Lazy Growing

[slang]

are we there yet?

are we there yet?

Thanks Bro.....my "soil mix" is ProMix straight outta the bag.

My first grow I used ProMix "germination" which was not porous/loose enough so I added some perlite or vermiculite (can't remember). I probably screwed that grow up by moving my grow room mid-grow and then putting my 400W too close to the plants. Plants and bud at times looked just like the better pics here although never gave me any potent bud. Seeds were Apollo 11 from SD.

My second grow I used ProMix regular and seeds from Asiatica which were his F1 Sativas from Serious and others. They grew pretty but I probably ruined them by cutting them too early. The trichs got cloudy around the 8 week mark so I cut them. Maybe they got cloudy cuz it was too hot.

Both times I used houseplant nutes rec'd by Uncle Ben of Overgrow. Jack's Classic and then Blossom Booster. Nothing else.

My temps can be in the high 90's at times which I know can be a problem, although they probably average out at 83-ish.

Another thing is I can't seem to store seeds here. They all grow like crazy after I get them but don't keep. The first time I kept them in an envelope in a file and thought maybe they got squished. The second time I kept them in a loose envelope in a cracker tin. Both times within the original sealed plastic bags. I'm ashamed but I lost 3 flavors of Bog, Apollo's and now Asiaticas - he'll chew me out.

So now I have 1 healthy non-sexed Indica plant going (seeds are hard for me to get these days) which I have cut up a bit for clones. I'm ignoring that it could be a male or worse a hermi (how did that bitch get in that bag of creepy?). Worse come to worse I get some practice and learn how to clone I guess. My clones from yesterday are bigger (topped plant clone), under the proper light and pointing in the right way so I am encouraged. The first set were probably too small, under the wrong lighting and too wet.

So I know a lot of this seems stupid in hindsight but I was so lazy that I didn't do it right. Now I hope I'm just lazy enough...and lucky.

Thanks again man.

Peas - Slang

 

[truecannabliss]

Hey bro just read through and as usual it seems like another fine thread in the making, what are the full list of strains you plan on running this time round?
Peace

 

[Guest]

Hey GMT I have a stupid question for you. Before I started to flower some of my plants they had nice 5 bladed leaves now they are throwing off 3 bladed leaves what could have caused that? or is it normal? I've never seen that happen before.

See what I'm talking about?

Thanks
GCG

 

[GMT]

Hi slang, well at least you seem to know what you did wrong, which is more than half the battle. Just remember, the first sign of wilting and increase the distance of the light source.

Hey True, glad you found the thread, Well, this season I'll be mostly growing: My 1. Smokey Girl, which is bruisedberry back crossed to orange bud and then crossed to reefs nutcruncher, 2. Bruised Nuts, similar but not an orange bud backcross. The straight 3. Bruised Berry, (as thats my main tri line), and maybe an OBO Domina, the bruised berry orange backcross, backcrossed to a blackdomina cross. All very similar gene lines, but with enough difference to be easily distinguishable. I'll mark everything up as I post it.

Hey Garlic, not sure what causes it. I could guess but that's all it'd be and that guess would be genes. I have girls that put out 11 fingers at mid point and at the top of the buds, there's only 3 fingered leaf sites. I think thats quite normal, but I don't know. I'd guess its to let more light down to existing leaves so to reduce the food it takes to grow new ones. But as I said, who knows what goes on in the mind of a plant.

 

[hybridtek]

awesome thread GMT, I never tried topping a seedling that young. I may experiement next time.

 

[GMT]

Here you can see the development of the new bud sites on the clone taken. A tidy topping exercise becomes much more difficult with clones than seedlings though. I'll leave a few branches at the bottom to grow naturally, as they will become the new clones a little later. Only the top branches will form the body of the plant. And they will soon need to be topped themselves, just waiting for a couple of days. I'll show pics when they are ready.

 

[GMT]

Now the branches have grown a little, the central growth tips can be removed on each branch, leaving only 2 growth sites on each of the upper branches.

Before


After


You can see that only the 2 bud sites on either side of the central stems of each branch are left to form the new growth tips. These will each grow as new branches, which in turn can be treated in the same way again. The lowest 2 branches will be taken later as new clones, and so for that reason will be left alone to grow naturally.

 

[GMT]

I just got a pm from someone asking what they should do with a trifoliar plant they have. All I can say is let it grow. If possible breed with it. Forget what others say about them being weaker or whatever. You can see how healthy yours is. If its a nice plant breed with it, if it isn't, dont.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Man, nice photo show on the second round of topping - most excellent, makes it perfectly clear....

 

[personalmeds]

Very interesting, GMT. I really like your method, and may have to adopt it. I've never grown indoors, and as you'll see if you check out my thread, my first outdoor crop was definitely 'lazy growing' Very little maintenance, pretty much just water and some topping to bush her up. Also had to have her upper stems crushed to keep her height down, but that's just helped bush her up even more. Anyhow, I wasn't aware you could do it indoor easily! You've opened my eyes, I'll be sticking around mate. Very informative!

 

[Guest]

im seriously sorry if u or anyone took my interested questions as a threat to ur way of growing. im not a english talking person - and i presume sometimes what i want to say doesnt get thru.

i only wanted to know a bit more, since i like learning about other styles and techniques etc etc for me an ex-gardner this is something that really interests me - growing of plants. and yeah i agree that the more advanced techinques might be over the level of the ppl u want to educate. sorry for complicating it all for u guys - my misstake to think it was ok to ask questions.

now after the PM you sent i DO understand ur reaction. its cool mate, but im not ur enemy.

every-one is free to interpret what they read as they want, but i will try to be more atent with my writing. anyway - i deleted the posts

im not ofended nor do i get anoyed easilly.

now i leave u guys in peace. sorry again

bone

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bonecarver_OG again.

Very classy...there are others that could do well to learn from a post like this.

Cheers,
SH

 

[DurbanPoison]

Just thought I would say hello. No internet at home for a bit right now. Looking good as always GMT. Keep it up.

 

[GMT]

Hi DP, this threads gonna slow down now, just gonna keep track of one of those cuts I took, and thats it I think. You shouldn't miss too much while you are away.

 

[Guest]

Hi GMT it's your Lazy friend. You do some radical topping. So it's OK to top your plants that close together? I have always read that you top every 3-4 nodes. Your way of topping will make a shorter bushier plant though.

Great info I will put it to work soon.

Thanks
GCG

 

[GMT]

Hi Garlic, Well it's never caused me any problems, although as MGJ pointed out, probably best to leave it one node longer than I did just incase there is a problem with one node at the start. Although once you have started, if you mess up one of them, you still end up with plenty of tops from the others. Although you'd be unlucky to mess up topping a plant. The best thing about it is the number of tops you get for your hight of plant, and the popcorn is reduced to a minimum. I look forward to seeing it done in your thread mate.

 

[GMT]

Well, I have read a number of times recently, that clones must be taken while in veg. So I thought I'd take one a little later, just for fun. So, to bust this myth, how late would be late enough?



I recon that should be late enough. Well here goes.



Lets watch what happens. Lets see if this is impossible. Will she take? Will she become nice enough to take other cuts from down the line? It'll probably take until xmas, and they are right when they say that you are best to take clones in veg, but that's not always practical, so just to show what happens when you take tham heavily in flower, watch this space.

 

[personalmeds]

Great idea, GMT! I'll be watching to see what happens, interesting as always my friend.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Hiya GMT
Nice experiment! My amnesia99s were germed, veged and flowered under 12/12. Don't remember how many weeks it was before I took cuts, but they were definitely alternating nodes and pumping out female flowers. I was able to root them and flower them out without problem, my 2nd am99 grow was from those cuts, and my current mothers also.

I think there must be some strain variability in how well the cuts take this way, will be interesting to see your girls root out...

Always interesting developments in the Lazy Growing thread!

 

[Guest]

Is GMT on the cutting edge of debunking all the myths and out right BS put out about growing MJ? I think so!!!!

I took a few cuts of my urkle after they had started flowering for a week or 2. They didn't take any longer to root than normal, but the veg growth was delayed because of the cut having to revert back from flowering to veg stage. Did that make any sense at all?

GMT what you are doing is very possible and I think it will work just fine. Everyone that does this though needs to remember that it will take some time for their clone to reveg and really start growing again.

I think what everyone on these forums forgets is that MJ is just a weed that has grown in the wild for 1000's of years. IMO a lab type environment is not needed to grow superior weed. Often times we get so caught up in analyzing our grows that we forget the basics.

Nice job GMT
GCG

 

[DurbanPoison]

Hey GMT. Long time no see. Im anxious to see how your project goes with the flowering cut. I think maybe i'll try it too. It would be nice because I have a slim idea of what she is looking like now at five weeks tomorrow and of the 2 more beans I had of this particular strain I may not end up with a female or the same genes. Either way I know I have a female of 2 different strains so maybe I'll try it with both. Nice to see everyone again.