IWanaGetHiSoHi
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Hmmm. Is the pot telling the kettle not to be black? You never have the need to do what with these arcane games?
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Mac vs. PC - the great debate
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Bud Bug
Sorry but thats natively in a Windows OS on hardware labeled as a Mac. It if was natively on a MAC that would mean OS X could run it on Mac labeled hardware with out dual booting or emulation/virtual machine.
Yes those silly games that no one plays on a Mac
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Bud Bug
It says your sons users are careless with their OS, if it was hardware I suspect he wouldn't be logging in to fix it. As for loggin in, any with a blackberry or a treo could have done that with SSH years before the iPhone was around.
MoldyFrogToe
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i learned what bonjour [lol] was today which actually is pretty cool
1. What is Bonjour?
Bonjour, also known as zero-configuration networking, enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks. Bonjour uses industry standard IP protocols to allow devices to automatically discover each other without the need to enter IP addresses or configure DNS servers. Specifically, Bonjour enables automatic IP address assignment without a DHCP server, name to address translation without a DNS server, and service discovery without a directory server. Bonjour is an open protocol which Apple has submitted to the IETF as part of the ongoing standards-creation process. To learn more, check out the Bonjour Protocol Specifications which detail the technologies that make up Link-Local and Wide-Area Bonjour.
http://developer.apple.com/networking/bonjour/faq.html
1. What is Bonjour?
Bonjour, also known as zero-configuration networking, enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks. Bonjour uses industry standard IP protocols to allow devices to automatically discover each other without the need to enter IP addresses or configure DNS servers. Specifically, Bonjour enables automatic IP address assignment without a DHCP server, name to address translation without a DNS server, and service discovery without a directory server. Bonjour is an open protocol which Apple has submitted to the IETF as part of the ongoing standards-creation process. To learn more, check out the Bonjour Protocol Specifications which detail the technologies that make up Link-Local and Wide-Area Bonjour.
http://developer.apple.com/networking/bonjour/faq.html
Is this over your head? Must be.
My comment was to tell you that I for m=one am not impressed that you use linux to log into anything. We can do the same shit from a phone. Linux. pfft. How's that working for you? LOL
I run a Red Hat port to the Mac OS called Yellow Dog Linux just to run a single application - i.e. BlueFish - other than that, eh? Where's the beef?
Linux certainly has its place - as in servers but for most folks trying to configure Linux for a desktop OS it has its challenges. Something that 'most' of the consumers have rejected.
It's a geek thing - and in that paradigm it's a killer OS. For the masses? Not so much, IMHO
YMMV
CC
Linux certainly has its place - as in servers but for most folks trying to configure Linux for a desktop OS it has its challenges. Something that 'most' of the consumers have rejected.
It's a geek thing - and in that paradigm it's a killer OS. For the masses? Not so much, IMHO
YMMV
CC
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Bud Bug
I repeat it again Macboy
As for loggin in, anyone with a blackberry or a treo could have done that with SSH years before the iPhone was around.
Whats so special about using a phone to log into someone computer? Don't know where you go the me log in into another system with linux box.
Actually its stable as any desktop OS can be. Whats really weird is I too can use a boot loader to log into windows when I need to, which is only for games which I don't play but the kids do. As for me I magically in my inferior linux desktop OS login into virtual box and load up XP Home, usually to run couple of obsolete aps that I need once in a while. Yah strange how I can use Linux Mint 10 hours per day with no hick ups.
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Bud Bug
Unless you got some ancient hardware there are tons of Linux desktop distro's that will work with most new hardware right out of the box. I switched 4 people over last year to OpenSuse and Linux Mint with 0 problems. Since most don't play games everything that Windows XP/Vista has to offer is already available.
I got my XPS 9000 system last month. Loaded up Linux Mint 8 and Windows 7 as dual boot. Every piece of hardware was recognized buy Mint even the ATI card with 3d support and my Dell monitor which needed drivers for windows to get the highest resolution.
Yah not desktop friendly at all.
LOL. Yeah as CC says above. Played at linux about 7 years ago and it sorta reminded me of eating a tofu burger. No beef.
You'd have to be a geek to use it. Have to be a strange geek to brag about it. Have to be a near sighted geek to think it more productive then either windows or osx. Have to be a child abuser to make your kids play in that sandbox too. Have to be on the low side of the iq scale not to know that linux plays nice as a server but is not as well suited as a work/play machine as the other os's we are discussing.
so anyway, we now know who and what we are dealing with here. Someone who jumped on the linux bandwagon early on and as it veered towards serverville (linux tried to make me like her but she didn't have any tits to speak of), didn't have the perspective to give up the ghost or to just put the linux box in the closet to serve movies to your tv. unimpressive at best.
sigh.
irishrevolution
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Great debate and I want to put in my 2 cents. Mac runs a X58 - x86 chipset configuration or the use of integrated circuits, the way they choose to use energy inside of northbridge is more efficient then pc's. lots of 2010 pc's use a G43 chipset. ENTIRELY different config... this is only one reason these computers run differently and a note on installing operating systems on pc's and mac's. doing a reverse install ex OSX (X86 version) onto a pc (G43 version). The chipset config needs to be the same or it isn't going to work properly, so finding compatible versions can be difficult.
irishrevolution
New member
and another note, the iPad sucks and i wouldn't waste my money on it. I like apple a lot they're are great innovators and they're business model is successful because they care about their job. I respect what they do. but I will never throw money at them. Most things I buy from apple are used and I've never had an apple product break ever. I've dropped iTouch's iPod's (scratched and bruised, never broken.) I've dropped laptops, never broke. I've turned on an xbox before and had that break, but didn't drop it. every pc I've ever had ends up crashing. I admit I run my computer equipment hard, and i've broken every pc I've had. BUT I'm using a pc now. they're cheap, relatively easy to fix. I do have a problem with windows becoming excessively user-friendly. taking away awesome mod programs like ms-config, reg-edit, even dos prompts??!!! I will never upgrade from xp i like it....vista and 7 or wtv the fuck it is now... new software every 1/2 year is unnecessary. MAC's aren't susceptible to viruses and most common hacking forms... I like Mac because they're dedicated to the needs of the consumer and keep a sharp eye on the market. i'm done.
♥Mo♥
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huh???
Not sure where you got that from, but what I was merely getting at is the thread has basically two debates going on. The original post appeared to want to know what was better, a pc(machine) or MAC(machine). The thread has grown to be as much about MAC and Windows software as it has about the two "very" different machines MAC and PC.IT technology is almost like religion and if you are not very articulate as to what you are talking about you get lost in the noise. With the advent of virtual machines, Linux and many other OS's now available one can no longer assume anything in regards to software and the machines they run on.
The OP simply noted the cost of MAC vs PC, again simply stated PC(machine) is a better buy because of the many hardware options available to it. The sky is technically the limit PC wise. When you put down 3-7K for a MAC, that is what you have. I guess in a nutshell, companies like IBM, HP, etc... tried the proprietary thing years ago and it pretty much failed by pissing everyone off giving them no real options for upgrade without going to said company for an upgrade.
Hope that clarified it for ya.
♥Mo♥;3328662 said:huh???
IT technology is almost like religion and if you are not very articulate as to what you are talking about you get lost in the noise. With the advent of virtual machines, Linux and many other OS's now available one can no longer assume anything in regards to software and the machines they run on.
The OP simply noted the cost of MAC vs PC, again simply stated PC(machine) is a better buy because of the many hardware options available to it. The sky is technically the limit PC wise. When you put down 3-7K for a MAC, that is what you have. I guess in a nutshell, companies like IBM, HP, etc... tried the proprietary thing years ago and it pretty much failed by pissing everyone off giving them no real options for upgrade without going to said company for an upgrade.
Hope that clarified it for ya.
No it did not. you cannot separate the FACT that when you buy a mac it comes with osx. Do you think this is discussion on the components inside the respective boxes? It is not.
And your statement that regarding "a better buy" was debunked many posts ago and also many years ago. Where do you live that you spend 3 to 7K for a mac? LOL
but I am glad you like what works for you
MoldyFrogToe
Member
I think you could easily divide this discussion into hardware vs software etc why not. Mo you had a good point!
grapeman - Have you read any of the posts in this thread, or do you just like to post nonsense?
LOL - depends on my mood really. But this thread isn't
"who uses the best/cheapest components, Macs or pc's"?
It's Mac vs PC - the great debate. HTF you are separating out what makes a pc or makes a mac..... their respective operating system, then declaring a pc a better buy? It's the total experience that is the debate IMO, not how cheap yu can build a box w/o an OS installed.
Give some thought to your dumb ass posts & arguments.
I have build thousands, yes thousands of PC's since 1990. I have worked on hundreds of MAC's. To each his own. Each side can argue back and forth forever and never convince the other guy. Its like Ford or Chevy. But Just like I'm a Chevy guy, I'm a PC guy. But that is only cause I manage 18 remote networks...most of the software I run, runs on MS or Unix platform.
Where did you get that info??? All three of those programs are still there!!
If you stay on XP you will never be able to take full advantage of new hardware. vista sucks but 64bit 7 is not that bad. If you have good hardware, you should check it out. Its fast
Where did you get that info??? All three of those programs are still there!!
If you stay on XP you will never be able to take full advantage of new hardware. vista sucks but 64bit 7 is not that bad. If you have good hardware, you should check it out. Its fast
