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NEW Colorado Growers Thread

Nice buds.

I am freaking out over the weather.
No real heavy freeze in the Pueblo area makes me wonder when i should start fighting things...The hoppers scare me the most.
But i have already seen elm-beetles (mustard bugs)...And a few lady bugs. Since both have larval stages that look and act alike it makes it hard to fight one w/o hurting the other.
I have seen the ants starting too...
Should i put plants out early??? IDK.
Any body got advice on how to reschedule to match this weird weather?
I did learn that there is not enough available sun-light to fill out buds between Halloween and Thanksgiving. Most of what i got last year is worthless.
 

Avinash.miles

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Nice buds.

I am freaking out over the weather.
No real heavy freeze in the Pueblo area makes me wonder when i should start fighting things...The hoppers scare me the most.
But i have already seen elm-beetles (mustard bugs)...And a few lady bugs. Since both have larval stages that look and act alike it makes it hard to fight one w/o hurting the other.
I have seen the ants starting too...
Should i put plants out early??? IDK.
Any body got advice on how to reschedule to match this weird weather?
I did learn that there is not enough available sun-light to fill out buds between Halloween and Thanksgiving. Most of what i got last year is worthless.

if you are going to put out the nolo bait stuff to kill off the hoppers... now would probably be a good time to start
 

who dat is

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if you are going to put out the nolo bait stuff to kill off the hoppers... now would probably be a good time to start

I'll probably try throwing some out this year as well but I didn't see any effect with it last year. I think last year wasn't your typical year though. I hope to never see stuff like that again for several years at least. :2cents:
 

who dat is

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Nice buds.

I am freaking out over the weather.
No real heavy freeze in the Pueblo area makes me wonder when i should start fighting things...The hoppers scare me the most.
But i have already seen elm-beetles (mustard bugs)...And a few lady bugs. Since both have larval stages that look and act alike it makes it hard to fight one w/o hurting the other.
I have seen the ants starting too...
Should i put plants out early??? IDK.
Any body got advice on how to reschedule to match this weird weather?
I did learn that there is not enough available sun-light to fill out buds between Halloween and Thanksgiving. Most of what i got last year is worthless.

I'm kind of in the same boat as well. I have some plants I've been vegging forever that I decided I don't want to run indoors for seed runs while I'm working the very unstable Skunk 91 line. Those plants would be flowering right near the Skunk 91s and if some herm pollen started floating around it would compromise the other crosses I'm trying to make. I was planning on potting them up to 2 gallons from their 1 gallons they've been in forever. I've already hacked them back several times and they are right up there touching the bulb again. At this point I was thinking of hacking them back one more time, transplanting them to 2 gallons and let them get to where they are touching the bulb again. With doing that I'm looking at buying 2 weeks or so but then they have to go outside. I have my baby greenhouse I could set up and throw a heater in there on cold snap nights to keep them from freezing and then when frost danger has passed for the season I can put them in their full season homes. Decision time again...
 

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Since It warmed up I started up some of my preemptive bug prevention tactics. Last year while spraying box elder bugs around the outside of the house, I discovered that the box elder bugs never went back to the spots they where when I sprayed them at. They completely avoid the sprayed areas. I used a solution of neem oil, water and dish soap. In the next couple weeks I'm going to start spraying around the house to reduce the spider mite population, as the neighbors rose bushes between the houses is a hot spot for mites. I have found if I spray for pests around my garden location, it helps to reduce the chance on them making it to my plants.
 

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From what I've read on the Denver Post, the Med Registry is experiencing a back log on processing applications. They wait time is close to 2 months, instead of within a months time. I remember back in the day when I first applied, the wait time was 2 months before you'd get your Red card.

From what I've read the state is switching over to an on-line registry system and that is slowing things down. My initial opinion/reaction of hearing about this online registry makes me think it's a tool they will use against us, by allowing hackers to get into the system and get our data.
 

Seaf0ur

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From what I've read on the Denver Post, the Med Registry is experiencing a back log on processing applications. They wait time is close to 2 months, instead of within a months time. I remember back in the day when I first applied, the wait time was 2 months before you'd get your Red card.

From what I've read the state is switching over to an on-line registry system and that is slowing things down. My initial opinion/reaction of hearing about this online registry makes me think it's a tool they will use against us, by allowing DA GUB'MENT to get into the system and get our data.

Fixed that for ya.
 

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From what I've read on the Denver Post, the Med Registry is experiencing a back log on processing applications. They wait time is close to 2 months, instead of within a months time. I remember back in the day when I first applied, the wait time was 2 months before you'd get your Red card.

From what I've read the state is switching over to an on-line registry system and that is slowing things down. My initial opinion/reaction of hearing about this online registry makes me think it's a tool they will use against us, by allowing hackers to get into the system and get our data.


i've used the online registry
it's pretty simple and quick - way quicker than waiting on the state to process and send your card back
but
you don't get a "red card" ora purple card anymore you just print off a page from the online registry that is your med papers.....
 

Seaf0ur

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Are they still even doing extended counts? If so, how does that work with the online registry?
I'm way out of touch with the legal aspects...
 

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Are they still even doing extended counts? If so, how does that work with the online registry?
I'm way out of touch with the legal aspects...
yes docs still write extended plant couts
there is a part of the online procedure that the doc fills out (includes plant count and qualifying conditions)
and a part that the patient fills out
 

Ganoderma

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you don't get a "red card" ora purple card anymore you just print off a page from the online registry that is your med papers.....

That sounds like very bunk shit. How about me being able to do that with a Drivers license or other form of Gov I.D., I don't think that would fly with the cops when you hand them a printed piece of paper as your I.D. or D.L.
 

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The online registry will definitely be used by 'da gubment'. They even ask you on there how many plants you'll have and how much you think you'll produce.

No point in getting an extended plant count now thanks to HB17 1220, unless you have a commercial or agriculturally zoned spot. I think this won't take effect till 2018 but still.
 

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That sounds like very bunk shit. How about me being able to do that with a Drivers license or other form of Gov I.D., I don't think that would fly with the cops when you hand them a printed piece of paper as your I.D. or D.L.

agree 100%
just the further de-legitimization of med patients
 

Seaf0ur

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That sounds like very bunk shit. How about me being able to do that with a Drivers license or other form of Gov I.D., I don't think that would fly with the cops when you hand them a printed piece of paper as your I.D. or D.L.

You'd be surprised what flies when you know and can peacefully articulate your knowledge of the law...
although I suggest you've nowhere of import to go if you do this... it can take a lil while...

Embed related:

[youtubeif]6_3dDNPwJTU[/youtubeif]
 

Jbomber79

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What is the states course of action against those growing over the limit? Let's say they are 20 plants over is this a misdemeanor? Are they just chopping and moving on maybe a fine of sorts? I only know those people that got caught growing way outside there medical count and they got probation and fines, without good lawyers they probably would have gone to jail.
 

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Love that video Seafour, wish more people had the balls to stand up for there rights like those people.

The constitution is severely limited within 100 miles of any border.
Your "rights" go away because there are simply sooo many illegals,
and, as a citizen with lawful status, you are, simply put, less important than an illegal.
There is no such thing as a "undocumented worker"
What we have is citizens of foreign nations, trespassing!
If you break into my house, that does NOT make you my family.

constitutionfreezonemap.png


https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone

ACLU said:
The Problem


  • The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects Americans from random and arbitrary stops and searches.
  • According to the government, however, these basic constitutional principles do not apply fully at our borders. For example, at border crossings (also called "ports of entry"), federal authorities do not need a warrant or even suspicion of wrongdoing to justify conducting what courts have called a "routine search," such as searching luggage or a vehicle.
  • Even in places far removed from the border, deep into the interior of the country, immigration officials enjoy broad—though not limitless—powers. Specifically, federal regulations give U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) authority to operate within 100 miles of any U.S. "external boundary."
  • In this 100-mile zone, Border Patrol agents have certain extra-Constitutional powers. For instance, Border Patrol can operate immigration checkpoints.
  • Border Patrol, nevertheless, cannot pull anyone over without "reasonable suspicion" of an immigration violation or crime (reasonable suspicion is more than just a "hunch"). Similarly, Border Patrol cannot search vehicles in the 100-mile zone without a warrant or "probable cause" (a reasonable belief, based on the circumstances, that an immigration violation or crime has likely occurred).
  • In practice, Border Patrol agents routinely ignore or misunderstand the limits of their legal authority in the course of individual stops, resulting in violations of the constitutional rights of innocent people. These problems are compounded by inadequate training for Border Patrol agents, a lack of oversight by CBP and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the consistent failure of CBP to hold agents accountable for abuse. Thus, although the 100-mile border zone is not literally "Constitution free," the U.S. government frequently acts like it is.
Much of U.S. Population Affected


  • Many people think that border-related policies only impact people living in border towns like El Paso or San Diego. The reality is that Border Patrol's interior enforcement operations encroach deep into and across the United States, affecting the majority of Americans.
  • Roughly two-thirds of the United States' population lives within the 100-mile zone—that is, within 100 miles of a U.S. land or coastal border. That's about 200 million people.
  • Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont lie entirely or almost entirely within this area.
  • Nine of the ten largest U.S. metropolitan areas, as determined by the 2010 Census, also fall within this zone: New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego and San Jose.
Part of a Broader Problem


  • The spread of border-related powers inland is inseparable from the broader expansion of government intrusion in the lives of ordinary Americans. For example, CBP claims the authority to conduct suspicionless searches of travelers' electronic devices—such as laptops and cell phones—at ports of entry, including international arrivals at airports. These searches are particularly invasive as a result of the wealth of personal information stored on such devices. At least one circuit court has held that federal officers must have at least "reasonable suspicion" prior to conducting such searches and recent Supreme Court precedent seems to support that view.
  • These practices also coincide with the spread of numerous border technologies, including watch list and database systems (such as the Automated Targeting System traveler risk assessment program), advanced identification and tracking systems (including electronic passports), and intrusive technological schemes such as the "virtual border fence" and unmanned aerial vehicles (aka "drone aircraft"). With many of these technologies in the hands of private companies, there are powerful financial incentives for the continued "militarization" of the border zone.
  • The expansion of government power both at and near the border is part of a trend toward expanding police and national security powers without regard to the effect of such expansion on our most fundamental and treasured Constitutional rights. The federal government's dragnet approach to law enforcement and national security is one that is increasingly turning us all into suspects. If Americans do not continue to challenge the expansion of federal power over the individual, we risk forfeiting the fundamental rights and freedoms that we inherited—including the right to simply go about our business free from government interference, harassment and abuse.


Yeah... you'll see a whole lot of Texas boys telling checkpoint charlie to fuck off... its common.

Illegals would never have the balls to tell Border Patrol to get bent, so its an easy way to tell who is who.

I'd much rather have a giant wall with a moat than have no constitutional 4th amendment for the entire states of Michigan Maine & Florida
 
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