MotherLode Gardens 2017

[jidoka]

Butte talked about influencing cytokinins vs auxin hormones. If you see that as "topping" you are mistaken

 

[plantingplants]

Jidoka have i got this right:

1) higher cytokinin to auxin ratio means more aboveground growth while the reverse means more root growth

2) auxin is concentrated in apical meristems

3) remove apical meristems to decrease auxin (to increase cy:au ratio) and increase aboveground shoot formationto increase bud sites

Or 4) skip the plant damage and just add cytokinin in the form of something like fish aminos?

 

[OrganicDisciple]

Jidoka have i got this right:

1) higher cytokinin to auxin ratio means more aboveground growth while the reverse means more root growth

2) auxin is concentrated in apical meristems

3) remove apical meristems to decrease auxin (to increase cy:au ratio) and increase aboveground shoot formationto increase bud sites

Or 4) skip the plant damage and just add cytokinin in the form of something like fish aminos?

Is it just snake oil to add coconut water. Very high in Potassium but I've read many times it has lots cytokinin in it.

 

[growingcrazy]

Run a couple plants with a mix of kelp and corn SST. Once a week from now till stack.

 

[Shcrews]

Youll find your own reason to use them. They dont have to be too complicated. Just think of them like ph or ppm meters. In my case, i had a deficiency and i thought maybe i could at least see if i had enough nitrate in the leaves so i could eliminate the possibility of N deficiency. It gets complicated after that but at the bottom of it, i know theres enough nitrogen and too much K which means not enough of some other shit. Means i dont overfeed N. And I know what you mean by station now. It gets annoying sitting in the dirt trying to write down data and press and measure sap. Need a desk up there lmao

Fortunately we havent had many issues yet this season, but i do want to start tracking sap numbers and try to learn how to make micro adjustments on the fly instead of just following a recipe and hoping everything goes well. Workstation for me means a table/desk with a laptop and usb microscope, and of course a logbook for tracking data. coming soon.. maybe. At least i have time now.

Get an orchard ladder! Mizer told me about them last year and i can hang out on that thing all day on a hill by myself if you set it right.

i looked everywhere locally for an orchard ladder but couldnt find one and i dont trust the internet for ordering stuff like that, so might just wait until next year but it's definitely on my wish list.

Right there with you on trellising. Waiting for my late worker right now. Hopefully gonna crush it all out today before any more branches break :/

we finished the trellis wrap yesterday, took almost a week to do all the mounds and we didnt even do the tops yet, just a vertical wrap. Just in time too, the plants needed some support for sure, some of the bigger ones are already growing through the new nets..

 

[Shcrews]

What do you mean by lanky and did you top just the top or all branches? I always have some lanky plants without many tops. Do you think it's too late to top now?

If the main shoot of a plant is taking off vertically like a sunflower and the lateral branches lag behind then i will top the plant by pinching the main growth tip. Usually only have to do this once , and only on really lanky plants.

Its not too late to top now for full-season plants, i just pinched a couple of mine back last week because i wasnt happy with their structure and now they are getting fuller with better branching.

Butte reccomended pruning outdoor plants for high yield in the The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...saying its about number of bud sites/tops that is key to high yields. Attached are screenshots from that thread showing his plants and explanation.

That is the same way ive been topping my outdoor plant this season, and its filled out very evenly to a nice round bush.

It's a good technique but definitely depends on the plant... A lot of mine this year grew into globes without being topped. good sun exposure helps.

 

[Shcrews]

Space Monkey x Ancient OG

Space Monkey x Ancient OG

I like this cross so far, very vigorous and with such a good lineage it's sure to be some fire.

 

[Shcrews]

Kaya's Dream (South Fork Seeds)

Kaya's Dream (South Fork Seeds)

she about 9 feet tall and just as wide..

 

[Shcrews]

Ancient OG f2's

Ancient OG f2's

the Ancient OG f2 seeds i made last year are really taking off:

 

[Shcrews]

Black Lime Reserve x Ancient OG

Black Lime Reserve x Ancient OG

This is a great cross. perfect structure and all the vigor.

 

[Ibechillin]

Hey Schrews I read earlier in your thread you mentioned your mounds were around 12 ft in diameter and 18" tall.

How much of a mound do the plants roots usually fill into? Do feeder roots reach out 12 ft across???

 

[Shcrews]

(Blue Dream x (Sour Diesel x Durban Poison) x Chemdog - South Fork Seeds

(Blue Dream x (Sour Diesel x Durban Poison) x Chemdog - South Fork Seeds

these are doing great

 

[Shcrews]

Upper Plot

Upper Plot

 

[Shcrews]

Lower Plot

Lower Plot

 

[Shcrews]

Native Soil Plot

Native Soil Plot

the larger ones were planted last week of may, the smaller ones went in about a month later. Plant health is great so far, everything is nice and green especially now since we installed the irrigation. no amendments, no topdressing, just a weekly foliar and it looks like we just might make it thru to harvest ..

 

[Shcrews]

Hey Schrews I read earlier in your thread you mentioned your mounds were around 12 ft in diameter and 18" tall.

How much of a mound do the plants roots usually fill into? Do feeder roots reach out 12 ft across???

I have no idea. i never check. the more soil the better...

 

[~star~crash~]

incredible work! thanks for taking the time to post up pics from your life...peace

your dedication is inspirational...

 

[plantingplants]

Huge dude!!! Man those are going to finish just massive.

Everyone thanks for the topping tips. I think i am finally understanding this stuff.

Keep checking craigslist for an orchard ladder- that's how i found mine.

 

[toxic hippie]

Stellar grow schrews!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Look at that sexy shirtless guy peeking through the foilage! What a hunk! LOL!