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one of the things i look for when buying kelp meal is the %salt
also ecklonia maxima is an excellent and unique kelp source.

Do you happen to have the analysis of the ecklonia that you can compare to this? And can you expand as to why its unique? Is it the manufacturer or the actual species of kelp. I've never heard of it nor did I look into it.

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P-NUT

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I got a decent deal on kelp from ohio earth foods its sea-min brand says the exact same analysis on the bag and its from canada so I assume its the same as acadian seaplants but someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
 

Scrappy4

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I got a decent deal on kelp from ohio earth foods its sea-min brand says the exact same analysis on the bag and its from canada so I assume its the same as acadian seaplants but someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

My somewhat local feed store let me order kelp meal in 50lb bags. $54. They have it as a high end horse feed, even if your feed store doesn't carry it, ask about ordering. I need up getting two and using one on our vegetable garden. And yes its the same stuff.
 
Do you happen to have the analysis of the ecklonia that you can compare to this? And can you expand as to why its unique? Is it the manufacturer or the actual species of kelp. I've never heard of it nor did I look into it.

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ecklonia maxima is a species. it is the fastest growing kelp found so far in the ocean. It is a liquid (sometimes found as a reconstitutable powder) it is used as a foliar or root drench for its auxin and cytokinin activity.
 

milkyjoe

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Kelp lives in the ocean...it cannot possibly be water soluble or it could not exist. It has to be treated with KOH to make it water soluble...that is not what you want for organic soil. Check the npk...the water soluble stuff will be over 10% K
 

Weird

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You confidence betrays reality

http://www.kelpak.com/at_a_glance/processing.html

in order to preserve the sensitive components of the kelp same day processing occurs. The seaweed is sorted, cut into manageable sizes and washed.

From here the cleaned material is inspected and progressively reduced. Due to the compressible nature of the Ecklonia particles, they are able to be subjected to extremely high pressure. This induces a degree of potential energy into each particle, which, when passed at high velocity through to a low pressure zone, effects the instant release of this energy, where the resulting expansion exceeds the elastic limit of the cell wall of the seaweed, causing it to rupture and release its valuable contents. The powerful hormones are thus released. This unique Kelpak process is known as Cold Cellular-Burst Technology.

This process extracts the cell contents without the use of chemicals, heat, freezing or dehydration, thereby releasing many valuable compounds in their natural form. The result is a powerful yet environment-friendly Biostimulant.
 

milkyjoe

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So we squeeze the blood out of it and that just happens to be where all the "good" stuff is...right dr oz
 

Weird

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lol lower your skirt jr. your letting your bloomers show

ain't no blood in kelp, and there aren't any chemicals or non organic methodologies involved as you claimed

you shouldn't be so quick to defend your mistakes
 
Kelp lives in the ocean...it cannot possibly be water soluble or it could not exist. It has to be treated with KOH to make it water soluble...that is not what you want for organic soil. Check the npk...the water soluble stuff will be over 10% K
Yes this is the affect of an inorganic like Potash, but I'm trying to reconcile what is assumed happens at the soil level contrasted with its use in foliar.
 
@ MJ, weird; sounds like making rosin ~but w/ kelp?

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Yes, cold-press which goes back to rape seed oil presses. However, going that far back there was a nominal amount of heat used as is the case with most modern kelp extract-based products. By comparison rosin's challenge is prolonged heat and THC converting to CBN.

We can find kelp in absolute form as well, curiously kelp extracts are also available in fertilizers which originate from common extract processes, but the challenge as regards agriculture is kelp's unwillingness to mix when extract is placed in another liquid carrier. This is why the typical solution in soluble form is to use Potassium hydroxide (caustic potash) to break down the surface area of kelp. Even when KOH is applied the dried product is a thick sinewy cloud in water, never truly dispersing and sinking rather quickly after a mix is made. Aeration does prolong kelp's soluble ability, yet I've never ran across a kelp product at a finer micron size i.e., 25.
 

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