my 1000w "TV Armoire" stealth cabinet...

[Mr GreenJeans]

Nice job thescissors, looking real fine. Happy New Year!

 

[thescissors]

Nice job thescissors, looking real fine. Happy New Year!

Same to you and everyone else! may 07 bring you many nugs and zero LEO!

last night i saw my first AMBER trich, so we are getting closer!! might chop tonight, maybe...

 

[fiveminuteslate]

sissors....

great grow man... freaking super stealth... I am helping a buddy construct a super stealth box as well... I like this one over most I have seen...

One thing I suggest is that you run the 400s on flip/flop next time. It worked with two 600s in a 4x8 area...

the plants only need 6 hours of direct light each day.... therefore one 400 is on the first 6 hours of the day and the second one on the last 6 hours of the day.. therefore creating the effect of natural sunlight and getting great yield and efficiency... I think one of our "favorite" magazines had an article about this a month or two ago...

hope this helps... and man oh man... i must say again.. nice stealth..

btw... have you seen the Lsaver sativa pheno? I have one going in my stealth cab now that I am trying to make seeds with... I was told it is 65-70 days.. Its at day 43 now and looks like it still has a very long time to go...

-5minl8

 

[thescissors]

sissors....

great grow man... freaking super stealth... I am helping a buddy construct a super stealth box as well... I like this one over most I have seen...

One thing I suggest is that you run the 400s on flip/flop next time. It worked with two 600s in a 4x8 area...

the plants only need 6 hours of direct light each day.... therefore one 400 is on the first 6 hours of the day and the second one on the last 6 hours of the day.. therefore creating the effect of natural sunlight and getting great yield and efficiency... I think one of our "favorite" magazines had an article about this a month or two ago...

hope this helps... and man oh man... i must say again.. nice stealth..

btw... have you seen the Lsaver sativa pheno? I have one going in my stealth cab now that I am trying to make seeds with... I was told it is 65-70 days.. Its at day 43 now and looks like it still has a very long time to go...

-5minl8

well i dont know,, i dont think i have seen the sativa pheno. we CHOPPED tonight and have been sampling some toaster-oven buds (relatively slow-dry in toaster oven.) the one i took down was the DARK lifesaver. I took it because i started to see amber, albeit very little amber, but i figure this is its absolute peak of ripeness, so down she came. I will leave the light lifesaver one more night, i think. i might take it down in stages, actually. tomorrow i will also cycle the DWC into the flower box so it will be at day one. i may take the SOGTUB tomorrow too, or maybe let it go a week longer so we do have a lil couch/sleep meds on hand also. that might be what goes on with the light lifesaver too, take it down in stages, and let the lower buds go really long. looking at the dark lifesaver (the one we took down tonight), i could easily have let the lower buds go another week maybe. on the subject of the sativa pheno, i think my male that i pollenated the SECOND microsog (seedsog) with, might be sativa-ish. oh yeah, i almost forgot something! the buds were commented on as being GRAPE-ish. i made a drying box with a cardboard box and downwards-facing fan, and some mesh material for the screen. cut exhausts in the bottom/sides and instant dryer box. the box is about 2x2 and the screen is FULL of buds, from just the one plant. im not all that pleased with that since it seems like there was more potential there. i think i am going to go 100% hydro in the future. i can fit two DWCs in the left side "well" and probably four SWCs on the right side. i will have to run this as a 400w box at most now because of the electricity bill, and probably tone down the vegbox too. although we will be shutting this ALL down once this last run that im starting to put in this week is done flowering in late feb/early march. shut down and tear down, go back to storage cabinet (holding the lights/equipt in boxes most likely!!)

enjoying the LIFESAVER SMOKE!! by the way, very smooth, very nice, very pleasant high. VERY VERY balanced between up and down, although this what im smoking is from a couple of days ago.

here is a pic of the sativa-oriented?? daddy:




i guess that looks a bit indica too, anyways the resulting seeds should be interesting...

 

[fiveminuteslate]

about the flip flop method.. you would still be using the same amount of power on your electric bill, but you would get double the coverage area ( although the same as what your currently using) but would prevent you from mounting the light in the middle. By only using each bulb half of the normal 12 hour cycle you are getting the most for your money... its the same as running 1 bulb for 12 hours. so 2 bulbs for 6 hours each.....

great to hear about your lsaver report...

just got done drying what was cut last week... some NL x Grunk and some strain my friend likes to call "Sticky Fruit". boy does the SFruit smell and taste good, but that grunk is stoney.. and finished in 50 days...

sissors.. I have heard about people making seeds from a female clone by using 1 of several methods... This is what I am planning on doing with a single female clone running in the small cab. I am choosing to let the lsaver run longer over its ripening time to make it force seed production.. I have heard some strains do not do this but most do... do you have and experience with this? or do you have any other alternative methods at creating seeds for my future lsaver grows down the road... with bog not making seedstock anymore i dont want to loose this beautiful plant... and esp because its a rare sativa pheno... any help here would be hot...

-5minl8

 

[thescissors]

about the flip flop method.. you would still be using the same amount of power on your electric bill, but you would get double the coverage area ( although the same as what your currently using) but would prevent you from mounting the light in the middle. By only using each bulb half of the normal 12 hour cycle you are getting the most for your money... its the same as running 1 bulb for 12 hours. so 2 bulbs for 6 hours each.....

great to hear about your lsaver report...

just got done drying what was cut last week... some NL x Grunk and some strain my friend likes to call "Sticky Fruit". boy does the SFruit smell and taste good, but that grunk is stoney.. and finished in 50 days...

sissors.. I have heard about people making seeds from a female clone by using 1 of several methods... This is what I am planning on doing with a single female clone running in the small cab. I am choosing to let the lsaver run longer over its ripening time to make it force seed production.. I have heard some strains do not do this but most do... do you have and experience with this? or do you have any other alternative methods at creating seeds for my future lsaver grows down the road... with bog not making seedstock anymore i dont want to loose this beautiful plant... and esp because its a rare sativa pheno... any help here would be hot...

-5minl8

based on my recent experience and what i have read, creating a small light leak can/will produce hermie flowers on MANY strains. the "light" lifesaver had this problem, but i cut out the hermie spots and the buds just BLEW UP around the cut-out areas. i can only wonder what would have happened if i had left it alone (w/out the hermie issue)! i also killed the leaks, too, for the record. i got desperate/lazy and ended up with the electrical-tape-outside-the-leaking-joint method of correction.

this same pheno is cloned and in my DWC, which seems to have stalled in growth a bit. i went out and got some hygrozyme and subculture (and clearex for later) and added that to the bucket, and hopefully that will help it take off. actually so far i only added the hygrozyme in about half strength as i am about to do a res change as soon as i can get a new bubbler thing figured out for these types of buckets im using. i want to put a rubber perforated hose all around the outside ring of the bottom of the buckets to help keep the FLORANOVA nutes from "settling" down there. the floranova is full of all kinds of organic humics and goopy shit that tends to settle out of the solution. and there is a low part of the bucket bottom that the bubbler tubing can sit in and stir up the SH*T for me! well, it helps... normally i stir it with a huge stainless steel spoon once per day or so. so anyways, ive got some ideas on improving the situation but i need to wander the homedepot isles tomorrow..........




EDIT: That flip-flopper idea is actually sounding like a very good one, although just center-mounting a single light would be simpler... what im doing now is arranging the plants on the left side of the cab in like a stadium configuration, with the ones in the back basically climbing the wall of the cab back there, and the right-side light operating. so with a single bulb in the middle, id just mimick that idea but on both sides. problem with that is the DWC is going to have to go on the left no matter what, so i might start with the left side light on, then as the DWC gets bigger maybe move to a center light arrangement.

DWC is looking about the same. i raised the water level a bit and poured half-strength hygrozymed water through the lava rocks, to get those roots going with the hygrozyme-enzyme action. there is a lot of BS propaganda that goes on with these enzyme additives. AN claims over 80 different enzymes, but they are so full of hype i dont buy it. i went with the hygrozyme basically because ive heard of it used on IC.mag a lot with good results. ive got the clearex ready to go when i need to flush, and i will be using it on the soil plants at next watering.

i looked at the trichromes on the SOGtub (which has four dark and two light LS clones) and they are all still 100% cloudy. i am thinking i might have chopped the dark LS bush early, but that is OK because it will be nice to have a nice non-couch med for during the daytime. the light LS bush and the K-Train are both 100% cloudy as well. Its day-to-day on these ladies im tellin ya!! last two waterings have been clear water whereas the dark LS bush had only one watering with clear water. the sample quick-dry buds are a bit harsh but that may be because of that quick-dry aspect. plus im lighting my pipe with a propane torch instead of lighter due to not having a lighter on hand! kind of stupid, i know, but hey at least im consistent!


doubleEDIT: I also picked up a packet of SUBCULTURE, by GH, which has a ton of beneficials. with that and the hygrozyme i hope to kick some ass in the roots department, although so far its not looking all that great. i had high hopes for this Floranova as its 99% of the reason why im trying hydro again as last two times have been spectacular and disasterous failures. im just realizing as i sit here writing this that i might have the bucket in the wrong spot as its kind of near a heater vent, which i have closed and blocked with a piece of wood, but perhaps that is still warming the bucket enough to give me DO problems or something. heater is off now but i'll be sure to either tape up that vent (bitchin aluminum tape -- the REAL duct tape not that gummy crap!) or just move the bucket or both. yes i am high as a kite and therefore very talkative ergo typeative, and thus the many words!!

 

[KittyCropper]

I just noticed your rotisserie chicken tray in the veg cabinet. I happened to pick one up the other day and after eating it said to myself... "Self, that would be a perfect rooting dome."

 

[thescissors]

I just noticed your rotisserie chicken tray in the veg cabinet. I happened to pick one up the other day and after eating it said to myself... "Self, that would be a perfect rooting dome."

hmmm.. interesting idear.. i use upside-down sterilite "shoebox" storage trays for dome-age.

well, in other news, i changed out the water/nutes in my DWC. I actually have a second bucket that i had properly taped up with the aluminum tape I like so much, and i rigged a bubbler for it out of regular old 1/4" airline that i wrapped around the outside of the inside (if you will) of the bucket bottom a few times, strapped it together with tie-wraps, and drilled tiny holes every inch or so along the line. (edit: i also tie-wrapped some bent stainless steel spoons to the line to weigh it down..) so it goes around three times, and makes NICE bubbles. I am excited because i added:

2tsp/gal of FloraNova GROW
1/4tsp of GH SUBCULTURE
1tsp/gal of Floralicious Grow (got as sample @ hydro store)
hygrozyme (forget amount but followed label)

hopefully all that will get me going ... one more week of the veg nutes then i will go to the flower nutes. it should be in the flowerbox by then definitely.

TRICHROME WATCH continues! Tonight is day 56, so should be any day now!

 

[fiveminuteslate]

sissors...

are you collecting pollen from your males?

 

[thescissors]

sissors...

are you collecting pollen from your males?

only long enough to pollenate my girlz!! although, i have another daddy that i want to pollenate another round, so i might have to store some for maybe a week or two..

DWC with all the new stuff is taking off nicely!!

 

[raysputin]

for your soil temp problems put mylar over the top of them to reflect light at that early stage just cut a slit in it and put the stem in there. but I assume now with the growth you dont have as much of a soil temp problem.

 

[thescissors]

for your soil temp problems put mylar over the top of them to reflect light at that early stage just cut a slit in it and put the stem in there. but I assume now with the growth you dont have as much of a soil temp problem.

i used to do either that or just pour nice white perlite on top of the dirt... i am definitely making the switch to HYDRO once this soil grow is finished!

 

[thescissors]

Took a TON of pics...

Took a TON of pics...

this is only a few of them!!


this is the DWC one day after changing nutes/adding hygrozyme/subculture...



the fatherbox, sitting inside a walk-in closet and holding now my last father plant:





this is the now-only-400w flowerbox as of tonight... i need to move the light to the center of the box ASAP... prolly tomorrow night.



this is my latest attempt to get and keep viable POLLEN: wax-paper bags hanging from a nice ballsy branch (stripped of pollen-catching leaves, etc):



random male flower pics... (no i am not gay!! )






this is how INDICA-leaning that male plant is (all those pics are same last-LS daddy)

 

[thescissors]

I know i like pics...

I know i like pics...

maybe you do too!?


the DARK LIFESAVER, cut up and drying:


underside of chop-ee:


wimpy roots!!??


side view of LST action:


BUBBLES LOOK GOOD, NO??!!




more later ... going to move the right-side HPS to the middle of box tonight. last night i was still reading 100% cloudy... still waiting for some amber on light LS and K-train. I CLEAREX'd them both last night btw.

 

[sm0kateer4204]

awesome man.

 

[thescissors]

awesome man.

here are more pics:


the now-only-400w Flowerbox (have to try to save $$ on light bill!)



and pics of the "dark lifesaver" buds/trichs!!

 

[sm0kateer4204]

shit looks real dank, enjoy man

 

[fiveminuteslate]

sissors...

can you snap a photo of your airline?

you have a ton of bubbles in there.... I have always used airstones but I wonder if this would be more efficiant...

If I understand correctly you put holes every inch or so and just loop the hose and secure it down at the bottom of the bucket?

-5minl8

thanks!

 

[thescissors]

sissors...

can you snap a photo of your airline?

you have a ton of bubbles in there.... I have always used airstones but I wonder if this would be more efficiant...

If I understand correctly you put holes every inch or so and just loop the hose and secure it down at the bottom of the bucket?

-5minl8

thanks!

i think the reason why the bubbles were so awesome is because of how FEW bubble holes I had, but the problem with that, is they immediately began clogging up. I actually stumbled across the vaunted 1/4" soaker hose at homeDEpot and have since switched to that method. bubbles are plenty now, less "churning" due to lower air pressure (because of more exits) but still plenty of bubbles. i think my main issue at the moment is low res temps! i might add a cup of hot water to try to bring temps up (are currently in mid-50s!)

 

[thescissors]

more DWC pics...


here is the NEW bubbler...



and the bubbles!



top of the DWC bush:


side view (note density of bush!)


pathetic roots!!?? (been "rooting" for a few weeks now, that is, a root was showing below the rocks. before that, the clone was in the rocks for what seems like months!!! )


is this the reason (was in mid-50s before,,,)



i lightproofed the vegbox finally, and will be putting it into 12/12 service as of tomorrow night! (need to install the darkroom vents in floor tomorrow)...