Lazy Growing

[damakkus]

Hey GMT,
I came thru yesterday a little stoned. LOL Didnt know what I was talking about or did I LOL.

Can you show me what a tri baby is? I read earlier but kinda got confused. Is it a seed that sprouts and has 3 branches instead of the normal 2? Or is it something where someone tops early on?

Also, I tried to do a little lazy growing but I think it is more work cause I have to hand water. But the results are looking good. I just started off with soil that has nutes in it already just to see what happens. And so far so good. Some strains are showing deficiency but hey Im tired LOL.

 

[GMT]

Hi Damak, yep a true tri is born with 3 cotty's from the start, and continues to put out 3 of everything at the nodes rather than the standard 2. They look like this.

Right now I have more than I'm comfy with.

 

[GMT]

oh yeah sorry, try watering the ones that show deficiencies a little more than you would normally. It unlocks the nutes stored in the soil and gives them a heavier feed.

 

[damakkus]

GMT the first thing I said when I saw those tri pics is holy sh*te man. How do you do that?

I kinda thought you were kinda one of those guys into science and stuff by your last avy. I dont know if thats true but either way thats some cool stuff your into.

If I saw that in my garden I would think that was a problem child. But does it produce more bud?

Do you have a pic of what a budded tri lady looks like?

Oh and I watered my ladies today. I am getting really lazy now I am doing more work LOL

 

[kooki]

My name's kooki, and I'm addicted to growing bud........



hya GMT , sounds like u a busy lazy grower at the moment, im sure your method of selection is based on good knowledge of those plants , so i cant wait to see the ones that make the 2nd round interview process lol.. Its gonna be a good show in triplevision

 

[GMT]

Hi Damak, One side point, no one creates plants, we just find and nurture them. I dont want to start claiming to have made these, I just made their occurance a little higher. And when they are the majority rather than the minority, I'll consider myself done. Hmmm, science, certainly more valid than opinion, yet still not knowledge. I like the principles of scientific method, yet not the flaws of inductive reasoning. Though in order to create a false world to live in, which is necessary to have any shareable comprehension of ourselves or where we are, we must make leaps of intellectual faith. If observation then has a positive corelation to prediction, this best guess of mankind, gets called science until the next monkey in line makes a better leap of faith with more accurate corelations being noted. Not too sure where I stand on science yet. It has its place I suppose, so long as no one mistakes it for understanding. A photo of a tri female in bud, yes, somewhere, but there are so many pages in my gallery I really wouldnt know where to look. The last pic of a big plant is a tri in flower, although topped. I'm guessing you want to see one single cola in flower. Which is something I rarely do as anything over 4 foot tall becomes a problem in my cab having to allow another foot for roots and one for light heat. Tris for me arent really for bud anyway, they are for breeding. So single cola unseeded tris arent something you'll see from me often. at least not yet. More bud, I've got to say yes, but not 50% more. They also want more leg room for the roots, not necesarily deeper but wider. so really I think per litre of soil used and space taken, they are probably the same. Although saying that, I hear of some folks choosing to grow stuff that yields less than an ounce a plant, by choice, so it depends on what you are comparing them with really. Never seen em grown in coco or hydro, as I'm the only one with these. Glad you watered, and that you're trying the lazy mantra out for yourself. Yields may drop 10-20% but the smoke diff is well worth it and so is the ease of grow.

 

[GMT]

LMAO, welcome to IC Anonymous Kooki. Well selection is heading towards the greatest phenotype difference I can find while still being trifoliar at this stage in this line. In the other line I am going for the most similar looking at each stage, being the widest leaves etc. I want to see the diff in terms of health, stability etc in the 2 lines. If both lines work out well, then a hybrid F1 generation will have to be done at some point.
Sorry I missed you in the last post, but you got it done while I was still typing

 

[TML16]

That's an amzing Tri GMT

Very interesting stuff GMT
So many good points in your posts...wish I could give you rep on every single one

When growing out a tri for budding...do you still top it?

I feel satisfied with knowing I learned something new about our beloved weed every time I visit this thread :smile:

 

[GMT]

Hi TML,
Thing is mate, I prefer fewer larger plants, so in selection thats the way I leaned in the past. Now the plants themselves insist on growing big. The famous 12/12 stretch is somewhat exagerated in the tris. I can only assume that in order to get the light it wants to its leaves it has to grow taller so there is more space in between them. If I was growing outside I'd let them go, or if I had more head room and a stronger light I'd let them get taller. But the only way I can do it in my set up is by taking their heads. They dont mind at all, but in terms of getting the tops of trifoliar single colas, its just not something that I'm set up for. I'm so used to multitopping now to keep hight a little lower and yields a liittle higher that even when I get a tri girl, I tend to take her head, even if its only to clone.
Hmmm, everyone is being so nice, starting to get parra lol.

 

[damakkus]

GMT that is too cool. A little bit of the verbage was above me about the science thing. I hope I did not offend you, I just think your a smart guy I dunno Its all good.

But this tri thing is too cool dude if you dont create it how do you get the tri. It just happens? Strain specific maybe? I dunno

Topping them to me is a big plus, the branching must be amazing with bud sites everywhere.

I am finding I like larger plants myself than smaller ones. I am not sure if there is a benefit for me big or small as it seems the reward will amount to the same for myself. It is much easier taking care of less plants though. I am rambling on.... I got lit and uhhh? I dunno

kooki, me and you have the same addiction, well I consider my problem an illness.

I have found my purpose in life my friends.

 

[kooki]

@ dammakkus , hehe, i consider it therapy , i find it a great relaxing pastime that i can learn things from, enjoy visually something ( i find plants very aesthetically pleasing, a thing of beauty) and also end up with a smoke u can say... i grew this hehe, yeah its a passion an addiction an illness a purpose.... a way of life?

@ GMT well my search for a male pollen donor has started, popped some K2 beans that i will look for the male from, to put to the t44 cut and then go from there to growin offspring and then doing that selecting process (think im gonna be lookng for very few things i want such as the tri thing poppin up again if possible and also i like the short stature of the t44 and the great branching of the K2..)
And on science well.. einstein said it ..."Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind"
make of that what u will to me i think it does indicate that at times u just gotta have faith your observations are correct or at least part right , but to totally put your faith into something without some reasoned thought would be "lame" as in always lacking something.. enough rambling
take it easy

 

[GMT]

hehe, sorry Damak, I was stoned when writing that response, (and still am for that matter) rambled on a little on a pet topic, certainly no offense caused, I'm flattered. There are very few instances of dna sequences being created, and thats certainly above me. These tris are deffo not in that category. They occur naturally in all lines at a ratio of around 1:10,000. Some lines a little more frequently. I just used the principles of evolution, only controlled evolution rather than natural selection, GMT selection. Any occuring, are used to breed. The more generations of tri's in the parent lines, the greater the frequency in the offspring. I dont believe in principles like cubing, but evolution is pretty well established now. Depending on your religous upbringing of course.

Hi Kooki, always ready with an apropriate quote, I love it. Although I'm not all that impressed with Einstein. I think of him as more of a Sophist than a Scientist. He had views that he wanted to fit his science inside, and that's not a good approach. It prevented him from seeing the conclusions of his own work. Although for me to criticize him is laughable. Its sad that the difference between genius and foolishness is the readiness of others to accept your ideas. Einstein said god does not play dice, Hawking says he does. I guess science moves on lol. Point is any truth that changes, is not truth but fashion. Truthfully, we know very little, but we have recorded observing a lot. All scientists can do, is have a little faith that what they observed happening previously under certain circumstances, would, under the same circumstances, happen again. It is that faith that all science is based upon. For me that does not require a god, though neither does it rule one or more out. Why am I rambling about this?
Yeah pollen for your tt44. remember, prob wont get any tris from your F1s, but a backcross to the tt44 or a f2 generation will be your best bet.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Hiya GMT
Been a bit more than usual, but wanted to take a moment to hand you props on the good knowledge you're spreading here.

Complete non sequitur here - were you ever a Star Trek fan? There was a funny episode, The Gamesters of Tri-skelion. Just like your garden, lots of beautiful girls to ogle!

Ahh - don't hold anything against poor ole Albert E - blame his relatives (ducking)

 

[damakkus]

Hey GMT so is that all you like to grow are the tris? Or do you like trying to breed tris out of other strains? Just curious as I have no clue of breeding all I know is you need the male pollen, you know the basics. Not that I want you to try to explain breeding to me, no I am just curious what type of stuff you grow.

I had purchased some Hawaiian Snow feminized beans and I had weird stuff kinda like your tri but I do not remember exectly. I wish I had my cam back then. But I just killed those plants because I was told they would probably hermie. Does that happen to your tris?

You may have went over all this already, if you have its all good. I suck at reading and dont understand all the verbage. I am like I think most ICers, I am baked the whole time Im here LOL and most of the time stuff gets lost in translation type thing if that makes sense.

Hiya Mr.Greenjeans, I agree with you. Good knowledge. I tell you too and I dont know if GMT agrees but lazy growing seems way easier outside. I am talking just add water and forget it. They seem to use nutes way more efficiently outdoors as well. I am talking the nutes in the soil I bought. That is still lazy growing right or wrong if not its the laziest work I have ever done to see such amazing looking specimens. Nature at work it is beautiful.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Hiya damakkus
Man, I wish I could grow outdoors. You're right - makes a lot of things much easier. You and JoeShmoe have enviable outside grows...

Now back to our sponser - GMT, Master of Tri-skelion.

 

[GMT]

MGJ, no worries me ol'mucker, I know you have things going on for you right now. Hope the hands are easing up for you and your buddy is doing well. It's supprising how much info you pick up on growing stuff when you spend all day everyday for a few years on growing sites, oh actually maybe I should have picked up a bit more looking at that sentence. Most of it is nonsense anyway. On the other hand there are some really cool peeps doing some really cool stuff if you look for it. I know I picked up some good stuff from you along the way. By the way, cool Al pun above, took me a moment or two to work it out, which I loved! BIG star trek fan too, though not quite so annorachy to know the names of episodes lol. I mean if you had given me a series to go on it would have helped. I remember a planet with green girls in the first series, and one where they are all "up for it" in the next gen, kinda lost interest after that series though. And once they put a woman in charge it just got silly. Then they go and fuck up Klingon chronology in the last which is supposed to be the first and fuck em, they're just cashing in. But I still stay up to watch re-runs of the first series and catch next gen when its aired. rambling now, I'll stop.
Hi Damak, oh no. It's just I only have room to do one thing at a time. And right now, I'm doing the tri thing. I really didnt know it would take this long to do. If I had, I wouldn't have bothered to be honest. But I've put so much time into it now, that I can't just abandon it. Got to finish it first. Then I can move onto something else. Theres talk afoot of an Airbourne G13 pure seed line being started, have to wait and see what happens there. I've also heard so much about these kushes, I'd like to try them. Then there was talk of Gypsy releasing some land races for preservation, I'd like to get involved with that at some point in some way. Still plenty of projects to work on, the tri thing is just the current one. I have 2 lines of Tri which are being selected in different ways for breeding. I want to compare the outcomes, and it allows the 2 to later be crossed for genetic diversity which may or may not be necessary at some point. Oh and hermies, no that never happens to my girls, I shouldn't test fate like that, but it just doesn't happen. If it ever did, I'd go back a generation and reselect parents. I have had it happen with 2 strains from others, but with one strain I didnt grow any more and with the other I picked a different plant for seeds. Dont worry about being baked reading replies, they are typed that way and should be read that way. It sounds like you growing in the laziest way possible. You arent even flicking a switch lol. Congrats on conquering the biggest battle to growing well, restraining the urge to "help" it grow quicker, bigger, better.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

Heya me ol'mucker
Things in an ok holding pattern on both fronts. It sure is amazing the amount of info to be found here.

Glad you like the Albert E pun. Re. Star Trek: Yes, I was writing about the original series. The Gamesters of Triskellion was a gladiatorial setting - with a blonde lady with very very little on, James Kirk bare chested, and 3 disembodied brains betting on the gladitorial games. It was the first episode where the infamous TriOx compound was used. No relation intended except the similarities of episode name. Been a few years since I've seen reruns of the original series - about due for another run...

 

[GMT]

hehe, I dont remember that one, the only time I remember the TriOx compound being used was when Kirk was fighting Spock on Vulcan, when Spock was sopposed to get married to his 2 timing fiancee. But Bones had switched it for something to simulate death to get Kirk back to the ship. Ah star trek.

 

[Mr GreenJeans]

I remember that one - the first time the viewers were exposed to Pon Far - Time of the Vulcan HornDog

 

[GivaDogaBone]

Horny Vulcans, and my cuz, horndog, got the 420 message. Damm!!!