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Lazy Growing

Alex-F

Traktor driver
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GMT said:
yeah but what i really wanted was crystal clear pics showing detail in group shots, but with pics auto resizing to 600x800 that isnt going to happen. So anoying.
We need a propper photo forum, where theres no chit chat and just pure photos, with a decent mod who'll just go through deleting those not up to scratch. I'd need practice, but chaps like Abbey and a few others could really make use of that.
Now I'm just taking a shot and cropping it down to 800x600 to reduce upload speed, and sending higher res pics seems to resize them into a way the pixels look crupmled. Ah well.

I'll second that. Got this spanky cool cam, and no idea how to use it. :bat: :pointlaug
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
hey Alex, I can get really good colour reproduction without the HPS, but with the HPS I have a setting for general shots that takes the orange out, really amazing how well it works, but tends to leave the greens a little lime looking. Close shots requireing the macro though, it seems I cant use that setting, so need to set the white balance by hand. Its really heavy on battery use too, meaning that I new need a backup battery, oh yeah and a first Batterry as they supplied non rechargeable with it.
I was just having a winge above, a bad workman and all that.
 
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Alex-F

Traktor driver
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Hmm I'll have to have a look whether our cam does that too. :chin:

That last pic looks almost like my Arjan's Haze x Cinamon :yoinks: Something unlikely to be in your garden with your indica prefferences. :chin:
 

Mr GreenJeans

Sat Cat
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Hiya GMT :wave:
I'm with Alex - those shots are tasty man!

You're finding out the real truth of digital photos - fineness of detail is not solely dependent on how many pixels in the final picture. Very large chips not only give more options for editing without loosing much detail (cropping), but also by capturing more detail initially the pics look sharper even when resized. I don't understand the math ins and outs of data compression, but it seems like the guesstimating the compression algorithms perform are more accurate when you start out with higher res info.

You have a good one, this Olympus takes killer macro shots!
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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Hi Alex, I seem to remember yours has a pretty nice macro ability too, when looking at my options. lol, no, no hazes at all in my garden, that's my smokey girl at halfway flowering.
Hi MGJ,
Yeah there's more to all this than first meets the eye. I seem to get better shots taking them at a lower resolution to begin with, guess it gives it a few pixels to choose between from the start. And the stated macro length isn't anywhere close to where I can get it in focus, slightly oversold its capabilities there. Although there are nice macro lens attachments available.
 

Delta9-THC

from the mists and the shadows .... there you wil
Veteran
just popped in to say I have a (cheese x trainwreck) tifoliate male and I'll be looking to cross it soon ...of course I thought of ya straight away ... : )

take it easy

you lazy b"stard lol

Peace
 

TML16

Snow Grower ~OGA~
Veteran
I'm wondering if your love for strong indicas has something to do with the level of your laziness :chin: :smile:

Gotta have the good Ni-MH rechargables for todays digital world :yoinks: the Energizer bunny don't last long in todays devices.

I'm not gonna get into talkin bout algorithms and what not...but them are some damn nice macro pics :yes: great colour balance.

Keep'em comin GMT
 
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Core

Quality Control Controller
ICMag Donor
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GMT said:
Ah, you have far more money than I do, I looked at the cannon coolpix a630 as a great alternative, and I've seen some cannon macros that put everything else to shame. So a decent macro lens on the xt should have you (and us) grinning. As far as I could make out, the big advantage of true slrs is the shot speed. Once you press the shutter release on a point and shoot type, it seems to wait a while and then takes the shot. Fine for plants that arent on the move, not so great for that "dog catching frisby" shot. Anyway I went with the olympus sp310. I'm still getting to grips with it all, and I've just found a whole new section in the software provided for editing the pics, which is very cool. it has an aperature range of 2.8 to 8, which tended to be pretty good comparatively. And a shutter speed from 1/2000th to 8mins for celestial shots, and timelapse too, so I'm pretty happy with its features, but also has the threaded mount for additional lenses, which is great for the future when I can get true macro lenses and a telephoto lenses stuck on the front. Movie shooting too, for the price, which is cheap cam price, (I've paid double for standard point and shoot film cameras before) I'm very happy with it.
So a quick run over lazy growing just to clarify what I'm displaying, ok no worries.
I'll try for 10 points lol,

1. No Nutes (other than whats in the soil).
2. No fancy soils. (Anything good for veggies is a favourite but general purpose is fine).
3. Water with tap water, it has minerals etc in it anyway and tends to be the right ph for me. If yours isnt, ph adjust it. Once its measured, dont waorry about it changing, the water company takes care of that.
4. For clones and revegging, 24 hours of weak flouro light, I use 2 15w bulbs.
5. For the others, they get sleep.
6. Times on the the ones that get sleep aren't constant. They go on when I get up, which varies by around 5 hours day to day. They go off roughly 12 hours later or when its convinient, a couple of hours each way evens itself out over time.
7. Light leeks occur constantly, this way it isnt a shock to em lol. They only see light of the right wave length, if they didnt we wouldnt need specialist lights to grow em, so dont worry about it.
8. They get flowered when they look like they want to be, and harvested before bud rot sets in (normally), or when I run out of reserves.
9. Lst ing is a lot of work, topping isn't.
10. I want wide plants, so I plant in wide rather than deep tubs.

I want to watch plants grow and then smoke em. I dont want to pump them up, fill em with shit and smoke em. I want to taste the plant. It's like the olympics, steriods are just cheating. And they're bad for you. Lazy growing is easier, less stressfull, tastes better, and has less additives and e numbers. Also what you watch is nature, not manufactured. So that's Lazy Growing in a nutshell.


verry good description about lazy growing. :yoinks: .....but hell you just make it sound so easy :chin:.....i'm not even gonne try :pointlaug ....atleast not in the near future......i have already probs feeding them ones...Lol let alone cramp these fertz into 1 pot for the intire lifespan....

just awsome bro :joint: .....again you rise in my essteam ....or some thing like that ...srry for typo's
 
G

Guest

GMT its a bio root stimulator ... called ROOTS from plagron .. plagron only doing bio thing
anyway i add it in extra only for the first watering but u can dont use it at all ... just check royaltymix soil from plagron and water them www.plagron.nl
 

damakkus

West Coast ICer
GMT when is the battery coming? I am tired of reading and want more pics. Need a little porn, I know I know I am a sick fucker but I love porn. I think because I am more of a visual person. Who knows, who cares I just like it.
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
Hey Delta 9, post him up, lets admire. What ya gonna cross him to?

hehehehe, TML, yeah I often wonder the same thing. Cause and effect or a good match? And if casue and effect, which is the cuase and which the effect?
Yeah I have batteries on their way, and may pop to the shops later to see if I can buy something to make do till they get here. a Plug and a long lead is all I really need, ah well. One thing is for sure on those macro pics, they are the first of many, and they'll only get better once I learn how to use the cam properly. And wait till I can get a propper macro lens on it. Although that'll be a long wait.

Hey core, the problem with feeding them, is if you get one element off, then everything is off, can't get more balanced than adding nothing at all.

Bhang, great, it's good to see that these campanies are trying to make it easier for folks. Fortunately over here, you can get soils from garden centres or diy centres rather than needing specialist hydro stores to buy soil from. So for anyone that has access to garden centres, anything good for veggies at a fraction of the cost of that sort of thing is great to work with, but if all you have is hydro stores, then yeah, I'd agree that that would be a far better option than rock wool and bottles, or other soil types and bottles. Anything that avoids needing to play with bottles really.

Hey Core, nah that's not my secret. My secret is ...... oops, nearly let it slip then lol. :listen2: The less you do, the less you can fuck up. But don't tell everyone.

Damak, yeah you and me both, I can always tell whats going on from the pics rather than the words, Sorry, it could be as late as the weekend, like I said I'll try to make it to the shops later or tomorrow, see if I can pick up a stop gap.
 

Delta9-THC

from the mists and the shadows .... there you wil
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Hey GMT.... I am also having camera probs

not batteries just getting one here

but Im thinking of crossing it back to the original cheese ... try to get a chees tri

not quite quattro fromagio but close : )

Im doing some lazy growing as it goes ... aswell as my not-so lazy : )

if I do eventually manage the cross you can expect another tri to play with btw did you ever stabilise the tri trait ?

I feel that selection will be important but any other tips? backcross maybe?
I really would like some more info

take care

Peace
 
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Guest

Hi all :wave:

great thread! GMT I love the way you grow. Treat a plant like a plant and let nature do its thing. So simple, yet so effective. I started growing with no knowledge of cannabis growing, no books and before internet was available to us. Used to just stick sprouted seeds in the ground and let them get on with it. Always came out great! Have been playing around with some of the current techniques and as yet don't see any gains, only lots more problems and expense. Thanks for showing everyone how you grow.

Now do you have a lazy method for pest control?

Peace!
 

Mr GreenJeans

Sat Cat
Veteran
nomadic said:
Now do you have a lazy method for pest control? Peace!

GMT - mind if I field this question? :pointlaug :chin:

It's easy peasy nomadic. Open mouth wide and walk around the room once or twice (ouch)

GMT, you can always get some scrap zinc and copper strips, stick them into surplus castoff lemons from the vegetable vendors, runs some wires and you're in business...

Uh oh - I can see that I've been sucking on too much of this CindyGee :yoinks:
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
Hi Delta,
tips on stabalising the tri trait, nope sorry, all I can say is read the threads, what I know has gone into them. I've tended to run several lines simultaneously, and then fold them into each other. Like 2 colonies of animals that swap a male here and there just to keep the genetic mix up.

Thanks Nomadic, yep the MGJ method will get most of the fungus gnats for ya, lol MGJ. Outdoor pest are down to luck, indoor, you could keep the windows shut Other than that, keep soil dry to avoid fungus gnats, MGJ has some other tips on that front that include (here we go MGJ) Diatomaceous earth (?). Keep the soil moist to put spider mites off. Good airflow to avoid spider mites. Everything seems to dislike the smell of eucalyptus oil, (thank Somoz for that one), just on a tissue in the grow room not on the plants. Cold temps and alcohol solutions tend to put spider mites off a bit too. An electric bug zapper can do wonders to colonies of fungus gnats at lights out, but get a small one, the bigger ones they just fly through the wires on.

hehe MGJ, yeah cindygee is getting to ya. Bio power wont power this thing, I'm just gonna have to wait. The shops didnt sell what I needed, so its just words for a while longerl.
 

damakkus

West Coast ICer
Hey GMT :wave:

Well I am going to have to practice a little lazy growing myself. Decided I was going to stop changing my res so much. Not that thats lazy growing, but If I would have said I wasnt going to change it at all. Some one is going to come along and say "But the plants shit in the water" WTF? I didnt even know plants took a shit. I dont know if its a good or bad idea for me.

I just did my best growing when I was a lazy grower. Seems the more I learn the worse shit gets. Well, I got issues where my somangos stopped eating and taking in water. Kinda sounds like root rot, but I recall from my aero days when root rot would hit you would know cause your pH would start getting all jacked. Any how I grew my best shit when I didnt do shit.

So I know lazy growing works its just a hard thing to do cause you want these things to be as phat as they can.
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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Hmmm, I think you maybe crossing the line from lazy to reckless growing there. The only thing close to that I ever heard of was using a fish pond as the reservour. The plants in the pond would filter out the outout from the roots and the fish provided the ferts. Maybe you could rig up a smaller version with a large aquarium. But I think you'd run into problems fairly quickly just recirculating water. I just love magical soil.
 

damakkus

West Coast ICer
Yeah it is wreckless, I feel like I am going mach 5 with my hair on fire type thing.

Recirculating water maybe a huge factor that I should look into.
 
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