MotherLode Gardens 2016

[BAKED_BEANZ]

george cervantes
cannabis stems turn red for a variety of reasons , cold temperatures bellow 10 deg c . cause the supply of phosphorous to diminish , which in turn causes leafs and stems and later main stems to turn purple .however they also turn purple when phosphorous is in short supply due to toxic fertiliser salt build up in the soil . nitrogen deficiency can also cause leaf and stems to discolour .

>>>>>>>>>plants can also have a genetic predisposition to grow purple stems , some strains of cannabis ALWAYS grows purple stems regardless of environmental conditions .<<<<<<<<


this guy was probably rolling joints and growing weed before most of you were a twinkle in your dads eye but lets disprove him too ..... why the hell not

@shrews your ancient breeding project sounds very worthy .
@cat710 though your delivery method is very direct , your information is always very good . cheers

 

[oct]

Cervantes should be put in jail for all the stupidity and misinformation he puts out.........joking on the jail. Absolute seriousness on the stupidity and misinformation. It's that bad.

 

[jidoka]

Haha...80% of all grow problems start with Jorge said

 

[slownickel]

Haha...80% of all grow problems start with Jorge said

How funny. I know who wrote all of Jorges' fertilizer programs.... LMAO.

 

[caterpillar710]

george cervantes
cannabis stems turn red for a variety of reasons , cold temperatures bellow 10 deg c . cause the supply of phosphorous to diminish , which in turn causes leafs and stems and later main stems to turn purple .however they also turn purple when phosphorous is in short supply due to toxic fertiliser salt build up in the soil . nitrogen deficiency can also cause leaf and stems to discolour .

>>>>>>>>>plants can also have a genetic predisposition to grow purple stems , some strains of cannabis ALWAYS grows purple stems regardless of environmental conditions .<<<<<<<<


this guy was probably rolling joints and growing weed before most of you were a twinkle in your dads eye but lets disprove him too ..... why the hell not

@shrews your ancient breeding project sounds very worthy .
@cat710 though your delivery method is very direct , your information is always very good . cheers

Okay, I'll disprove him. The blanket statement that some genetics make purple stems no matter what is incorrect. How is it that lines like purple urkle or Tangie that make solid purple flowers can make green or purple stems ? Nutrients.

Straight up, look at nova crop control work with berries. They will show different varieties have a different metabolic affinity for various elements.

It's possible that through selection dj short chose plants that don't process nutrients well and one thing that leads me to that conclusion is the percentage of plants that come up with variegation and leaf mutation. Problems I've now linked to micronutrient issues. I'm willing to guess blueberry sucks at taking up zinc and manganese and that's why it grows crappy misshapen leaves and purple stems

 

[jidoka]

How funny. I know who wrote all of Jorges' fertilizer programs.... LMAO.

Shhhh. Don't give my secret away

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

fuck , someone says something wrong round here , you all want to band together rape the person , wtf

i really thought the idea was to be a community ? but its seem everyone wants to jump on the person that steps out of line .
i,m really glad you guys carry on like your superior to others ...... congrats .

bloody joyful bunch you are , lol

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

Okay, I'll disprove him. The blanket statement that some genetics make purple stems no matter what is incorrect. How is it that lines like purple urkle or Tangie that make solid purple flowers can make green or purple stems ? Nutrients.

Straight up, look at nova crop control work with berries. They will show different varieties have a different metabolic affinity for various elements.

It's possible that through selection dj short chose plants that don't process nutrients well and one thing that leads me to that conclusion is the percentage of plants that come up with variegation and leaf mutation. Problems I've now linked to micronutrient issues. I'm willing to guess blueberry sucks at taking up zinc and manganese and that's why it grows crappy misshapen leaves and purple stems

i,m definitely coming round to your way of thinking , i certainly see your point .

 

[methods]

Okay, I'll disprove him. The blanket statement that some genetics make purple stems no matter what is incorrect. How is it that lines like purple urkle or Tangie that make solid purple flowers can make green or purple stems ? Nutrients.

Straight up, look at nova crop control work with berries. They will show different varieties have a different metabolic affinity for various elements.

It's possible that through selection dj short chose plants that don't process nutrients well and one thing that leads me to that conclusion is the percentage of plants that come up with variegation and leaf mutation. Problems I've now linked to micronutrient issues. I'm willing to guess blueberry sucks at taking up zinc and manganese and that's why it grows crappy misshapen leaves and purple stems

Finally the genie I have been looking for!

I have been trying diligently to understand how P is for lack of words a mother. If she is at the right levels at the right time then alot of the macro and micro minerals become affective.

Why Cal Boron and mag need to be discussed together I think to be honest.....
Those that do not know look at the label on fox farms come back formula. The %'s are really high on boron and the other 2 that work hand in hand. You can have more than the plant needs but lack a mineral and hit a bottle neck.

Cat yeah I think I need to make a thread. There is alot I am just know trying to understand and its all the minerals, aminno's ect.Not sure if I am on track but here is a short thought on a broad topic....

SChrews looking like your dillagence is coming through and re3ally stepping the game up. Thanks so much for those of us tucked indoors trying to wrap our brains around the macro and micro's. To see you go seed to chop has really unlocked alot for many and a inspiration for all.
great work, safe chopty chop
Aluminum can make it toxic...Now can aluminum turn the purple strains more to the blue like a hydrangea?

 

[caterpillar710]

It isn't my way is the right way, or that I have my own anything... or even that I'm trying to make a point.

Everything I know I learned from someone or read it and combine it with my experiences.

It's just science. Good science or bad.

 

[usually]

It isn't my way is the right way, or that I have my own anything... or even that I'm trying to make a point.

Everything I know I learned from someone or read it and combine it with my experiences.

It's just science. Good science or bad.

Don't be a farmer then. Nothing's permanent for a farmer

gotcha.

thats not the farmer game hommie. lmao.

<so high and drunk rite now.

 

[Avenger]

https://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/66/10/2889.full

 

[reppin2c]

fuck , someone says something wrong round here , you all want to band together rape the person , wtf

i really thought the idea was to be a community ? but its seem everyone wants to jump on the person that steps out of line .
i,m really glad you guys carry on like your superior to others ...... congrats .

bloody joyful bunch you are , lol

Well ya. My employee is now immune to ball busting, he grew a spine and thick skin over 2 years.

Cat-I'm picking thru DJ BB right now. I was thinking they where selected to feed like shit. Kinda funny you said that.

I really hope usually is gone forever

 

[oct]

fuck , someone says something wrong round here , you all want to band together rape the person , wtf
i really thought the idea was to be a community ? but its seem everyone wants to jump on the person

Your part of the community buddy. Don't you fret.

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

ok
hears comment from chimera , i,m more interested in the facts more than to disprove anyones beliefs here , by the way !
QUOTE.
" I didn't read the link but red stems is a genetic trait, people just like to repeat things they've heard it makes them feel smart if people repeat the same things.
Cheers Beanz "

i guess he did,nt need to buy the ticket , to enjoy the ride .

@ cat i,m in full belief what your saying and are totally correct in a lot of cases red stem translates to P , i believe in some cases pheno,s in certain strains have this trait . we don't need to agree or be right . we can both think what we like i guess ,

@oct , your very talented , you must be a real hoot at parties .
@milky & slow , what do you pair of rocket scientists have to say about chimera, any little girly laughs or jokes ?

and i guess the biggest mistake anyone is going to make is , that i,m even bothered by the comments ,

 

[jidoka]

I am giggling a little bit. Imo get nutrition right for a particular pheno and voila...no mo red stems. I just now am gathering data on multiple strains. Let you know in a yr or so

 

[Shcrews]

QUOTE.
" I didn't read the link but red stems is a genetic trait, people just like to repeat things they've heard it makes them feel smart if people repeat the same things.
Cheers Beanz "

i dont like when people try to analyze other people's psyche, or claim to know somebody else's motives for doing what they do.

 

[jidoka]

What i am giggling about is that naming one well known name after another and citing it as fact is the definition of bro science. In my experience bro science leads to bad results.

Chimera could be absolutely right. But without seeing his design of experiment and data i really have no clue.

But i have a different hypothesis and access to enough strains to determine std deviation for this trait in a single soil. Once i determine that i will know what sample size of red stem strains i need to collect to see if i can fix them with altered nutrition

I will use the sap meters i have to gather as much data as possible

 

[Shcrews]

jidoka scientific method on fleek

 

[Lester Beans]

Blueberry phenos can be fed to death and still carry red stems.

I agree most red stems is P, but there are some that are genetic.