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Little-known illness tied to smoking weed on the rise
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Yeah, cause the media never ran a story for the purpose of influencing public opinion
i cant understand a word of what you just said. maybe try it without the sarcasm or humor or whatever you're going for.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
It's Azadirachtin poisoning
Azamax, Azatrol, Aza-Sol and a number of other "Organic" organicides include it. Each ounce of neem oil contains between 200 and 2000ppm of azadirachtin. These products use an extract of it. I'm not sure if heavy neem oil use also triggers this reaction, to date I'm only sure of azadirachtin based products.
It's an allergic reaction, benadryl helps relieve symptoms. Activated charcoal helps pull it out of the body faster. Your body does not break down aza very quickly, lightly contaminated cannabis causes issues with continued use. One bowl of heavily contaminated cannabis will trigger a response in minutes, with those who have a stronger allergy.
Nausea every morning
Cyclic vomiting
Pain around the kidneys and lower spine
Slow/Gassy digestion
Muscle tension
Flu like feeling (heavy overdose)
Hypothermia
Symptoms relieved by hot baths/showers, benadryl, clean cannabis.
Azamax, Azatrol, Aza-Sol and a number of other "Organic" organicides include it. Each ounce of neem oil contains between 200 and 2000ppm of azadirachtin. These products use an extract of it. I'm not sure if heavy neem oil use also triggers this reaction, to date I'm only sure of azadirachtin based products.
It's an allergic reaction, benadryl helps relieve symptoms. Activated charcoal helps pull it out of the body faster. Your body does not break down aza very quickly, lightly contaminated cannabis causes issues with continued use. One bowl of heavily contaminated cannabis will trigger a response in minutes, with those who have a stronger allergy.
Nausea every morning
Cyclic vomiting
Pain around the kidneys and lower spine
Slow/Gassy digestion
Muscle tension
Flu like feeling (heavy overdose)
Hypothermia
Symptoms relieved by hot baths/showers, benadryl, clean cannabis.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Continued exposure will lead to dangerous digestive issues. Enemas and careful laxative use (mirilax) help with slow/stopped digestion. Bland diet, free from heavily processed and fake food ingredients helps immensely.
End up in the ER? Tell them you quit using cannabis and are having a serious digestive crisis. When they know about CHS and you using cannabis they will simply send you home with some anti-nausea pills and a couple pain killers.
End up in the ER? Tell them you quit using cannabis and are having a serious digestive crisis. When they know about CHS and you using cannabis they will simply send you home with some anti-nausea pills and a couple pain killers.
I can't take these threads seriously. The replies are always the same, usually from the same people.
Oh boy. I love the logic of some of you.
"Haters gunna hate".
The problem isn't cannabis, cannabis is the solution. I imagine alcoholics use similar circular thinking.
The common logic in the cannabis community that a differing opinion is "hating".
TEEEEEEERUMPIMANIA
Kneejerk reactions produce poor result. Like your future president. Automatically designating CHS as Reefer Madness maligns the many (as noted in the case study, a review of many subjects) who clearly experience it. Sloughing it off as "lightweights greening out" is ego/machismo. I know more than a few lifelong heavy smokers/growers who describe the symptoms to a T, without prompting or previous knowledge of CHS.
Don't worry, they won't take our Precious away or hurts it.
The "everything green is gold" mantra. A large percentage believe all things relating to cannabis are inately good. Any suggestion other wise produces the replies seen above.
A little objectivity goes a far way, they call them rose coloured glasses for a reason. If you refuse to see anything but what you want to see, you limit your view of the world and pidgeonhole yourself with bias.
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Maybe this syndrome is due to the downregulation of cannabinoid receptors that happens when you smoke any amount but taken to the extreme. Downregulation would cause the opposite effects of cannabis leading to nausea similar to how the cb1 blocking drug romanibant was once used for weight loss. Some of us have less of these receptors to begin with. Schizophrenics have more than normal. They are also more prone to use bud and I would bet that they are more resistant to this syndrome than your average smoker.
Stond_Face
Member
Used to regularly listen to a podcast by a Londoner called Dopefiend. I listened for a few years. This was several years ago.
One of his regulars on the show started having abdominal pain and vomiting episodes. His only relief was taking a hot bath. Got so bad it changed his life. I remember this went on for months.
During one emergency room visit, he was diagnosed with Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome. He said it was explained that his heavy weed use very slightly upset his body's ability to regulate internal temperature. That caused the abdominal issues. And, that's why the hot bath sorted the problem.
Anyway, he cut way back on weed and back to a normal life.
One of his regulars on the show started having abdominal pain and vomiting episodes. His only relief was taking a hot bath. Got so bad it changed his life. I remember this went on for months.
During one emergency room visit, he was diagnosed with Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome. He said it was explained that his heavy weed use very slightly upset his body's ability to regulate internal temperature. That caused the abdominal issues. And, that's why the hot bath sorted the problem.
Anyway, he cut way back on weed and back to a normal life.
ITS THE STUFF THEY PUT IT IN THE WATER I TELL YA!!!
or Aliens...
From what i've read this is the Scientific way of saying "Greening out"
http://hightimes.com/medicinal/what-is-cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome/
So basically what i take from this all is that light weights need to smoke a lil less of the good stuff which is now easily available. I mean i think? I'm not from Colorado so dont know what they are smoking.
or Aliens...
From what i've read this is the Scientific way of saying "Greening out"
http://hightimes.com/medicinal/what-is-cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome/
So basically what i take from this all is that light weights need to smoke a lil less of the good stuff which is now easily available. I mean i think? I'm not from Colorado so dont know what they are smoking.
Some other mid eastern cultures look down on smoking flowers. Fine for them, there's plenty of hash there.
Jonny Lan
I always associated 'greening out' with newbies. Or somebody who ate some really strong edibles.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
It's Azadirachtin poisoning, plain and simple.
You can smoke all the clean cannabis you want, no issue. The minute you start using aza contaminated cannabis the symptoms start creeping in. Heavier the contamination, faster and harder the onset of CHS symptoms.
You can smoke all the clean cannabis you want, no issue. The minute you start using aza contaminated cannabis the symptoms start creeping in. Heavier the contamination, faster and harder the onset of CHS symptoms.
I used Azamax last run during veg as a soil drench. its how i always applied it. No one ever has this problem with my herb. and trust me fam, my dudes are Buddha abusers!
Do you think its when people spray it on the flowers indoor?
I feel you, i was half way joking.
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acridlab
too many gardeners in this industry use all that shit, all over they're budding plants, and preach how its organic and safe..
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
What a can't f'ing stand?
I ask growers if they've used any pesticides and they reply "Oh, gee, no way, I'm ""All Organic."" Then I probe deeper and find out they use an Azadirachtin product. WTF do you think Azadirachtin is? Organic oatmeal cookies?
It's a PESTICIDE. A compound used to kill off pests. Who gives a crap if it's organic?
I ask growers if they've used any pesticides and they reply "Oh, gee, no way, I'm ""All Organic."" Then I probe deeper and find out they use an Azadirachtin product. WTF do you think Azadirachtin is? Organic oatmeal cookies?
It's a PESTICIDE. A compound used to kill off pests. Who gives a crap if it's organic?
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Nice your group hasn't any issues.
No mild nausea every morning? Mild back pain near the kidneys? Nobody with previous injuries having slightly more pain, more often? It's very subtle for most folks, wicked nasty for the more sensitive.
I've personally used it indoor and have had greenhouse grown cause the same issues. Not sure about full sun grown. I know it's definitely still in the soil after 70+ days of indoor. It's also definitely still in the plant at 70+ days.
no not at all. I mean maybe I didn't use enough? just a light soil drench to kill fungus gnat infestation in veg. glad i didn't need it this current round if this stuff u guys are saying is real.
troutman
Seed Whore
Azadirachtin is an organic compound derived from neem.
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Azadirachtin is bullshit
