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That kind of idea^^ is why I like macs, in addition to the widgets
That's a Linux desktop. Don't go bringing more operating systems into this!
That kind of idea^^ is why I like macs, in addition to the widgets
Alright... so I asked for clarification earlier but I think everyone just looked it over.
What the fuck are we debating here?
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Yup, superior to off the shelf PCs, easier to use, and harder to ass up.Apple is way more top of the line than 95% of the PC competition... duh.
Point is the other 5% use high quality parts that work together just as well as Apple... It only takes one silly twat to fuck up any computer, period.
Top of the line PC = Mac, the choice is opinion/preference.
Got that in your noggin yet chippy?
it was infinitely easier than doing so with a pc
why is almost everything easier on a mac??? it is truly amazing.
the productivity increase makes the few flaws of a mac so worth it, still
Thread = "mac vs. PC - the great debate". It's all there in the title of the thread. It's not. What is a Mac? What is a PC?
1) OSX = superior operating system
-Opinion
2) Mac components vs PC components = can always be draw if you actually know what sort of crap a pc manufacturer uses or build your own.
-So we're comparing a single companies prebuilt computers (Apple) to hundreds of companies that put PCs together and use Windows? How does that have any relevance?
3) Viruses et al. = LOL. Do you not know the answer to this one?
-I have used PCs heavily for 6 years. I've never paid a cent for antivirus, and I almost never run any kind of antivirus. Guess how many problems I've had... ZERO. Stupid users = viruses.
4) Ease of use = see answer to #3.
-You're right, for people that don't know what they're doing and download any shit they come across on the internet, Mac is a safer option. Do they let Mac owners use knives? They should probably just stick to spoons so they don't hurt themselves.
5) Cost of ownership = Hands down a Mac. I own both and use both in business/office and home, and have build 2 pc gamers. That is unless your time is worth shit, let alone the ongoing cost of antivirus subscriptions, constant re-installs and buying a new pc every 2 or 3 years. Macs continue to beat ps's and MS in legacy compatibility
-As I said before. I don't pay for antivirus. When I do reinstall it costs me nothing, and does not happen often. If you buy a new PC every 2 or 3 years, you're making poor purchases with little to no foresight.
6) Productivity = Macs. Even MS Office 2008 for the Mac is easier and faster to use then the current pc version, let alone ALL other software.
-Easier and faster? Easier is an opinion. Faster is dependent on the hardware. Your statement that all Mac software is faster than PC software is downright stupid.
7) Bundled software = Mac. iPhoto, iTunes, iDVD, iMovie are all superior and easier to use then anything in the pc world, including paid versions of anywhere close to their price.
-Opinion
8) do I need to continue?
-If you want to make a valid point, you probably should.
When I dropped my daughter off at UCSB as a freshman 8 years ago, maybe 15 o 20% of the students used macs. Now it is 50%. My son at a top engineering school is at least 50%.
-Are these actual statistics, anecdotal evidence, or numbers you pulled out of your ass?
Net effect? 15 years ago, MS's argument was "Businesses use Windows". Now and during the next 10 years, Macs will be dragged into enterprise by these graduating students who know what you didn't, that MS lied to you and to the world by saying you needed MS to be in business. And Macs will get there without ever targeting the enterprise. Why? A) Because cloud computing is making dependency on MS obsolete and 2) Because most people (unlike you) are not married to MS. They just want to get their fucking work done and go to the gym and out to dinner.
Married to MS? Not quite.
Go away or bring some facts to the discussion.
You should take your own advice.
This bullshit was addressed about 200 posts ago. You can't play any shity games on your pc that cannot be played on a mac. If they don't make a mac version of the game, you simply boot into bootcamp (native windoz) or switch on the fly using parallels or VMware.
But before that you simply have to buy VMware Fusion 3 and Windows licenses. Also any virtual machine software will take away from the resources from the host machine.
And why would you want to log into Windows? Aren't we talking about how superior Macs are and thats why you bought a Mac to get away from Windows. You got me confused.
You don't buy a mac "to get away from windows".
You buy a mac because you like using stuff that works as it is designed to. Apple users are not "windows haters", they just have a preference and have very good reasons for having it.
You are not in any virtual machine when you boot into windows through boot camp (which comes free with each mac) all you have to buy is the windows license (if you do not have access to a volume license).
For a laugh I thought I'd post up the desktop of my gaming rig:
http://i43.tinypic.com/1t3dl3.jpg
I'm running Windows 7 on that set-up, and it looks almost identical to a Macintosh.
So you've never had to jump through hoops to get something to work properly on a windows machine? kudos to you then, you are in a small crowd.Wait wait let me get this straight my two Dell notebooks and my brand spanking new Dell XPS 9000 were not designed to work the way a computer was designed to work? So you're saying my video, sound card and etc.. "just doesn't work" and I'm missing out on some "just works" Mac computing experience?
Whatever, bro... I've used both and mac works more smoothly... Windows is constantly playing catch up... don't take it so personally... I'm no windows hater, I use what gives a better experience. The point? I think you need to re-read all my posts in this thread if you don't get it still... The point is I have had the ability to run windows on my mac (for free) for years and have NEVER had one reason to do so.... But if i do have some single solitary quirk of a reason, I can do it.Well then now you're back into Windows running on "Brand Name" priced hardware, so what was the point of using a "just not quite there experience" Mac in the first place?
But before that you simply have to buy VMware Fusion 3 and Windows licenses. Also any virtual machine software will take away from the resources from the host machine.
And why would you want to log into Windows? Aren't we talking about how superior Macs are and thats why you bought a Mac to get away from Windows. You got me confused.
♥Mo♥;3322987 said:As noted earlier we have two debates going. Windows OS vs Mac OS, and Mac vs PC. Two very different entities all together. I too have been in IT for many years. My personal opinion as to which is better is simple. I believe the PC to be a better machine only because a PC can be built cheaply and easily by the common person or a PC can be a highly sophisticated built machine put together by professionals or someone with experience in the vast array of hardware available to the PC. In regards to Windows and Mac OS getting viruses I believe that seeing as Windows and even as early as the Microsoft DOS OS were built from UNIX commands as Apple is, it is not like the Mac cannot or has not ever gotten a virus, they have. So has Linux, I believe the hackers simply choose to target Microsoft as a vendetta for their years of shady business practices.
Regarding Microsoft's shady business practices, look up how Microsoft paid $10,000 for DOS and left the original inventor hanging, or how Xerox just handed Microsoft the mouse GUI. Cool thread.
I guess you missed the part where I also mentioned boot camp. It's there for high end gaming and for cheapskates. either way, boot camp runs windoz as fast or faster then any pc.
so there you go.
pssst. boot camp is free and can be run on any intel mac. You still have to spend $120 for a shitty copy of windoz though.
So you've never had to jump through hoops to get something to work properly on a windows machine? kudos to you then, you are in a small crowd.
Whatever, bro... I've used both and mac works more smoothly... Windows is constantly playing catch up... don't take it so personally.b.. I'm no windows hater, I use what gives a better experience.
The point is I have had the ability to run windows on my mac (for free) for years and have NEVER had one reason to do so.... But if i do have some single solitary quirk of a reason, I can do it.
Its a boot manger, nothing that hasn't been done for ever. At the end you still go into Windows (Strange why would you go back into windows since a MAC is so superior) running on over priced hardware that most modern OS can run on.
I use Linux Mint 99% of the time and log into Home XP through virtual box if i need something thats Windows only. I could care less about windows.