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MSNBC says Obama to legalize

BushyOldGrower

Bubblegum Specialist
Veteran
Freedom is a hard won right. People have died over and over for it. The term is used very loosely by supposedly free countries when they criticize others but we imprison the highest percentage of our citizens over something as wonderful as cannabis. The safe alternative medicine meant for us all.
 
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Paco

If you have ever known a mormon you know who you are voting for. IMO. FUCk romney.
 

pimpmfdaddy

New member
bull shit

bull shit

Dont care, and they damn sure are not going to hang that in front of me for my vote.

Mitt looks like he wake and bakes all the tiem!
 

BushyOldGrower

Bubblegum Specialist
Veteran
Pres. Obama has delivered on most of his promises actually. Do we need to argue which party most drives the war on drugs?

After the election I suspect the president will soften the fed stand on medical mari.
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
BOG made a funny.
Well he did promise change-This is a pleasant change wouldn't you say?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...s-preparedness
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-ga...b_1370819.html
Martial Law by Executive Order

President Obama's National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order of March 16 does to the country as a whole what the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act did to the Constitution in particular -- completely eviscerates any due process or judicial oversight for any action by the Government deemed in the interest of "national security." Like the NDAA, the new Executive Order puts the government completely above the law, which, in a democracy, is never supposed to happen. The United States is essentially now under martial law without the exigencies of a national emergency.

Even as the 2012 NDAA was rooted in the Patriot Act and the various executive orders and Congressional bills that ensued to broaden executive power in the "war on terror," so the new Executive Order is rooted in the Defense Production Act of 1950 which gave the Government powers to mobilize national resources in the event of national emergencies, except now virtually every aspect of American life falls under ultimate unchallengeable government control, to be exercised by the president and his secretaries at their discretion.

The 2012 NDAA deemed the United States a "battlefield," as Senator Lindsey Graham put it, and gave the president and his agents the right to seize and arrest any U.S. citizen, detain them indefinitely without charge or trial, and do so only on suspicion, without any judicial oversight or due process. The new Executive Order states that the president and his secretaries have the authority to commandeer all U.S. domestic resources, including food and water, as well as seize all energy and transportation infrastructure inside the borders of the United States. The Government can also forcibly draft U.S. citizens into the military and force U.S. citizens to fulfill "labor requirements" for the purposes of "national defense." There is not even any Congressional oversight allowed, only briefings.

In the NDAA, only the president had the authority to abrogate legitimate freedoms of U.S. citizens. What is extraordinary in the new Executive Order is that this supreme power is designated through the president to the secretaries that run the Government itself:

• The Secretary of Defense has power over all water resources;
• The Secretary of Commerce has power over all material services and facilities, including construction materials;
• The Secretary of Transportation has power over all forms of civilian transportation;
• The Secretary of Agriculture has power over food resources and facilities, livestock plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment;
• The Secretary of Health and Human Services has power over all health resources;
• The Secretary of Energy has power over all forms of energy.

The Executive Order even stipulates that in the event of conflict between the secretaries in using these powers, the president will determine the resolution through his national security team.

The 2012 NDAA gave the Government the right to abrogate any due process against a U.S. citizen. The new Executive Order gives the government, through the Secretary of Labor, the right to proactively mobilize U.S. citizens for "labor" as the government deems necessary and to coordinate with the Secretary of Defense to maintain data to coordinate the nation's work needs in relation to national defense.

What is extraordinary about the Executive Order is that, like the NDAA, this can all be done in peacetime without any national emergency to justify it. The language of the Order does not state that all these extraordinary measures will be done in the event of "national security" or a "national emergency." They can simply be done for "purposes of national defense," clearly a broader remit that allows the government to do what it wants, when it wants, how it wants, to whomever it wants, all without any judicial restraint or due process. As Orwell famously said in 1984, "War is peace. Peace is war." This is now the reality on the ground in America.

Finally, the 2012 NDAA was hurried through the House and Senate almost like a covert op with minimal public attention or debate. It was then signed by the president at 9:00 PM on New Year's Eve while virtually nobody was paying attention to much other than the approaching new year. This new Executive Order was written and signed in complete secret and then quietly released by the White House on its website without comment. All this was done under a president who studied constitutional law at Harvard.

It is hard to know what to say in the face of such egregious disregard for the integrity of what America has stood and fought for since its founding. It is hard in part because none of us thought such encroachments would ever happen here, certainly not under the watch of a "progressive" like Obama.

At one level, the prospect for war with Iran is probably an immediate justification. But the comprehensiveness of the Executive Order, like that of the 2012 NDAA, speaks to something much deeper, more sinister. I would suggest that this Order, like the NDAA, has been in the works for some time and is simply the next step in the logic of the "global war on terror." Our political elites have come to consider democracy an impediment to effective governance and they are slowly and painstakingly creating all the democratic legalities necessary to abridge our democratic rights with impunity, all to ensure our "security." Of such measures do republics fall and by such measures tyrants emerge.

The only thing that really remains is the occasion to test the new rules of the game. Perhaps that will be war with Iran, perhaps some contrived emergency, or perhaps, as long as the public and media remain asleep, no occasion will be necessary at all. It will just slowly happen of its own accord and we, like the frog in the pot of slowly boiling water, will just sit there and be consumed by our own turpitude.
 
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resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
Dagnabit you got to remember BOG doesn't get out much. It's hard to keep up with current events when you live "IN a cave in the Rocky Mountains"
 

Jellyfish

Invertebrata Inebriata
Veteran
all media is just mind control
Then your sig says, "A closed mind is an empty mind"

I don't understand why everybody is neg-repping the OP. Have you all CLOSED your minds to the possibility? IF so, then you must have an EMPTY mind. :tiphat:
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
Haven't neg repped the OP or anyone else, ever, for that matter. Just been around long enough to know the difference between shit and shineola. The media slings shit and Obama is the master of shineola.
 
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LumpStatus

Pres. Obama has delivered on most of his promises actually. Do we need to argue which party most drives the war on drugs?

After the election I suspect the president will soften the fed stand on medical mari.

51% is most....is that a great track record?

He promised change....and change we got indeed. If we have 4 more years of his change you can kiss all your hard earned money goodbye. It won't be worth anything. Can you imagine how much debt we will be in by the end of his second term? How much more money will we send to countries to fund them killing us?

Why would anyone be so crazy to think that Obama's send term will be better than his first? Will he suddenly realize that medical marijuana is ok the same way he did with being gay? I'm not convinced....

This country has more important issues than mmj to deal with right now...

Didn't Paul Ryan say that he believes states should be able to make their own policies regarding medical marijuana and feds shouldn't interfere? I thought I heard something similar...
 

Jellyfish

Invertebrata Inebriata
Veteran
Didn't Paul Ryan say that he believes states should be able to make their own policies regarding medical marijuana and feds shouldn't interfere? I thought I heard something similar...

He said it, then he quickly redacted, LOL. Let's get real- who is more likely to show sympathy towards legalization, the Democrats or the Republicans? Every American knows the answer to that shit!
 
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Alone

President Barrack Hussein Obama just sold America out to the Russians when the cameras, he thought were off, where still rolling and the sound was still on!!!!!!!
America will perish in the hands of the Masons and the Illuminate.
All who take part in its sins will perish with it.
The American Dream is from Satan and will perish with him.
Get ready. I can hear deaths army marching towards our country.
The only reason God built up our country was to protect Isreal.
Just like God raised up Egypts Pharaoh to help the surrounding country's during the famine and to build up its gold and money to give to the jews he set free through Moses, only to destroy them in the end for Pharaoh's arrogance against God, and his rebellion against God and Gods people, so will America be.
God raised America up, in His name, for a time such as this...and now we pushed God away from our government and turned to money as our god. We will soon serve our purpose to help Isreal very, very soon, and then we will be destroyed. Just like Pharaoh in Egypt.
 
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LumpStatus

He said it, then he quickly redacted, LOL. Let's get real- who is more likely to show sympathy towards legalization, the Democrats or the Republicans? Every American knows the answer to that shit!

Neither party. The Obama administration has proven that.

Which party is responsible for shutting down the most dispensaries? Which party is allowing the federal government to proceed with seizing property from owners who thought mmj was legal in this state.

My vote will not go to whoever is going to do the best thing for mmj, but instead to the most likely candidate to pull us out of this hole that we are in. We only have 2 choices technically, but only 1 has any chance of turning things around.
 

Jellyfish

Invertebrata Inebriata
Veteran
President Barrack Hussein Obama just sold America out to the Russians when the cameras, he thought were off, where still rolling and the sound was still on!!!!!!!
America will perish in the hands of the Masons and the Illuminate.
All who take part in its sins will perish with it.
The American Dream is from Satan and will perish with him.
Get ready. I can hear deaths army marching towards our country.
The only reason God built up our country was to protect Isreal.
Just like God raised up Egypts Pharaoh to help the surrounding country's during the famine and to build up its gold and money to give to the jews he set free through Moses, only to destroy them in the end for Pharaoh's arrogance against God, and his rebellion against God and Gods people, so will America be.
God raised America up, in His name, for a time such as this...and now we pushed God away from our government and turned to money as our god. We will soon serve our purpose to help Isreal very, very soon, and then we will be destroyed. Just like Pharaoh in Egypt.

Wow, you seem to know a lot. Tell us what to do, if you please.:laughing:
 

eastbeast

Member
The only things that will change post-election will be social issues.

If anybody here thinks that the economy will get better it will not.
Regardless of who gets elected. It will get worse.
Zero changes have been made and zero changes will be made to the federal reserve and the social security programs.
Congress is and will still be deadlocked.

Anybody who thought that things were supposed to magically get better after 2008 and continue to hold the president accountable are delusional and misinformed.

The only public policies that will change are social policies.
Vote or do not vote accordingly.

http://www.zerohedge.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 

Jellyfish

Invertebrata Inebriata
Veteran
The only things that will change post-election will be social issues.

If anybody here thinks that the economy will get better it will not.
Regardless of who gets elected. It will get worse.
Zero changes have been made and zero changes will be made to the federal reserve and the social security programs.
Congress is and will still be deadlocked.

Anybody who thought that things were supposed to magically get better after 2008 and continue to hold the president accountable are delusional and misinformed.

The only public policies that will change are social policies.
Vote or do not vote accordingly.

http://www.zerohedge.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Who are you, frikkin' God? You speak with a lot of authority for a stoner on ICMAG. Watching a lot of scary Youtube videos doesn't make you an expert on politics, ya know.
 
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