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Massachusetts Grow 2020

'Boogieman'

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So, what are the effects of the disease ? Don't seem to be affecting growth.

It's very similar to witches broom, leaves will eventually curl and look sick, the purple turns black and keeps growing down the plants. It can spread very fast once the plant gets it. You are in the early stage of this disease, I would cut the infected branches before it gets worse. All my research indicates that this virus came from potato farmers, if you look up potato purple top disease it's the same thing. I tried everything this year to keep the leafhoppers at bay but I was unsuccessful and lost all my plants very rapidly this year. Perhaps some strains are more susceptible than others, I tried all 88g13hp crosses from Bodhi this year and every plant got hit bad.
 

kritios

Active member
Here are a couple of C99's I started in June. One grew indoor in my tent, the other outside in a raised bed.



The outdoor one endured a hailstorm, some caterpillar damage, and the odd leafminer. The indoor one got overcrowded (I think) and started stretching like crazy. I took this picture after a hard prune this morning, Probably will have to do more pruning to thin that growth and avoid mold. I didn't want to take off too much at once. I started flowering the indoor one a bit over 3 weeks ago, she's already starting to show.



The outdoor one is about 4 ft wide and maybe 5 ft tall. I put up the hortonova at the start of August, and the tops have grown almost 2 ft since then. I pulled 8 oz off one of these half this size last year, interested to see what this will yield.



Starting to think about next year and mix soil for same. Does anyone have a source in eastern or central MA for Promix BX? My local shop doesn't seem to stock it.

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unclefishstick

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It's very similar to witches broom, leaves will eventually curl and look sick, the purple turns black and keeps growing down the plants. It can spread very fast once the plant gets it. You are in the early stage of this disease, I would cut the infected branches before it gets worse. All my research indicates that this virus came from potato farmers, if you look up potato purple top disease it's the same thing. I tried everything this year to keep the leafhoppers at bay but I was unsuccessful and lost all my plants very rapidly this year. Perhaps some strains are more susceptible than others, I tried all 88g13hp crosses from Bodhi this year and every plant got hit bad.
leafhoppers suck! not a huge problem for me,but i managed to breed my own strain of them,had them at low levels for like 2 years...then i got organocide,a couple soil drenches got rid of them finally...and you can get it at home depot...dunno if it would work outdoors though...
 

star crash

We Will Get By ... We Will Survive
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Sometimes I get that purple shit on my outdoor plants ...it seems to affect them to various degrees also it also seems to be strain dependent...Some seem to get it worse than others
 

dirty-joe

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Sometimes I get that purple shit on my outdoor plants ...it seems to affect them to various degrees also it also seems to be strain dependent...Some seem to get it worse than others


I've observed the same thing, some on one plant or two, and not a speck on another strain right next to it.
 

dirty-joe

Well-known member
It's very similar to witches broom, leaves will eventually curl and look sick, the purple turns black and keeps growing down the plants. It can spread very fast once the plant gets it. You are in the early stage of this disease, I would cut the infected branches before it gets worse. All my research indicates that this virus came from potato farmers, if you look up potato purple top disease it's the same thing. I tried everything this year to keep the leafhoppers at bay but I was unsuccessful and lost all my plants very rapidly this year. Perhaps some strains are more susceptible than others, I tried all 88g13hp crosses from Bodhi this year and every plant got hit bad.


@boggieman, Thanks for the heads up about this.
I had no idea it was this serious, and very sorry it wiped you out.
For some reason I don't think my case is that dire, I mean it (one plant) has had some purpling for a long time, roughly a couple of months now.


In any case I can't believe how the moderators here work, to block a link with potentially important information that may help MANY of it's members is ludicrous. It should not matter if it was on a similar type of forum, if it's for the good of the community as a whole, and in a PM no less.
 

Zeez

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Seven of my eight best seed plants turned out to be males. A buddy had some seeds and had the same problem, weird. Ended up going with the second string. Still not bad.

Next year paying Phylos for genetic sexing. Money well spent.

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gsxr97

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Second string looks pretty damn good Zeez! I think for your situation or others like it, getting few tested makes total sense.

Seven of my eight best seed plants turned out to be males. A buddy had some seeds and had the same problem, weird. Ended up going with the second string. Still not bad.

Next year paying Phylos for genetic sexing. Money well spent.

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Zeez

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Second string looks pretty damn good Zeez! I think for your situation or others like it, getting few tested makes total sense.

It's not a big deal getting tested. $15 each and it saves a huge amount of work and work space. In the end, it's a big plus for productivity bc it lets you focus on the plants that are potentially keepers. I culled some very big, well developed plants.
 

NENugger

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Seven of my eight best seed plants turned out to be males. A buddy had some seeds and had the same problem, weird. Ended up going with the second string. Still not bad.

Next year paying Phylos for genetic sexing. Money well spent.

I feel for you Zeez, have you seen this thread? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=207699

I got a loupe and pretty much learned we can tell by the 5th node what sex it is. At least 95% accurately.
Getting to that point in your grow and having that many males must be a huge bummer, plus waste of space for great fems. Plus it wouldn't be necessary to use Philos to sex a plant. Better to spend the dough on learning about your females genetic family, thc and terps instead. You the man with that excellent greenhouse you built, hate to see unwanted males taking up that space.
 

Zeez

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I feel for you Zeez, have you seen this thread? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=207699

I got a loupe and pretty much learned we can tell by the 5th node what sex it is. At least 95% accurately.
Getting to that point in your grow and having that many males must be a huge bummer, plus waste of space for great fems. Plus it wouldn't be necessary to use Philos to sex a plant. Better to spend the dough on learning about your females genetic family, thc and terps instead. You the man with that excellent greenhouse you built, hate to see unwanted males taking up that space.

Thanks man. I looked pretty close and really wanted to be sure. I will definitely put more time into studying early signs.

Two more killed off today bringing the body count to 11.

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gsxr97

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I’m talking with phylos . With first time discount comes to 13.45 a test. I might spring for 28 of them . Really like to have more space for plants to veg without having to increase space by a bunch .

If I do the Phylos test I’ll let you know how it goes.
 

Zeez

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ICMag Donor
I’m talking with phylos . With first time discount comes to 13.45 a test. I might spring for 28 of them . Really like to have more space for plants to veg without having to increase space by a bunch .

If I do the Phylos test I’ll let you know how it goes.

Thanks.
Each of those culls was worth way more to me than the cost of the test. Putting all that time into finding the best females is a good move.

It will be interesting to find out how it goes, how fast they give results, and how accurate they are.

I've still got work to do breaking down the stump collection.
 

'Boogieman'

Well-known member
Thanks.
Each of those culls was worth way more to me than the cost of the test. Putting all that time into finding the best females is a good move.

It will be interesting to find out how it goes, how fast they give results, and how accurate they are.

I've still got work to do breaking down the stump collection.

I always take a bottom cut and put it in a glass of water under 12/12. In two weeks you will know the sex of the plant. It's really easy some even root for me.
 

Zeez

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In an ideal world that works. I was watching pretty close and couldn't tell.
It's likely that different strains are more or less identifiable, but in any event my experience is mostly growing with clones or feminized seeds. I'll keep trying to get better at it.

For me the idea of getting it done and getting on with the show is easily worth 15 bucks.
 
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