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DrFever

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problem with using chicken shit wiring lol is buds grow into it its a cock suker come harvest time cause you litterally got to rip them apart , i prefer string takes a little time going from one end to other keeping it tight you let off lol and petty much start all over but string is the bomb cause once harvest time comes you cut string and drop you table you at plants now if any buds grown into string simple very easy pull string out of it with wire again your fucked
looking good weird one pic looked like scrog was more support then actual table "__"

I do scrog its all i do did 5 plant 4.75 pound dry 2k
then went 12 plant 5 x 15 scrog table 3k 7 3/4 pound dry plus 3/4 pound of HASH so really 8.5 pounds of goods
 

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Lapides

Rosin Junky and Certified Worm Wrangler
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Holy snikes! I'd burn my grow room and start over! I freak if I see more than 10 or so bugs on mine.

I've seen pictures of your grow and can find at least 5 other reasons for you to burn your grow room down and start over.
 

PWF

Active member
i put used grounds in my soil tubs.
my granny put them in her garden back in the 60's-70's.
if you want to learn about organic gardening i suggest getting as many old Rodale books as you can find.
there are a bunch ranging from composting to pruning to mulching. i have a bunch.
bacteria form biofilm from fucking shitting and dying.
fungus exude acids to dissolve the biofilm-and rocks and minerals- to feed.
the symbiotic relation between roots and fungus causes roots to exude acids also aiding the fungus.
bacteria also feed on fungus and predate each other and fungus eats bacteria and even larger organisms like nematodes.
i keep an old coffee mug next to the coffee pot to pour the old cold leftover coffee into and i use about 1/4 cup to a gal of water along with old moldy organic grape juice and i used to add molasses but have been cutting back at the advise of Dr Elaine Ingham. idk i may start it back up. scientists have been wrong before.
if you eat it your plants quite probably can too. meat too. just needs processing. the dirt is like a plants digestive tract.
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
Veteran
lol I didnt use chicken wire for anything but to use the scrog as a shelf after I was done.
 

FatherEarth

Active member
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A diaphragm pump under 60 psi will prevent destroying your microbes from cavitation. When I was into compost teas I used a
High Flo gold Series 2.1 gpm for foliar applications. You can see some of the details of the foliar setup in the Big Soil thread.
For the record Ive stopped brewing compost teas all together. Ive started inoculating with more microbes and using enzymes as well as foliar applications with fantastic results. I cant truly say all the brewing and spraying and great effort I put toward making compost teas ever paid off like using the right microbial products. Not saying plant teas arent good they certainly have their place. I just no longer mess with compost tea brewing etc.


Respectfully,

FE


FTR I've gone back to brewing teas! Lol ;)
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
Veteran
You use the word sustainability a lot. What does that mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainability

In ecology, sustainability is how biological systems remain diverse and productive. Long-lived and healthy wetlands and forests are examples of sustainable biological systems. In more general terms, sustainability is the endurance of systems and processes. The organizing principle for sustainability is sustainable development, which includes the four interconnected domains: ecology, economics, politics and culture.[1] Sustainability science is the study of sustainable development and environmental science.[2]
Healthy ecosystems and environments are necessary to the survival of humans and other organisms. Ways of reducing negative human impact are environmentally-friendly chemical engineering, environmental resources management and environmental protection. Information is gained from green chemistry, earth science, environmental science and conservation biology. Ecological economics studies the fields of academic research that aim to address human economies and natural ecosystems.



Batad rice terraces, The Philippines —UNESCO World Heritage site


Moving towards sustainability is also a social challenge that entails international and national law, urban planning and transport, local and individual lifestyles and ethical consumerism. Ways of living more sustainably can take many forms from reorganising living conditions (e.g., ecovillages, eco-municipalities and sustainable cities), reappraising economic sectors (permaculture, green building, sustainable agriculture), or work practices (sustainable architecture), using science to develop new technologies (green technologies, renewable energy and sustainable fission and fusion power), to adjustments in individual lifestyles that conserve natural resources.
Despite the increased popularity of the use of the term "sustainability", the possibility that human societies will achieve environmental sustainability has been, and continues to be, questioned—in light of environmental degradation, climate change, overconsumption, population growth and societies' pursuit of indefinite economic growth in a closed system.[3][4]
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
Veteran
fats are saturated, polyunsaturated, or monounsaturated. Regardless of origin, the type of fat is what dictates the speed of which the carbon chains are broken down and the fatty acids are made available.

Good to see it's ok to experiment and do your own thing now. With that tone you might get some input from some really smart people...

It is always encouraged to experiment and contribute as long as it is within ti context of the thread topic

Not many "smart" dudes dedicating themselves to sustainability but "smart " that used to be here, CC, didn't leave because of me.

The whole crew left because they couldn't have a place to call their own were the focus would stay on the methodology they were employing.

They got tired of people taking away from the focus.

Talking about composting is very LOS, transitional gardening not so much.

Maybe smart doesn't think there is a potential to teach people who can't understand simple dynamics like those.
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
Veteran
lol at old people who cant use a computer, your on one know.

learn to chew gum and walk at the same time,. Answering you was a courtesy, your being a dick about it was not.
 

milkyjoe

Senior Member
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I found some wild flax meal...30% protein (so like 4.something % N) and 7% fat, I am guessing mostly omega 3. Should be right up there with neem meal as an amendment.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
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I recently started a tote of rols. By far the easiest method of growing I have encountered, and I will continue on this path for sure. Here's various pics of my current (first run) in a 15gal no till with living mulch, amended with coots mix, weekly foliars, monthly top dressings, and teas here and there.



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Cannavore

Well-known member
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hell yea! welcome to organics cannavore!

the plants look great!

thanks man, i've been pseudo organic for a few years now. the base of this mix is actually the recycled sphagnum peat that i've been using since then. now i'm pretty much off all bottled stuff with the exception of a bottle of neptunes harvest fish and seaweed that i have left over that i don't want to waste.
 

kasvi

Member
Hello.
I am sorry if these questions have been answered already in this or other long threads that talk about organic growing, rols and no-till.
I have not read those threads fully yet but have read Teaming with microbes, Teaming with nutrients, One straw revolution, soul of soil and few books about growing cannabis, so I have some kind of idea what I am supposed to do, but i need help with few things.
I was going to use one of BurnOne's mixes but I think that I will start no-till garden using Gascanastan's mix in 3 gallon diy fabric pots with blumats with living mulch.

Questions I have:
1. Can I use bone meal at same dose as fish bone meal?
2. Can potassium sulfate be used as subsitude for langbeinite if so at what dose?
3. Can I use horse poo compost as subsitude for compost?

I am open to any sugestions if I should do something diferently.
Thank you for your time and sorry for my english I am finnish.
 

Granger2

Active member
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Compare analyses of the products, and adjust amounts accordingly. If the horse poo is well composted/aged, you can. I'd let the mix cook for a full month, keeping it moist. I don't know about the K2SO4. I think it's much more soluble than the langbienite, and I suspect that it will flush out of the mix very soon. Good luck. -granger
 

kasvi

Member
Thank you for reply Granger2. The answer to first question seem obivious now. I think I am worrying too much that I do something wrong. Good to hear that horse poo compost will work. I will leave potasium sulfate out and read those threads during the 1 month soil needs to compost.
 

Lapides

Rosin Junky and Certified Worm Wrangler
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My plants love having worms wiggling around at their roots.

And beds, oh how the plants love their beds.
 
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