma]

consumption vs. combustion

 

[Corvette Doc]

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/neemgen.html

This one REALLY confuses me. It talks about it being very irritating to the stomach, then it goes on to say that Azadirachtin breaks down in light...That would mean that after a week or so it should all be gone.
Now is neem oil different enough in this conversation than the Azamax i have been using.
Years ago i sprayed neem-oil once...That stuff lingered forever and you could taste it. I have never had any remaining odor from the Azamax. I think the safersoap lingers longer to me. So i just don't know what to think.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Well my bottle of Azamax is now shelved...
They have been testing me in so many ways since April. They actually found a couple of tests i had never heard of before.
So far the only thing they find is Basel Cell Carcinoma on my scalp, and there may be something flaring in my right lung again...they aren't sure because of all the scar tissue in there from having the lower lobe removed...My entire lung collapsed for almost a year before starting to work again...it hasn't been right since then(may 2011).
My digestive problems started almost 2 years ago and slowly got worse till last April when i checked my-self into an ER because i felt i was dying...Turned out i was right but it was my potassium level dropping WAY TOO low. Now i am stuck to the house from constant Diarrhea and sudden vomiting spells. The docs freaked out about it while i was in the Hospital...I felt sorry for the 2 nurses they made check my every bowl-movement...They actually got scared for me after a few days.

It took me over 3 years to figure it out, I wasn't using it regularly. Clean out any resin from your smoking gear, get some non-aza cannabis asap. Sounds like you're overloaded.

I haven't sprayed the aza in about 2 weeks...i almost did one today. How long will it remain in the plants? I don't expect to harvest till about Halloween.

Longer than 70 days, from my experience. I only used 3-5ml/gal and sprayed as late as 2 weeks into flower. Disgustingly contaminated on 75 day strains.

And as for Molasses...i can't because it attracts ants. I use to feed them it while watering...Spraying it would attract every insect with-in half a mile. I can't believe that one can work.

Totally understand.

Sounds like Aza & a perforated stomach have similar symptoms.

Interesting. Good info to know when someone has these symptoms without aza exposure. It's awful, I can tall you this much.

Aza is an anti feedant so I'm not surprised by those results but what about those folks that use Neem as a regular part of their diet? Do they suffer from Azadiractin poisoning?

My wife found it interesting I had the same symptoms they describe it having for mites. Not interested in eating or breeding. lol

The first cases of CHS appeared shortly after aza was (successfully synthesized) OMRI certified and began being sold as an organicide for pests. Growers have used neem oil for a much longer time and nobody has ever had CHS during those times. I seriously doubt neem oil has the same effects.

 

[Jbomber79]

Headstash #1

Headstash #1

About one month left.. Love the look of these plants thick o'l pistols

 

[!RA!]

KOS Dark Matter & Centennial Seeds BaOx

KOS Dark Matter & Centennial Seeds BaOx

So I finally got around to putting some new seeds in the dirt. Started Dark Matter and BaOx. 100% germination within 6 days using the Rev's mellow mix, no wet paper towels or pre-soaking in water, just straight into the dirt. They're looking happy so fah. Will do some updates as they progress.

In the bottom pic the BaOx are on the left and Dark Matter on the right.

 

[who dat is]

Got to run around some cool spots about two weeks ago.

#coloradosuckstellyourfriends

 

[Avinash.miles]

whats that; garden of the gods & royal gorge.... where is that stained glass from?

 

[who dat is]

whats that; garden of the gods & royal gorge.... where is that stained glass from?

Bishops Castle. You have to go and visit there, that goes for everybody. A must see, hands down.

^This pic doesn't do it justice though. Apparently the top tower is 160 feet high and you can go to the very top of it. Pretty sketchy but so worth it.