MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[Julian]

We`ll i weigh in here and say that their`s no f`n way i`d try a grow inside a city.......to many homeless people looking for a place to crash........I find it hard to believe that their are locations that no ones ever been......i mean you get people cutting across old properties.............vagrants searching for bottles or anything else they can sell.........crack dealers setting up business in old over-grown city lots........thieves checking everyones backyard for an easy score...how be it plants or a lawn mower or BBQ....I can`t see anyone getting away with anything sizable............I`m not knocking your thread Julian because theirs lots of use-able info packed inside these threads.

Well, I have no problem with you or the statement above, and, of course, it goes without saying if a spot was not acceptable for any reasons one could think of, then it would not be used........

No where would, or have, I say/said "use any spot that is insecure, not private, with traffic, etc", and, since this is supposed to be a site for adults, and, accordingly, men, possessing some intelligence.....I mean, they can assess a spot for themselves...(most are far too paranoid to begin with to even contemplate using the spots that I use )...

Did I instruct? Did I suggest? I merely try to make people aware of what is possible....illustrated ......from then on, they can develop their own plans and strategies....etc....

Nothing more...

Edit: Thank you.....very nice of you to say....I like your work btw

 

[Ganico]

I guess it also depends on semantics too, and what you think of as a "city", probably easier in small midwestern town of 75k people, rather than Houston,Miami, etc.

But anyway, here your main concern for a "city" plot would be kids. Kids cutting through the zillions of what we used to call "trails", paths and shortcuts. If there's a patch of vegetation in the city here, there's gonna be a path through it, whether it's a park,patch of trees, vacant lot or whatever.

Second concern would be people running from cops through those same places, of course they come packaged with cops on foot and choppers with spotlights following them


* you know for a weed site, there's a lot of arguing here,hahaha. Goddamn, I leave the strains forum where they are talking shit about genetics and hackery, then come to the outdoor forum where it's all arguing about numbers and locations and shit

But, you know ,them micro cab growers don't argue about jackshit, hahaha. Why is that??

 

[Julian]

I guess it also depends on semantics too, and what you think of as a "city", probably easier in small midwestern town of 75k people, rather than Houston,Miami, etc.

Nah.....all depends on the spot......but, I guarantee, every place has one ..(couple.....figure of speech....)

btw......a lot of this topic is really a moot point anyway because or late yr issues with railroads, so, automatically eliminates a lot of those spots discussed earlier for anyone, anywhere, anyway, ya know?.....

But anyway, here your main concern for a "city" plot would be kids. Kids cutting through the zillions of what we used to call "trails", paths and shortcuts. If there's a patch of vegetation in the city here, there's gonna be a path through it, whether it's a park,patch of trees, vacant lot or whatever.

Good point, but, lot of areas might not have such traffic....(factory areas, any tracks, any other kind of locations in metro which could be used......)

I have a lot of those, and, is obvious (kids cross, trails, etc)...I see that, as would anyone, I know the area, as would anyone, and, I know what will be traffic spots, and, which will not, and, don't use the ones which I think are uncool

Same as larger, same as forest, etc....

Growing is growing....

Second concern would be people running from cops through those same places, of course they come packaged with cops on foot and choppers with spotlights following them

Well, farther and farther in you get the more you face different issues but I highly doubt anyone will be doing a ghetto grow (highest homeless, etc...I have some, but, I know where they all are pretty much ....)

But, realistically...the above...your talking a rarity........(I have never had such occur, and, minimal loss.....)

* you know for a weed site, there's a lot of arguing here,hahaha. Goddamn, I leave the strains forum where they are talking shit about genetics and hackery, then come to the outdoor forum where it's all arguing about numbers and locations and shit

I wasn't arguing with anyone...I have no intention to.....I log on, I see people talking shit about me, (half just because they are too ****in stupid to read a post in the first place or know what a link is before they talk their bullshit....and, invite them to at least say it to my face (I'm not ****ing up someone else's thread......this ones mine, so, feel free......Got something to say, say it....at least allow me the chance to respond to it...ya know?......say it to my face and let's be done with it........ I would.....You took your shot, take another and give me mine .....but check that ****in skirt at the door and bring an IQ...

But, you know ,them micro cab growers don't argue about jackshit, hahaha. Why is that??

I would usually never even think of "pulling rank"/numbers on someone....I know, like, and respect a lot of small growers.....and, whatever..we're all what we are and that's that....people change their methods so todays small is tomorrow's larger anyway, so.....but to put forth effort in good will, and, in the process risk due to size....only to see people bad mouthing (mostly because they were too ****in stupid to click a link or read any in the first place rubs me the wrong way....

****......read through every post......look at every pic (90 btw...I thought like 75..) and then say whatever you like.... fine with me man...fine with me...no problem...(****, this whole ****in thread I have idiots saying that shit.."you don't know how to grow"...."you suck at growing"...whatever like I give a **** what some kid smoking resin out of a coke can and tinfoil in basement jerking off says ya know?

I suck? Yep....big time

I'm lying? absolutely..never grew a plant in my life....

I'm an obnoxious prick?......****......should see me when in the zone..

but, to skulk around talking shit....eh........the act of nothing more than a bitch..........bad form...in very bad taste...

 

[Ganico]

For me, the tracks are actually included in the paths I was talking about, cause in the city here folks walk the tracks as shortcuts. Mainly kids and crackheads, and then folks running of course.

I actually hate the word "ghetto", but here "city" pretty much equals what a lot of y'all would call "ghetto". It's actually downright thirdworld in a lot of areas. Then there's the suburbs, but you might as well just hit the country since they are all bordered by the countryside anyway.
So yeah, mainly what you'd consider "ghetto" is whats been in my mind the whole time folks been talking about "city plots" and such,haha

Like I said, semantics, haha.

 

[Julian]

For me, the tracks are actually included in the paths I was talking about, cause in the city here folks walk the tracks as shortcuts. Mainly kids and crackheads, and then folks running of course.

I know what you mean......exactly...here too..(every city is the same.....essentially...) , but, 150,000 miles of track in this nation of ours ......

I had one spot which a lot of kids from one side crossed to go to the other...but, they kind of closed it up, fenced it all off, and diverted them to one side, so, that's one of the spots I was using lately...

You know...no blanket statement applies...in out, large or small.....each spot different (kinda what I started early in thread)...spot dictates the method, etc...nowhere would I suggest using a spot which is not feasible , ya know?....

How do you know?...well, you know your spots, your area, your neighborhoods, so, you go from there based upon that.....very simple.....

I mean, I like my numbers........so......lot of spots which I wave off because I can't do enough, but....couple?....eh....lot different criteria, and, even more safe and more stealth...

Should also be noted that for city spots I run exclusively smaller ones, so....that's what they lend themselves to..(usually less than 3 footers spaced wide with vegetation......had a really nice one, guess I got it in just right...they all turned out 2 footers....had another spot the same, but, low yielders because sun issues...but, idea height.....)

I actually hate the word "ghetto", but here "city" pretty much equals what a lot of y'all would call "ghetto". It's actually downright thirdworld in a lot of areas.

Nooo brother.....when I say "ghetto"...I mean third world Anything else to me is "city"....

"Ghetto" also meaning a place which see's no peace in the context I used it......just no privacy at all, etc.....

(But, then again......I did help out someone in that type of area regarding a vacant lot which was overgrown and backing tracks, etc, and vacants on 2 sides........worked actually quite well (for them...small amount...I didn't take anything on that..but, think they got at least 5.......I just gave em the plants and a little help....one of guys works for me....)

All depends........all I try to convey is anywhere is possible for something....

Then there's the suburbs, but you might as well just hit the country since they are all bordered by the countryside anyway.

Well, tracks....burbs is where it's at...less traffic into many areas that are possible.....same as out in general...further out you go, better it is/less populated/traffic, etc......

So yeah, mainly what you'd consider "ghetto" is whats been in my mind the whole time folks been talking about "city plots" and such,haha

Like I said, semantics, haha.

No.......what I call "city" is indeed city.....as above...homes, commuters rail, 8 lanes, etc.......other spots stretches behind factories, etc.....in mid city..not really ghetto because not residential, etc...so...mostly factory, industrial...etc......couple of my pics you can see streets and buildings and streetlights .....

We're talking my standards also (numbers), so.....for someone just doing a couple here and there, etc, or, even more if right situation.....even more safe.....(I do single file, sometimes double of mini's over long stretches...so...again..spacing, working into surrounding bushes and trees and weeds and such...

****..lot of these areas, the grass is 2 feet tall , so...ya know? ....

Good locations everywhere, and, I have every faith that a grower would be paranoid and careful enough to select the right one...(****, as above...my spots?.....I got 5 yrs out of em with quite large numbers, but, am almost positive no one else would touch these spots, let alone the numbers , so...(although..............different area?...little farther put?...nice stretch in burbs........probably could if spacing and spreading them out over a long distance and access to tracks...(all addressed earlier....)

On a different note.....any altercation I have, people should note not in anger....mostly amusement with a dash of contempt......otherwise....I'm good going to grab something, eat, entertain a little and hopefully catch Homegrown and run out and have a drink, so.....

I don't have a problem with anyone...I didn't start anything....I'm just finishing what was already started, and, wasn't by me in the first place ......

See.......me?...I grow...wherever,whenever...however.....I find a method which works with what I have at my disposal at the time and I find a way to get it done...

Which I do strongly advocate for anyone, anywhere, anytime, in any aspect of life.....

Edit: I think everyone gets the general idea, and, my meaning.....and, as, if not responsible, intelligent people, we can make all our own decisions, and, do not need to to have it repeated post after post after post after post about the same thing...which is what some tend to do (making it worse when those have no experience on subject to start with.....)

 

[Julian]

Notes regarding spots

Notes regarding spots

It seems as though many are under the impression that one just sees a spot and uses it, or that I might tell one to use a spot and the will blindly.....

Well, if one is actually a veteran experienced grower , then they would be well aware that most (myself included) will see, pass, check a spot many, many times even before ever packing up to plant that spot.........

Seems some tend to treat everyone on site as though we are all small children which need to be chased around and preached to endlessly about something which even a 5yr old would be aware of....

People who actually grow....will see a wide spot......will make something click......will go in closer, or, another time....will pass more frequently for glimpses, then, finally start explorations on the ground, during which we will see how we feel there,. how we feel at spot.......what is nearby...while we dwell the potential security issues and possibilities....then maybe pass some more........then...finally......make a firm plan that spot will be used, and, then, somewhere in the process, it will become established how many we will place there......a number which may even change the minute before we leave to plant them, all depending on how we feel........

But an expert veteran would know that.......

 

[Guest]

wow, lots happening huh?

Well, if one is actually a veteran experienced grower , then they would be well aware that most (myself included) will see, pass, check a spot many, many times even before ever packing up to plant that spot.........

Seems some tend to treat everyone on site as though we are all small children which need to be chased around and preached to endlessly about something which even a 5yr old would be aware of....

People who actually grow....will see a wide spot......will make something click......will go in closer, or, another time....will pass more frequently for glimpses, then, finally start explorations on the ground, during which we will see how we feel there,. how we feel at spot.......what is nearby...while we dwell the potential security issues and possibilities....then maybe pass some more........then...finally......make a firm plan that spot will be used, and, then, somewhere in the process, it will become established how many we will place there......a number which may even change the minute before we leave to plant them, all depending on how we feel........

Now I'm not the smartest stoner in the world....lol

I'm actually really glad you said this, havent grown on 'random' property before, and as went spot 'smoking' the other day, liked a place, but thought just that, I'll drive back out sometime in next month, drive again, take a piss, drink a beer, maybe if i still like it, walk off some, take a fishing pole...whats a fisher gonna see...MAYBE even get dirt in there this winter, different car to come plant in, something to that effect....

not to pride myself so much or anything, lol, more to confirm your faith in us wreckless newbs, lol

I usually believe if someone has the capabilty to desire something, ie, intelligence of what they can do,want to do, then they have equal intelligence to perform it, IF attention to detail is paid.....If they got the go, or power to dream it, then its just up to them to DO IT

 

[marto]

I can see why people would freek about doing an urban grow. I never would....grow that is. Hidden in plane sight is a tough concept to swallow i guess until youve done it a few times. I really dont see it as any riskier than a guerrilla patch in the woods. Alot of time spots we think of as the coolest may have already been scoped by other growers that act alike and think alike. There is a bit of a collective mindset among growers. Twice last year i found 2 abandoned grows just as i thought i found the perfect spot. I'm sure others have had the same happen

 

[Guest]

Alot of time spots we think of as the coolest may have already been scoped by other growers that act alike and think alike. There is a bit of a collective mindset among growers. Twice last year i found 2 abandoned grows just as i thought i found the perfect spot. I'm sure others have had the same happen

lol, i know what you mean, one year scoping, saw 3 foot holes, bags of dirt, in middle of nowhere, lol

 

[Julian]

I'm actually really glad you said this, havent grown on 'random' property before, and as went spot 'smoking' the other day, liked a place, but thought just that, I'll drive back out sometime in next month, drive again, take a piss, drink a beer, maybe if i still like it, walk off some, take a fishing pole...whats a fisher gonna see...MAYBE even get dirt in there this winter, different car to come plant in, something to that effect....

not to pride myself so much or anything, lol, more to confirm your faith in us wreckless newbs, lol

Well, not so much faith as knowing how it actually works

Guess I was right....

Called that one, didn't I

Because been there, done that, and, trained enough in real life to know the thought processes and actions of 99%

I usually believe if someone has the capabilty to desire something, ie, intelligence of what they can do,want to do, then they have equal intelligence to perform it, IF attention to detail is paid.....If they got the go, or power to dream it, then its just up to them to DO IT

Sounds simple enough to me

(And, feel free to do however many you would like.........far be it from me to establish growing limits for all )

On a different note:
"Homegrown" fukin rocks!!!!!!!

Holy Shit!!!!!! I have to say....I expected some goofy, stupid comedy....but.....wow............WOW........"real"?....No...but, enough moments of 100% pure reality to get me shifting in my seat ....Didn't expect it......(Harvest scene is close...........as are many, many others...........)

Not real 100%, but, I'm ****in impressed.....all should see it, glad I did.....

 

[leaddraft]

Qutoe:
Well, farther and farther in you get the more you face different issues but I highly doubt anyone will be doing a ghetto grow (highest homeless, etc...I have some, but, I know where they all are pretty much ....)

STOP, right there...
I live in the "ghetto", if you can call it this...
YES, I've pulled off a grow here, NOT MUCH, though enough, too get Me and My wife through some though times, especialy if your sick, been in chemo, or what-ever the reason..
Or CANNOT afford smoke for what-ever reason, YET, tried My dernest too get "something" going..
Crap, I cannot even AFFORD cheap azzed seeds!
Though, with a seed from a Mexi plant left over from last years grow got me "something"... About a Zip thus far, unfinished bud, though enough too get Me and My wife though awlfull hard times..
Homelessness, RAMPANT/DRUNKS/crackheads.Ho's, I've got it ALL here!..
Yet, I managed one Lil girl, with a remaing Cola that I'm VERY PATIENTLY, intent on finishing out..
Yes there's "spots", I scouted out PLENTY..
What about that vacant Lot?
Hey theres a nice 50'X50' plot, weeded behind yonder church? Or back behing the convince store, that weeded Lot? A drainge ditch just outside the HOOD, at the end of the street?, good enough for a girl or 2,, tie'em down, nuture water, not often, just enough, too know they are growing..
MOST people ARE NOT looking for weed growin in such places! 50% loss means someone stumbled across it..
The FURTHER you get away from say, the ghetto/city means chopper flights/hunters in the fall/ fishermen/new construction.. Farmers Lands /National guard flyovers...
Endless paranoia and headaches..
Though inside City Limits or the "ghetto"...
Times say, 5 or 10 spots, maybe a 50% loss, well lord, you got "something" at harvest time...
Yeah, on the other hand, I wish I could grow indoor... I WILL, though I'm a parent, and don't really wish too ATM..
Look MJ is a weed.. It'll grow "anywhere"...
Just My .02, not meaning too jack the thread...
Peace, LD

 

[Julian]

Hidden in plane sight is a tough concept to swallow i guess until youve done it a few times.

Well......I've been doing it all so long....not much phases me......so...could understand that.....(kinda like when planes fly over and my guys dive into brush and I'm standing there saying "cmonnnnnnn, they're ****in tourists...we have work to do ) Again.......so many times...know what is what...know the sounds of different things (planes high, low, helicopters, low, close, high..tourists, regulars, private pilots in area, etc.....)

I really dont see it as any riskier than a guerrilla patch in the woods.

Well, in several ways, to me at least, much safer....ie: less travel time....harder to blend in if your the only ones around...etc.....

Plus, this issue has gotten overblown by people who never really read thread in first place, and, quote a sentence taken out of context.....

Urban is for mini's. Period. Smaller plants worked into surrounding in a place which one has surveyed many times and deemed a spot which seems good......Nothing more....

Limited size, limited exposure(time)..limited risk, not tended to. Period.

Alot of time spots we think of as the coolest may have already been scoped by other growers that act alike and think alike. There is a bit of a collective mindset among growers. Twice last year i found 2 abandoned grows just as i thought i found the perfect spot. I'm sure others have had the same happen

Me and my one guy come across peoples plots all the time....(we have even seen them tending....) We tend to do a lot more legwork/scout work alone...not so much when anyone else there, etc.....(because we try to keep entire knowledge from any single person....aka..."cell" approach.......no single person knows about all the spots.....(except me and one.....we know every single one, everywhere ...)

So far, for a long time now...never any problems....we never touch anything, nobody touches us...everyones happy.......

Yeah...."Homegrown".........not what I expected .........wow...

 

[Julian]

Qutoe:
STOP, right there...
I live in the "ghetto", if you can call it this...
YES, I've pulled off a grow here, NOT MUCH, though enough, too get Me and My wife through some though times, especialy if your sick, been in chemo, or what-ever the reason..
Or CANNOT afford smoke for what-ever reason, YET, tried My dernest too get "something" going..
Crap, I cannot even AFFORD cheap azzed seeds!
Though, with a seed from a Mexi plant left over from last years grow got me "something"... About a Zip thus far, unfinished bud, though enough too get Me and My wife though awlfull hard times..
Homelessness, RAMPANT/DRUNKS/crackheads.Ho's, I've got it ALL here!..
Yet, I managed one Lil girl, with a remaing Cola that I'm VERY PATIENTLY, intent on finishing out..
Yes there's "spots", I scouted out PLENTY..
What about that vacant Lot?
Hey theres a nice 50'X50' plot, weeded behind yonder church? Or back behing the convince store, that weeded Lot? A drainge ditch just outside the HOOD, at the end of the street?, good enough for a girl or 2,, tie'em down, nuture water, not often, just enough, too know they are growing..
MOST people ARE NOT looking for weed growin in such places! 50% loss means someone stumbled across it..
The FURTHER you get away from say, the ghetto/city means chopper flights/hunters in the fall/ fishermen/new construction.. Farmers Lands /National guard flyovers...
Endless paranoia and headaches..
Though inside City Limits or the "ghetto"...
Times say, 5 or 10 spots, maybe a 50% loss, well lord, you got "something" at harvest time...
Yeah, on the other hand, I wish I could grow indoor... I WILL, though I'm a parent, and don't really wish too ATM..
Look MJ is a weed.. It'll grow "anywhere"...
Just My .02, not meaning too jack the thread...
Peace, LD

I agree with all. Smart guy

Best of luck on finishing.....hoping for ya......sincerely......

Next seed order I make I will see what I can do for you...

Thing that lot of people overlook (and, surprises me, especially if veteran outdoor growers) is how many have walked right past their own plants..(****, I have, lot of times when earlier in season.....so...if a grower is walking past their own plants because in so well.....I think most would be surprised...especially when talking the small ones.......in veg?...my city ones?..I've had serious problems finding them all.....even end of season to cut...I always wonder how many leaving behind......)

 

[Guest]

Julian......


Lots of pissing contests... .....growers with diverse opinions.... ...

Brings back memories.......yuppies in elevators yada yada yada about SUV's, vacations in Turkey yada yada yada.


"Something for a rainy day" in your gallery is jaw dropping and all the proof I need to heed your advice.

All the ghetto references cannot describe vistas from commuter trains used by suburbanites. Nor can any description be adequate regarding working with the residents. The graduates of training programs forced upon goverment subsidized employers or contractors. My pet peeve with them is that I got my job on merit and had to do their job too. Growing anywhere in those neighborhoods would not be wise.


Your posts had me longing for a partner. It was a lot of work for little reward. Overcame destructive critter, toted 2 gallons water in backpack over 1 mile almost daily for weeks, and all before sunrise when the running path gets traffic. It was rehearsal for '08. Want to try some Afghan, my all time FAVE.

 

[Julian]

Julian......
Lots of pissing contests... .....growers with diverse opinions.... ...

Brings back memories.......yuppies in elevators yada yada yada about SUV's, vacations in Turkey yada yada yada.

Always......everyone does....and, never a problem.....

I care little about differences of opinions, SUV's or anything else .....you know...other shit's a different story.....

"Something for a rainy day" in your gallery is jaw dropping and all the proof I need to heed your advice.

...earlier in thread...not mine ...

All the ghetto references cannot describe vistas from commuter trains used by suburbanites. Nor can any description be adequate regarding working with the residents. The graduates of training programs forced upon goverment subsidized employers or contractors. My pet peeve with them is that I got my job on merit and had to do their job too. Growing anywhere in those neighborhoods would not be wise.

Well, that seems to be the problem.....any mention blankets an entire metro and surrounding....when we're talking who knows how many sq. miles...

I've done it, like it, serves me well, and, best product actually comes from them.....

Your posts had me longing for a partner. It was a lot of work for little reward. Overcame destructive critter, toted 2 gallons water in backpack over 1 mile almost daily for weeks, and all before sunrise when the running path gets traffic. It was rehearsal for '08. Want to try some Afghan, my all time FAVE.

Can be nice (partners).......lot of ways...I could list all the great things and list everything that pisses me off probably equally

My one bigger is only for the land..otherwise he's pretty much disposable...(I wish )......I would always keep my other one...(mechanic)...have had him for years.....like a brother...truly......

I don't always do same thing, same places, etc...all just depends on where and what I am at the time, have access to, etc......You do a little more and you always need help in some way shape or form...(Well, I do...I've got life on my plate like everyone else, so,...splitting things up between a couple/many different people kind of lessens the time any single person has to devote, etc....(This year though I was on it all the time...out a lot.....was pretty tiring.....wouldn't be surprised if 2hrs a day sleep a season......some days straight through..

2 gallons daily though....I don't have to know specifics to know there is a better way.......Has to be some areas where you can do something to make it a little easier....ie: Maybe spend more time prep and hole to cut down future trips, etc, etc........crystals......(every second day would be better...ya know?.....all about eliminating as much as possible.....(tasks).....You want to keep everything in mind when planning......easy to do it so your creating more work then necessary (I've done it ....)

 

[Julian]

"Commercial growing".........
What does it mean?.......what it is???? ........to me..."commercial" simply means a volume which would qualify in anyones mind (in anyones mind......) as amounts large enough to be sold, etc..enough to sell,etc.....(hence....technically...is someone who grows 3 lbs and sells 2 a "small commercial grower?????"

(Have a point ...bear with me.....)

To some......an statement regarding product which is substandard..........to some (maybe the same even).....practices which are substandard......or both........incorrectly dried...incorrectly cured....etc, etc....)

To others?.....they would even start the "They just do it for the money.....no love"...."Don't care about the plant, etc"..and a bunch of other things.......

(Personally....I don't really consider myself such...but I suppose amounts warrant and demand it, so....whatever ....a "grower" grows, right? ....so....wtf am I supposed to do them?? )....

But...........I'll tell ya.........

I've been pulling in money now since late August.(2 months now..had to check calender...), and......granted....it's nice.....it is.......of course......primary interest?.....well....I can't say I would say that...(ie: If could not do volume, would I for ps, etc....)

But....I can honestly say that I just had my beast moment of the season...

It wasn't picking up money.........it wasn't even being finished and safe.....

It was talking to someone about hanging out later, and, then, standing there scratching my head looking over endless things wondering which things I am going to bring to smoke....

That's my best moment so far of the season ....

Fukkkkkkkkkk the money

I decided on this (about an H.......pretty large and dense stuff...left to right, BOG SB,DP PP, The Pink/Lemon stuff, and unknown...could be anyones guess...those spots/bags were a lot of mixed things....)This is how the pink things turned out btw Pink dried out nice...was wondering how it would cure out(pink hairs cured out to a soft purple)....Some time on them now.....taste and smell an almost unbearable lemon fuel....definitely best quality next to Sour Bubble of this year...which has an extremely pronounced bubblegum to it..(more than previous mothers I have run in past...) .and, to anyone who has never tried bubblegum....well.....always been one of my favorites (taste...smell)...always one of my favorites....very unique........I think most would really like it....(SB my favorite for while...been smoking (and growing) for while (3 yrs????)....last batch I got from him were the last run I believe (Bx3??? 2.5?.....)

I don't know about anyone else.....but, that was the best moment this season (so far) this "commercial grower" has had ......

(Very pleased with quality......did run a lot of organics this year..(maybe 85% of total....)so, assume the difference....sometimes half and half...etc.....whenever I run out, just get more of whatever is safe...(ie: can get anywhere....)

Edit: I really don't smoke from like....whatever...maybe Jan/Feb until Sept or so......if it's not mine...I don't smoke..(occasionally, if nice things, but, will go without and not smoke if just regular around.......not a snob thing...just like the nice stuff......maybe here and there...but, yeah.....I usually dump everything quick and then bothering partners for something by January.....depends.......if they have it then they lay it on me until further notice..(where that generosity also comes in ...)...plus, then, don't really smoke while doing anything (op)....so.....

Note: And, I do a lot of mixing also when I roll....sometime half this and half that...sometimes 1/3rd this, 1/3rd that, etc, etc...all depends what I have on hand...I like rolling and smoking 10 that are completely different ...

 

[Julian]

Gallery, pictures...etc, etc.....

Personally?....If I wasn't doing thread...I think I would only have this one and this one.....

(Each picture in gallery, every one, attached to making a specific point in post, so.....)

Otherwise.....**** it....I think those two are my favorite

Edit: I die laughing because the first one was maybe a month or even 2 ago....no idea.....Where does the time go..........where does it go ....

 

[marto]

Wow nice plant, any soil prep? what strain? So, what are ya gonna do now? an indoor or outdoor prep. I dont see ya layin low...lol

 

[Julian]

Thanks man......all in thread brother.

(Well, not all... Thread and gallery started under new handle, so, all this only from mid way through....whatever start date of thread was. As above...I start planting early as possible.....sometimes late April, sometimes first week or two May..depends on season/weather, and how it looks...)

Well, I have a lot of stuff on my mind, and, saw an AK/Blueberry AF that peaked my interest, soooo..... Might do a seed run of a couple hundred really quick...(Anyone feel free to chime in about making it also a run for fems......fem AF's, etc........)

Otherwise just relaxing.....not really sure......have a lot of things I'm working on also (business matters...) would like to take a vacation....hopefully I will (planning on one, want one, could use one, but.........well...I'm a junkie..(work....) I'm scared not going to.......

 

[Julian]

Note: Not sure what or when or where ...(nor would I say if asked ), but, have been planning an AF project for quite a while, so.........at some point going to try and do a couple/several acres worth (hence the fems) in an early run (plant asap..May 1st, whenever weather allows) Just have to find right stock, and right spot......would be a "hit and run"......ie: Close property in mid April, have planted first week or so of May, wrap it up asap (10 weeks?) and close that shit down ....Guess all depends on what I can do with stock, and, of course, would have to plan it out.........what have to think about it......I do a lot, but, usually spread through the season...I've never germed like, 30,000 at same time, so, would have to pen the layout for set up, etc...(I wouldn't plant and germ out, never do, never have......would do them in pellets and as soon as good to go (maybe 5-7 days from germ) would plant.....)....I've done like 3-4,000 at a time for mini's.....so...would have to use that experience to try and map out veg/germ for them....

We'll see.......rest assured, I'm always around, and,when I do, some pics ...

Edit: 1 acre is about 200' x 200', which at 1 per sq. ft is about 40,000 (actually, acre is 43k sq. ft and some change).........now, a single acre in "the whole scheme" of things is not that impossible when talking mini's.....and, especially the time of year...(earlier in year, May-June-etc...)

It won't be done unless it's guaranteed............I'm a little more careful than most .....(already 2+yrs planning on it........just waiting and when right opportunity presents itself....ready to go full force on moments notice ).........always looking for new properties .....