Midwest Outdoors IV 2006 Season

[pipeline]

It would work, but it would be better to use just plain potting soil with no fertilizer. Try and find the little fert balls (not perlite pieces) and take them out of the media you use for the seedlings. Seedlings are sensitive to nutrients and burn easily like if one of the fert balls was right next to it while it is still very small.

Well it's pretty much the beginning of the season now with all this warm weather in our region! The forcast says its going to be warm up to the last frost date so things look good. A dozen soaked beans are going out this weekend if the forcast doesn't change.

I decided to go ahead and put the secret seedling out by its sibling. Just stacked another film canister on top, taped it, and threw it in my pocket for the ride out. The other one was still alive. The soil is good, i think they'll make it.

 

[Guest]

i may have gotten lucky cuz this pot was left out for the winter and this morning had a bunch of weeds growing. Naturally i pulled them out and sifted thru all the roots and puled them out as i was doin this i noticed those little fert beads were busted already

 

[THCpulmonary]

Does anybody have any experience with the (plant livesaver/Green Genius) and guerilla growing. Need help please!!

 

[PureSativa420]

id actually say take the MG soil and mix it 50/50 with regular potting soil and you should be fine with using it once its mixed with non ferted soil the plants wont actually burn because the nute levels are lower then what they would be in a 100% mix of MG soil


great to see OG Bub around in our thread as he is one hella of a guy and we can compare are plants , thnxs for the JJ and N#1 Bub, hope they turn out something like yours and everyone elses!

 

[Guyute54]

Got some seeds yesterday. My freind started germing them as soon as he got them. Wish he would have said something I would have said PLAIN WHITE PAPER TOWEL. But Anyways 2 plants of each of these will be mine. The next shipment that comes in will be all mine except 2 from each strain.
In 24 hours all the Big bud beans have little tails already but the rest just have some cracking open. Well what showed up yesterday were HTC Powerhouse, DP Passion #1, Nirvana Big Bud, and Nirvana Blue Mystic, and the frebies were MOD Arjan Haze #2 x Kali Mist. Well the Power house seeds are the biggest of the bunch and the Passion 1 are the smallest they are friking tiny. I really don't know what to do with the frebies I really don't think they will make it outdoors.

 

[sMack-CFS!]

^ nice, I just recently got some Passion #1 in the mail as well. About to go pick them up from my safe addy right now actually..

 

[Nickel Bag]

Hi guys & gals, I haven't posted lately, have my hands full with a 9 plant indoor scrog grow that's about to finish in a week, give or take a little.

For this years outdoor grow I have 7 C-99 clones in pots, 14 papaya clones in my homemade bubble cloner and at least 30 clones in cold storage awaiting their turn for the bubble cloner. All the clones came from my indoor, late winter grow, the plan is working perfectly.

The weather has been a little warm for April in the high 80's, should be around 60 - 70 this time of year. I still wont plant till mid May, Ive been growing around here long enough to know better than to try to rush mother nature. Also the girls seem to survive the first few weeks better if I let them get about 1 foot tall before transplanting to their outdoor home.

Hopefully we all have a good growing year,


Later
Nick

 

[PureSativa420]

nice to see you around Nickel!

i was out walking around yesterday and lots of green is coming from the ground up and some of the trees are slowly grown leaves, so i think i planted and germ my seeds exactly right this year not to early not to late but somewhere right in the middle

my plants will be grown as i said inside untill i can show sex then once the sex shows ill put them outside to harden off and keep trying to put more out but the 1st ones will be the main crop ill look after and the rest after are for the Cops & Rippers i wont even sex them jus veg for 2 weeks then out they go

as the saying goes 1 for me 1 for the Cops and 1 for the rippers

 

[Guyute54]

Well 100% germination rate! I really didn't think all those little passion #1 were going to pop they really looked imature but they are all starting to pop throught the soil. Crappy picture but I'm a little shakey .

 

[pipeline]

Great to hear you had good germ rates. Chances are pretty good that at least one of those beans will survive to fall.

I ended up goin back to my dug holes without lime and mixed in a handfull of agricultural lime (Dolomitic and calcitic mix) with my fingers. I want to make sure there is no Mg deficiency or ph problems. There are wild junipers in the area so im pretty sure the soil is acidic. Magnesium is needed as a co-substrate in any enzyme catalyzed reaction where ATP loses a phosphate group and is converted to ADP or the other way. Basically for the plant to store (ADP+inorganic P-->ATP) and use energy (ATP-->ADP + inorganic P) in enzyme catalyzed reactions (almost all regulated pathways) and other pumps and mechanisms in each cell, Mg 2+ is required as cosubstrate to allow the reaction to happen. Don't want to be low on something that important.

I have an area picked out for my well spread out and numerous backup plants. Lots of rugged and houseless terain. I plan on doing something like what kov did. I'll dig a generous size hole, amend with plant tone and agricultural lime , and try and cover up the ferted soil with a couple inches of plain dirt to prevent smells from attracting animals . Then i'll make 4 small holes in a square and mound a little potting soil on them for seedling germination. Of course i'll let this sit for a few weeks to decompose and so animals get used to it. Then i'll be able to come long and just plant the seeds and put 4 small rings made from bottles around them for protection until they get larger.

We've been getting some good rain around here lately. Must be spring.

 

[HydroPonixs420]

Not only that you dont need car insurance .... How are the gun laws there?

 

[pipeline]

A little info on benefits of Gypsum i found.

It appears gypsum does have some clay dissolving characteristics, but only for Sodic clay soil that is not salty. Heres a good site i found.

http://www.ricecrc.org/reader/soil-types-structure/ss1192-clay-easier-work.htm


Gypsum (calcium sulfate) is commonly recommended as a clay breaking chemical. However, it only improves the structure of sodic clay soil that is not saline. It has little effect on non-sodic clays. North Coast clays are generally not sodic, apart from subsoils in slate hill soils around Grafton, Taree and Gloucester.

Sodic clays are clay soils where more than 5% of the exchangeable cations attached to the clay particles are sodium. (Cations are positively charged elements held by the negatively charged clay particle.) When sodic clay topsoils are wet they swell, often to such an extent that each clay particle separates from the other particles. When this happens the clay is said to have dispersed. Dispersion can be seen as cloudy water.

When gypsum is applied to sodic clays, it dissolves in the soil water and changes the soil chemistry in two ways.

1. It creates a salt solution in the soil water, and clays tend not to swell or disperse as much in salt solutions. This is a short-term effect occurring only while the gypsum is dissolving in the soil water.
2. The calcium cations in gypsum replace the exchangeable sodium cations attached to the clay. By this process a sodic clay is changed to a calcium clay, less prone to swelling and-clay dispersion. The displaced sodium cations are leached below the plant roots. This effect lasts long after the gypsum has dissolved.

The calcium effect can also be achieved with lime on acid sodic clays, but the lime has to be cultivated into the soil and the soil has to be acid enough to dissolve the lime to provide the calcium.

Check if your clay soil is sodic and dispersible by dropping small air-dry aggregates (3–5 mm diameter) into rainwater. If the water turns cloudy within two hours, the soil may respond to gypsum application. You should then have your soil tested to check whether it will respond, or you can apply trial strips of gypsum in the paddock using different rates. Increased soil friability and improved seedling emergence indicate that the soil has responded to gypsum.

 

[pipeline]

Just went out to see how the bagseed seedlings survived the weekend last night's cool temps. They're both doing fine and their 2nd set of leaves have started. It will be interesting to see how well they grow with just the nutrients in the soil and the care of the weather. This is the corn belt, i bet they grow up big and strong, if they dont get too shaded.

 

[lookimrory]

well all 7 of my plants are in the ground...and although i dont have pictures at the moment they seem to be wilting a little bit....should i water more now that there is no bottom to their "container", or is this just natural and them getting used to the harsher enviroment?

 

[pipeline]

Starting to get excited about the beginning of the season so i decided to start 3 beans from seedstock from last years North1 and Jamaican jam grow for living out on their own near the bagseeds. Each got planted in promix bx with biofungicide in individual film canisters with a hole in the bottom. This media seemed to germ the bagseeds pretty quickly with no presoaking, only a few days.

 

[local_grower]

lovely grow

lovely grow

hey there puresativa

nice outdoor grow you got going, im planning a outdoor grow this year my seeds are germing, im using dutch passion seeds. can you give me any new outdoor growing tips?

cheers

 

[Guyute54]

Pipe I am getting very excited myself wish I had as many seeds as you to play with. Maybee I'll make some of my own this year. But I also got the other half of the order today. BOG's- sweet cindy99, Mandela's- speed queen, Nirvana- Holands hope , Nirvana- Durban Poison, and another pack of MOD's Arjans haze #2 x NL5 haze. So now I got all the gear got all the holes dug just waiting till I see all the lows in the forecast to stay above 50.

Loolimrory- It's really tuff to call without a picture maybee a better discription on whats happening to the leaves and we might be able to help.

 

[PureSativa420]

hey there puresativa

nice outdoor grow you got going, im planning a outdoor grow this year my seeds are germing, im using dutch passion seeds. can you give me any new outdoor growing tips?

cheers

check out the link in my signature it has most of the stuff you need to know on outdoor growing


1 of my mutant plants, also i caught mites somehow and been fighting them off but all looks good caught them before they got a chance to fucking take over!

 

[pipeline]

Thats nuts, both you and clayill got whorled plants this year, a rare event happening twice is very very rare. Must mean good luck.

One of the 3 beans that were planted about a day and a half ago is showing its white curving root at the top of the media, should be up by tomorrow morning. Promix BX is good stuff for germing, holds the moisture but is very light. Here's some info on the biofungicide promix, good stuff.

http://www.premierhort.com/eProMix/Horticulture/Products/GrowingMediaCat/Biofungicide/fSubtilex.htm

Happy Four-Twenty Everyone!

 

[PureSativa420]

updates of the plants who had mites and i killed em off, as you see the mites slowed down some growth on the plants but still look as if they will bounce back after the damage, lost some of the seedlings as they wouldnt come above the soil or was runts and pulled (still have 2 or 3 runts) and i have 1 3 leafed plant in this closet and 2 in the other which are still sprouting