The old way was to autoclave or pressure cook... my newer method involves throwing them away.
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The old way was to autoclave or pressure cook... my newer method involves throwing them away.
I just open them outdoors and bury them in the garden. I've even had small outdoor harvests doing this. At your own risk of course.
Think I might have opened outside and filled with water in past. That way when shaking the crap out of jar to break it up spores would not go everywhere.
Be careful because some of the contamination could very well be toxic.
I can't afford to risk my health if I can help it.
A gal on mycotopia fell deathly ill after opening a few jars... she recovered but it took months.
im not sure what fatal level are but we knew we were close definitely in over our heads with that ordeal i was just a helping hand once steppin inside the room could tell somthin in the air.never forget that run plucked so many my fingers were stained blue for days and days
what?
fully colonized jars will be one mass, iirc & there will be no spores until they fruit and break veil.
He's talking about other molds and fungi/bacteria.
Some of those spores are toxic, and their life cycles and sporulation mechanisms differ considerably, (Aspergillum being a typical example).
that wasn't exactly clear to me.
one could use hydrogen peroxide to eliminate those...or isopropyl alcohol. sure.
better sterile methods would be a better IPM than wasting time and effort, imo.
one could use hydrogen peroxide to eliminate those...or isopropyl alcohol. sure.
better sterile methods would be a better IPM than wasting time and effort, imo.
Talking about contaminated jars. Had a BRF cake recently that colonized, and went grey. Fortunately that was wide mouth and came right out. Planning ahead in case any quart grain jars go bad. Have also thought of UVC in a reflective box so light hits everywhere.
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Just wondering if analog hygrometers are still best for fruiting chambers. In the old days learned the hard way that digital ones died at around 90% humidity. Are there cheap digital ones now that will survive?
Found some with external sensors for about $3. Just hoping the sensor does humidity and not just temperature.
Found some with external sensors for about $3. Just hoping the sensor does humidity and not just temperature.
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forgive me not following every post to understand about the contamination. my bad.
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moose eater
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Pastel-colored and black molds are your greater concerns in your jars, and can even take place during and after fruiting your cakes, as well as after inoculation, sometimes in minimal view.
Why I always insisted on eating/testing my own home-grown mushrooms before transferring to anyone else; if someone was going to get sick, or worse, there was less bad karma and liability if that person was me.
Why I always insisted on eating/testing my own home-grown mushrooms before transferring to anyone else; if someone was going to get sick, or worse, there was less bad karma and liability if that person was me.
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I used blue painter's tape on my perforated lids when I sterilized the medium in the jars and would peel back the blue tape far enough to insert the sterilized spore syringe tip when I inoculated, then replaced the tape afterward. Only had one failure that I can recall, and every jar from that syringe failed, leading me to believe it was a contaminated syringe from the start. And my spore source sent me a coupon for a free syringe, as they do any time there's a problem, or sometimes, 'just because'. They've been my go-to for spore syringes for decades. Honest, helpful people and very reasonably priced.
I have lifetime supply of micropore tape, since can only buy 12 rolls. The shotgun fruiting chamber is a large clear bin, with I think 1/8th inch holes every 2 inches on every surface. Had never seen someone cover the holes with micropore tape which breathes but no mold can pass. Was just wondering if that was a good or bad idea. I do not recall from 15 years ago, but do not think I ever had a tray go bad once fully colonized. Would be easy to cover the holes, but wondering if it is bad idea and will prevent enough fresh air exchange. Lost my login at shroomery so created new account, and no one replies to new member posts.
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Never used that set-up or tape.
Early on did the classic aquarium with custom aluminum framed lexan lid and an internal diagonally mounted lexan atomizer lid inside to spray against.
Doing it that way with a spray/mister bottle, there's lots of removing of the lid, either to mist, or to suction excess moisture/water from the bottom of the aquarium, and especially as the vitality of the cakes wanes, they can get more easily infected.as, but it was what I had rigged back then.
