Mexican - El Yucatero

[Elevator Man]

I can also vouch for the speedy, racing high, after getting the chance to taste a little last week. It's really mild smelling and tasting, and not very resinous, in that deceptive way sativas can disguise themselves (or whatever mix it is). But two minutes after smoking a joint, I had a dry mouth, and then elevation - quite quickly actually.

Compared to say the Malawi Gold, which is more of a smooth climb, this is just catapulting straight out there. I didn't smoke a lot in one session, but the first one of the day was particularly potent - needed a shower after that. Needless to say, too much of this would probably be 'too much'...man...

 

[Guest]

Hehe, I've tried to find the limits of the high with this one and I managed to do 6 bong hits then I had to kick back and put some music on, I think I've developed a bit opf a tolerance, but I was still very high indeed. It's the polar opposite of a heavy indica stone.

It's not a complex high like my ZamalHaze or the Malawi Gold, like EM says it's just straight up kind of high, I like to have both in my arsenal - a complex sativa and a speedy sativa.

 

[Raco]

...muy "picante"
Nice report BH

 

[Guest]

Si, mi amigo, muy picante indeed! I have a bottle of lovely tequila and some Mexican buds put to one side for New Year's Eve, it will have had a 2 month cure by them, I am sure some tequla slammers and big bowls of El Yucateca will help the party along! lol

I have to add that she has the most amazing vigour I have ever seen, it is almost 6 weeks since she was harvested, and i revegged her. She reverted to veg the day after going back into a 24/0 light regime, immediately growing new branches from all the little popcorn buds remaining. Within 4 weeks she had grown so big she had taken over the whole cabinet so I cut 10 clones from her. She took that in her stride and carried on growign so a week ago I took 10 more cuts from her. Today I put her into flowering as she won't stop growing and taking over the cabinet. Amazing how much growth she has put out in 6 weeks since harvest, bear in mind 20 cuts, half of them 3 nodes, have been taken and this is what's left. With her explosive growth when flipped to flower and the way she triples in height I expect her to yield even better this time round as she has a dozen or more main branches. She's in a 3.5 litre pot of coco this time, first run I got 44g off her in a 1.7 litre pot, so I'm hoping to break the 2 ounce (57g) barrier this time.

I'm going to look for suitable males from mostly sativa lines to cross to her in the future, I want to preserve her genetics in seed form. I think something like C99 might be a good choice, I would chose something stable and truebreeding.

 

[Neptune]

your experiences with the trippy cancun weed are exactly my expericnes west of there, on the pacific side circa Puerto Vallarta... where I obtained about 500 seeds of a strain we call "Yelapa." The herb blew my mind in mexico, but when I grew out 10 females outside in california, none of them really represented the herb from where the seeds came from...

Many great sativas in the bunch, and clearly some hybridization with dutch genes... one standout "diesel" pheno that was probably the best of the bunch... but nothing that really blew my head off and made me go wandering in the dark with a bottle of mexican moonshine(ricia), passing out on the beach and loving every minute of it.

lets see if I can dig some photos...

grown in cali..


























and my trip down to mexico...

 

[Elevator Man]

Beautiful plants Neptune - really inspiring shots. Is the purpling cold-related or does it do that anyway?

 

[Guest]

Hiya Neptune

Many thanks for sharing your lovely Mexican. I have to say, yours looks much frostier and better looking than mine, how much the Cali sun affects expresion and resin production I don't know, perhaps that Mexican you have has a touch more indica in it than mine, it looks like it does to me with the denser buds and greater resin.

The crappy brick I smoked in Mexico was definitely of the make you go babbling and wandering in a bubble of altered reality for a while, the atmosphere, heat, humidity, tequila nad senoritas probably contributed to the mindwarp however, but hey, that's why I love Mexico! I;m just very happy that the plant I have produces an expression indoors under lights that has a totally herad only high with no body stone, the kind of energising, speedy high I have always really enjoyed. I would love to grow her outdoors full season somewhere like Cali or Spain and see how the expression differs.

 

[Guest]

I've decided to use this second run of 'El Yucateca' to test out a possible organic feeding regime for coco. I've already seen how she performs using canna Coco a+b and PK13-14, so I figure she is a great choice to test organics. She is a very strong girl, not sensitive to nutes at all and has extreme vigour, so should give great info on how well the organics work.

So, for the first two weeks of flowering I am feeding her an organic seaweed based feed with trace elements and an NPK of 5-6-8, sounds perfect for early flowering. I'm also giving her Maxicrop seaweed extract, liquid humus and molasses. I gave her this mixture at an ec of 1.5, ph 5.8 last night. I will slowly build up the ec to 1.7 over the next two weeks, then when she begins to produce flowers I will take her upto 1.8 or 1.9 and start adding some Rooster chicken manure extract (high in K) and No Mercy Guano extract (high in P). I'm basically replicating my Canna coco regime but with organic alternatives.

The Canna nutes have added humic and fulvic acids and kelp, so I'm adding those goodies organically with the Maxicrop and Liquid Humus, and the Seaweed feed, Chicken and Guano extracts all contain trace elements and gooides, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to be giving El Yucateca loads of goodies and everythign she needs. The question in my eyes is will the organics produce bud of equal or better quality to the Canna and will the yield be lower, higher or the same.

 

[Guest]

Well, 5 days of 12/12 and El Yucateca has exploded into even faster growth! I have had to break out the bamboo poles and tie her up, looks like there will be four main colas, one smaller one in the centre and a whole mess of smaller colas, I reckon given how much bigger she is than the first time she began flowering, that I will easily hit the 2oz (56g) mark and may get as high as 75g seeing as I got 44g the last time off a plant half this size.

I reckon she really like the organics I've been feeding her the last five days at ec 1.6, ph 5.8, no signs of overfert, she's been getting the 5-6-8 seaweed feed, Maxicrop seaweed extract, unsulphured Blackstrap Molasses and Liquid Humus. I'm going to step up to ec 1.7 tomorrow as she looks like she can take it. Looks like I am gonna be able to push the ec higher with these organics than I could with the Canna a+b.

I always think the growth tips of a plant are on of the best indicators of her health and happiness, and looking at these tips, I reckon this gal is very healthy and happy, the upward pointing, 'praying' leaves show that she is happy with the ph levels and the razor straight leaves show she is not overfed. I'm liking this organic regime, it looks to be very much to El Yucateca's tastes.

She is occupying a spot in the front row in my wardrobe and although slightly overshadowed by the plants approaching harvest, she will soon shoot up past them, I think some bondage seesions are gonna be necessary soon as she won't stop growing taller for another 3-4 weeks if the first flower run is anything to go by.

 

[Elevator Man]

That thing is seriously a beast eh?

The clones are all well rooted, and already given a couple out to interested parties. As soon as the Grape Krush are out of there next week, and there's some more room, I'll get one potted and put it straight into flower and see what I can get...

 

[Guest]

Hehe, yup, a beast alright, you wouldn't think she had been flowered, revegged, had 20+ clones removed and then back into flower 6 weeks after the first harvest. To me, to have revegged and put out enough growth to have 20+ cuts taken is downright amazing, some serious vigour on this gal!

Really glad to hear the clone is spreading, I think she has a couple of traits such as the huge yield and quite different speedy high that make her worthy of being spread around. If I hear that certain northen UK cities have speedy Mexican commercial buds floating around a few months from now I will be very happy that I have done a little to spice up the usual boring indicas available commercially. She may be a 12 weeker, but with her vigour and yield, I can see commercial crop potential in her for sure.

Also really looking forward to seeing what you do with her, we will have to compare buds in 3-4 months. I reckon even a small, 6 inch cut would hit 2 and a half feet easily, maybe more, but when she does stop getting taller, she really does fatten up, I cut her at 12 weeks the first time as she had a bit of mould and I was scared of it spreading, so I chopped the whole plant. I reckon she could have gone longer, and yield would have been bigger as she was doing that sativa thing of still producing new calyxes. Perhaps if left longer than 12 weeks the high will alter somewhat, although I can't see it ever having any body component and always being heady and speedy.

Would love to see some outcrosses of her too, Mexi-Flo still sounds great to me!

 

[TC84]

Really enjoyed the thread!! The girl is a beast! I was down in Yelapa mexico this past april and found an older "hippie" type guy who introduced me to a local that grew up in the hills. I bought the best mexican smoke ive ever seen, as the guy knew what he was doing. It had visible trichomes, and only a couple seeds in about an ounce that he gave me. Yelapa was the shit and cant wait to go back as it was the best time ive had in all my trips to mexico!!

 

[Guest]

I'll have to think about going to Yelapa myself, have to go check the map. Any seeds you can bring back from good pot there may produce fantastic pot grown with care at home. The brick my seeds came from was the dirtiest dark green/brown stalky, seeded crap, only taste and smell was of ammonia so I reckon it was partially fermented, probably because some Mexican had pissed on it, I've heard they often doo that. It was definitely old and dry, after removing all the sticks and seeds, less than half the pile was left, about 200 seeds from a quarter ounce, 150 white, cracked or crushable, brought about 50 home, out of first 25 I tried to germ last year got one sprout, a lovely plant but twas male so I killed him. (Oh how I regret that, wish I still had him). Out of the second batch of 25 I germed this year, got 4 sprouts, El Yucateca, another female that was similar but leafier and was destroyed by mould, bar 11g, a thired females I have flowering now, and a hermie, full-on hermie with equal ammounts of male and female flowers:


Sadly that hermie managed to shed some pollen before I culled it and I have a few seeds from this pollination - he made seeds on my SSSDH, Colombian Gold x Grapefruitbowl f2 and both Mexican ladies, maybe 20 from each. They are worthless as the hermie trait is bound to show up. Perhaps they will be roughly half hermie, half female, who knows. Anyone wants some to mess about with, drop me a PM, you're welcome to them!

Mexican hermie:

That last pic could be used to illustrate a true hermie - equal numbers of male and female flowers at each node. This is one of only two true hermies I have grown, the other being a Zamal x Haze, the others always had more female flowers with just a few balls.

The third Mexican female looks very similar to El Yucateca, the leaves are also similarly broad, but she has the same huge buds and they are forming very similarly, I think she is somewhere halfway between El Yucateca and the leafier one that got mouldy. These two pics show the Mexican lady, you can see a couple of swollen, seeded calyxes. That cola pictured is humongous, especially for a 250w lamp, I reckon that cola will be 35-40g when dry, and then there are a couple of chunky side branches, I reckon she will hit the 50g mark when dry, her sister yielded 44g but was a smaller plant, this one had a couple weeks more veg time.

Those seeded calyxes were caused by an accident with a TW male. The TW male was exceptionally quick to flower, he took only 11 days of 12/12 to show his first set of balls, and then flowered so fast he caught me by surprise and spewed pollen everywhere, the Trainwreck ladies, Mexican, Egyptian and BB x ZH all got pollinated so I'm gonna have a load more TW beans than I intended! Pretty sure he is the same pheno as the tall one pictured at 28 days at the bottom of this post. I took a cut of him but it rotted in my propagator sadly.

I'm very pleased I managed to make the TW x Mexican cross as the Mexican is a massive yielder with an amazingly speedy high, the TW will add resin and perhaps potency, although she isn't lacking in that area. Have the TW x Mexican beans is so important to me as I really want to preserve the Mexican genes and don't have a Mexican male. (If i could bring back on plant from the past, it would be him!) Should be 6-7 weeks before the beans are dried and ready if anyone fancies test growing a few.

Here's a TW female at 28 days and already pumping out the resin, I reckon the TW and Mexican will make a really nice hybrid. The TW has thin, weak stems, whereas the Mexican has the thickest, strongest stems I've ever seen on a sativa, the Mexican has little visible resin but plenty of potency, the TW had abundant resin and is supposed to be pretty potent too, so unless some recessive intersex trait rears it's ugly head, I'm sure there will be some nice f1s to be found. One thing I am sure they will be is vigourous as the Mexican in it's pure form is true jack and the beanstalk weed, the most vigourous strain I've ever grown, and the TW isn't lacking in vigour either, so the f1s will probably grow and grow and grow... lol

 

[Guest]

El Yucateca is now 10 days into 12/12 and is growing very nicely, 5 days from the last pics and you can really see how she has grown. She is lapping up the organics at ec 1.7 and looks very happy, no signs of overfert. Obviously my organic mix is working, for the last 5 days she had been getting a little bat guano and chicken manure extract as well as the seaweed feed, Maxicrop, liquid humus and blackstrap molasses.

With the way she grows, perhaps I should change her name from El Yucateca to Los Bestia Yucateca! lol

 

[muddy waters]

cool grow, BH... i have gotten good things from mexican bagseed in the past, too... i will be interested to see how the flowers form, if she is a sativa or more likely some kind of hybrid grown in the region.

(and just to let you know, "el" is the Spanish article for a masculine object... "yucateca" is the female form of the adjective meaning from the Yucatan... so... "La yucateca" would be a little easier on the eyes of the Spanish-speaking contingent here heheheh... but us gringos are allowed to butcher their language i suppose)

cheers for the inspired work

 

[Guest]

Hola Muddy, gald to see you around. She is very definitely a hybrid in my eyes, the huge bud production, 12-ish week flowering time, broad leaves and thicky, stocky stems all point o her having some indica in her, although the high is 100% sativa, totally blast your head off speedy high, taste was lacking at first, but after a cure it's become a tasty peppermint flavour.

Thanks for pointing out the Yucateca feminine thing. A nice Mexican chap beat you to it a little earlier in the thread, just a mild buit of butchery on my part.

Am I correct though in saying Los Bestia Yucateca means The (female) Beast from Yucatan?

I only know bestia means beast cos I used to watch a lot of lucha (AAA) and remember a rudo called 'Bestia Salvaje' which I worked out means 'Savage Beast'! lol

Hey, I can say 'una cerveza muy frigo por favor' so I'm generally pretty happy with my command of Spanish! When I was in Mexico I had no problems as I know the words 'marijuana' and 'sensimilla', although the locals used 'mota'.

 

[Guest]

Well, 15 days into Flo and she is still getting taller, gaining a couple of inches each day. This is not stretch, the nodes are close, she just has massive vigour. I have to say, the organics I'm giving her are working like a dream, she is extremely healthy, very green, no sign of overfert at all, no yellowing anywhere, I'd say she likes these organics more than she did the Canna Coco a+b and PK 13-14.

She is alrady a little bit too tall for my wardrobe and will get taller still, so I bent each of the four main branches through 90 degrees and tied them to the adjacent stake so the four flattened branches form a horizontal square. This reduced her height by over a foot and brought the main branches down to the level of the smaller ones in the centre.

As the horizontal branches stuck out a fair bit, I turned the three longer ones vertical again by tying them to the stakes. I also added some horzontal training wires between the stakes to tie the smaller branches to, sort of like a mini-SCROG. I will give her another 5 days to adjust to the bondage and do some more tying and training to get her into a really nice flat, even canopy. I would have loved to have let her carry on as four main branches vertically but she would get far, far too tall for my space.

 

[muddy waters]

lol BH damn close friend... quick spanish lesson in articles: el/los = "the" singular/plural (masculine); la/las = "the" singular/plural (feminine)... i think bestia is feminine so la bestia yucateca = the yucatecan beast! she really is a beast ey? the cross with TW (is that the arcata clone or another versioN?) sounds really really promising.

commercial hybrid with a good sativa high sounds like a pretty decent find congrats. are the tastes anything special would you say? (sorry if i'm making you repeat yourself)..

 

[PhillyPride]

Great Story British Hempire, I too have traveled to Cancun-Playa Del Carmen-Cozumel area recently twice and experienced this same wonderful seeded Mexican brick, now like you said I ran across bogus/terrible seeded bud but I did run across some real serious bud that looked like schwag but had a very lucid psychedelic desirable High, I attribute this to the exotic locale and wonderful tropical weather. I even had some pretty decent conversations with some locals in Play del Carmen on their farming methods and techniques; a very interesting conversation to say the least. The 4ft woman you spoke about was a mexican of Mayan decent, the indigenous people are either Aztec or Mayan or a mix of both. The Aztec people look more anglo and are more often near mexico city, the people of mayan decent are usually towards the southern end of Mexico and the Yucaton peninsula and have more indigenous indian features. Here is a pic of some bud a friend of mine brought back from Jamaica, very similar to the Mexican herb very good but not as psychedelic but great for compressed and seeded bud

 

[Guest]

Hi muddy, thanks for sorting my brutalisation of Spanish out! La bestia Yucateca it is!

The taste, well when first dried the buds had a menthol taste that I really liked and found refreshing, has the unfortunate side effect of giving you a dry mouth pretty quickly though, you need a drink at hand when toking on these buds. I found the taste fitted perfectly with the high, both were pretty out of the ordinary. After a cure, the buds have become more pepperminty with hints of menthol and a slight sourness in the background, but mostly it's peppermint and I like it a lot. Be interesting to see if the organically grown buds taste any different to the Canna a+b grown ones

Today, you would not think she had been through a heavy bondage session at all, she has carried on growing like nothing has happened and has actually visibly gained height again!

The TW is from Woodhorse Seeds, I had one male and he was a dead ringer for the pheno that looks just like the Arcata cut and he was pretty early.

Hiya Philly, silly me, Mayans, they have so many tourist Mayan things I don't know how I forgot! I've been to Cancun 4 times now and I really like the area, gald to hear you enjoyed Playa Del Carmen, I'd love a beach house in that area, maybe a bit further south further from the tourists. The Jamaican looks lovely. I've also got a Jamaican clone from Elevator Man that is fantastic, looking forward to flowering a cut shortly.