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Ancient OG

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[mako44]

I tried clones outside a few times,& they never came out to great!(well compared to the seed plants i grow) I had a seed wifi plant that was a super frosty nice bud size & structure so i cloned it & grew it , it was probably great to some peoples standards but to me it kind of sucked ,,, If i had no other plants i probably would say it was killer, but since i do have other plants from seeds that is- i say it sucked ! Compared to mother plant it was full of small buds yes very frosty & tons of them, But the size of them sucked !! so i would say yes you can get some nice frosty buds from a clone ,if you can get over the suckEE size of them !!!But I will pass !!!

 

[Shcrews]

you know what I'm sayin' here is the amateurs grows from seeds.

all the professional guys uses selected clones.

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how much do you have to grow per year to be considered a professional?

 

[Lochinvar]

at least a million

 

[HL45]

you know what I'm sayin' here is the amateurs grows from seeds.

all the professional guys uses selected clones.

easier to grow big plants from seeds btw. you just sow it some re-pot and ready. clone growing is much more complicated but you know what you grow.

Well we all know where selected clones come from..so professionals get their professional selections from amateur seed poppers? Or is it easier for amateurs to grow bigger plants from seed compared to professional growers with their selected clones.



Jk jk no harm no foul.

I couldn't say either way is a more professional or amateur way to grow...but all the professional growers I see are popping lots of seeds looking for gems, and I would say it's easier to grow a big plant from a clone that you know is going to produce vs a seed that may or may not produce. Yes seedlings have vigor but big in size doesn't always equate to big in yield.

 

[xmobotx]

i like clones for an indoor grow ~especially perpetual. consistency can be pretty important for light clearance & space considerations. not so sure that it's preferable in a long haul, 1 harvest per season, outdoor scenario

maybe you should start in january for the 'stepford' plants

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

how much do you have to grow per year to be considered a professional?

when do you ? its going to be different for everyone .

to me your a pro when , your someone like

bodhi , chimera , karma . making your own seed lines that are worthy of growing . and that people enjoy growing . these are just 3 guys theres so many more .

i,m not sure its really got to do with how much you grow . i think its more your knowledge that makes you professional not the amount you grow

how can you take credit for how much you grow , if your growing someone else,s work ? i think there the pro,s .

by the way , this isn't directed at you shcrews . its my opinion to your question .

 

[Lester Beans]

Professional translates to doing something for a living, for money. Being a part of a profession. It doesn't mean that you are automatically brilliant. You can be dumb as fuck and do it for a living, and be considered a professional. So I don't see how that comment is relevant, @NAG.

Professionals grow from seed or clone, either way no difference in difficulty, as it is simply raising a plant. A seed plant however, will out preform a clone in the out of doors most of the time.

That said, anybody notice Dank.Frank took the time to drop some serious knowledge? That's some excellent advice right there.

 

[Shcrews]

to me your a pro when , your someone like

bodhi , chimera , karma . making your own seed lines that are worthy of growing . and that people enjoy growing . these are just 3 guys theres so many more .

those guys arent just professional growers, they are breeders. maybe you dont understand what professional means i think:

Professional translates to doing something for a living, for money. Being a part of a profession. It doesn't mean that you are automatically brilliant. You can be dumb as fuck and do it for a living, and be considered a professional. So I don't see how that comment is relevant

exactly^

how can you take credit for how much you grow , if your growing someone else,s work ? .

thats a strange question/statement. everything that has ever been achieved was built on the foundation of somebody else's hard work. and taking credit is a weird concept anyway. i dont really understand where your head is at brother... Do you also think professional corn farmers should breed their own corn so they can take credit for growing corn?"

That said, anybody notice Dank.Frank took the time to drop some serious knowledge? That's some excellent advice right there.

i noticed. thanks frank. might need to take some notes on that post. the soil chemistry thing is still pretty foreign to me but i'm startin to get the basic idea

 

[Shcrews]

I couldn't say either way is a more professional or amateur way to grow...but all the professional growers I see are popping lots of seeds looking for gems, and I would say it's easier to grow a big plant from a clone that you know is going to produce vs a seed that may or may not produce. Yes seedlings have vigor but big in size doesn't always equate to big in yield.

thats a good point. what makes seeds easier for me is mainly the fact that i dont need supp lighting to prevent them flowering right when they go outside.

if i could use supp lighting on my hill i might grow clones but for me seeds are more foolproof.

easier to grow big plants from seeds btw. you just sow it some re-pot and ready. clone growing is much more complicated but you know what you grow.

clone growing is not much more complicated. What makes you say that?

 

[Shcrews]

Did you ever hear what the issue was with the South Fork chem male someone mentioned a few pages back?

Been waiting for a restock of BYF's gear so I can see if all his talk and knowledge shows true in his seed lines. Best way to sort the hyperbole from the fact is to drop a few seeds.

yah I still don't know what was up with that. I don't like when people are vague

I'd imagine you've got this all figured out by now, but...

You should apply 1/2c boron per cu yd of soil...every 3rd year, on average. Check out Fertibor. Boron is leached more easily from sandy soils so is often applied yearly in fields with subsequent plantings of crops that require more of it - such as a spring crop of broccoli followed by a crop of tomatoes / peppers in the late summer and fall. Even then, you never want more than 2# per acre, as it can be toxic when over applied.

Sulfate of potash (0-0-50) - instead of Sul-Po-Mg - can be used in conjunction with kelp meal to add more potassium without out further increasing Mg levels.

Calcium bentonite, gypsum, elemental sulfur could also help balance things out a bit. Adding more calcium while helping prevent further increases in pH, ideally 6.3 - and you are drifting at and above 7 in both Coot's mixes...which means you are at risk for tying up micro nutrients.

Your Ca:Mg ratios (sol / %BS) seem to be closer to 4:1 vs that ideal 7:1 - 10:1 range.

Your CEC being above 30 means it will take more calcium or more sulfur to have a noticeable effect on pH than it would otherwise.

Chilean nitrate or Blood meal for that pure nitrogen boost. Chilean Nitrate is limited to no more than 20% of total nitrogen in an NOP system, so a 20/80 mixture of the two works brilliantly, while still being able to provide quick, effective nitrogen.

It is odd to see such a high Mg level in your one soil test, the problem container...did you ever come to a conclusion how that happened?



dank.Frank

Thanks, great info. I have no idea why that one sample is different, but the soil in that container has grown stunted plants 2 yrs in a row, I'm hoping to get it dialed this year.
Have a few different soils to amend so it's goin to be hard to make each one perfect.

 

[Shcrews]

Shcrews, first off thank you for your time, energy, and generosity.... your threads have inspired me to follow your lead!!! I'm down in Fallbrook and would really love to participate in this season (newbie). that being said can you recommend a reputable place where i can acquire some Ancient OG seeds ?? You mentioned Kind Peoples, but i did not see it on their menue???

Hey man thanks, stick around the show is just starting.

Ancient OG seeds are discontinued. Look for Goji OG or Sky Lotus if you want something similar. A few people are making ancient OG f2's so maybe the strain will be available again in the future.

@ shcrews , i see where your love of the ancient og comes from now . i have harvested 2 smaller plants today . very nice . it may just have it on the dragons blood after all . haha i think the buds of the AOG are a lot larger . the dragons blood defiantly bigger plant though .

AOG looks like a better smoke too at this stage .

AOG has outperformed every other strain in my garden 2 yrs in a row, those genetics are no joke. Trying for a 3rd time this year,

 

[Shcrews]

at least a million

I hate that mentality

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

I speak about quality, not quantity.

but hungry pigs eat everything.

 

[Shcrews]

I speak about quality, not quantity.

but hungry pigs eat everything.

i dont know what youre saying at this point

wheres your grow thread btw?

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

I grow from clones, but not in a legal state. I need more plants to get that much yield like you get from 1 plant... or pot... triple planting again at this year?

I can grow 1 ton same quality bud from as much plants as I want. because I can grow from clones, not just from seeds. this way all my plants are the same high quality because they are all from the same high quality mother plant. not untested seed plants.

 

[Oakhills]

I can grow 1 ton same quality bud from as much plants as I want. because I can grow from clones, not just from seeds. this way all my plants are the same high quality because they are all from the same high quality mother plant. not untested seed plants.

How many people do you need to harvest 1 ton at the same time? Also how big of drying room do you need? Just curious how to 2000 lb growers do it.....

 

[oct]

I'm a "professional" grower and I grow all from clone. Seeds are more vigorous most definitely, but I hate having to section of each and every plant during harvest. Having hundreds of different labeled totes and partial #'s. I'll grow 48 plants this year. 3 strains. 2nd, 3rd, 4th week of october pulls.

 

[Shcrews]

I grow from clones, but not in a legal state. I need more plants to get that much yield like you get from 1 plant... or pot... triple planting again at this year?

I can grow 1 ton same quality bud from as much plants as I want. because I can grow from clones, not just from seeds. this way all my plants are the same high quality because they are all from the same high quality mother plant. not untested seed plants.

you must have missed when we had this same discussion last year.

Anyway i dont care about what some people think is the best way to "grow 1 ton" or "make a million", or some other dumb shit. i grow seeds because it works for me and there are other aspects of my life that concern me much more than that.

 

[oct]

1 ton? As in 2000 lbs? In a non-legal state? With a bunch of little clones?

Seems legit.