GMT - i hear you bro, did the same thing to my old ibook... kicked the cord with the laptop connected to it... they sure do like price up those chargers. take care while your away, bartender187
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Lazy Growing
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Hey MGJ, no time to miss me, I'm back. When I got this laptop (3rd hand and unofficially), it came with some attachment on the back (an enhanced port replicator). Clearly I took it off and stored it. About an hour ago I remembered about it. It seems to charge the battery through an alternative connector somehow, so its now the size of a desktop on its side, but the laptop lives again, yay. Camera arrived at a delivery addy and is being dropped off to me tonight. still feel rough, 3 steps and i'm dizzy, hands and feet disappear on me etc, but sitting here typing, things dont seems quite so bad anymore.
Hey Pack, you sure do seem to get around. yeah I've never heard of AA before, guess I'm too young
Thanks BT, I was considering pricing up the repairs and then trying to put in a claim on the household insurance which included breakages, but alls well that ends well.
Hey TML, the joke was a good en, just worked on different levels and I was interested in which you intended.
hi core, got your pm, but saw it before your post, so directed you here, sorry about that.
Well, its good to be back once more.
Hey Pack, you sure do seem to get around. yeah I've never heard of AA before, guess I'm too young
Thanks BT, I was considering pricing up the repairs and then trying to put in a claim on the household insurance which included breakages, but alls well that ends well.
Hey TML, the joke was a good en, just worked on different levels and I was interested in which you intended.
hi core, got your pm, but saw it before your post, so directed you here, sorry about that.
Well, its good to be back once more.
guys, I need to ask some advice. I havent smoked since friday, and now I can just about manage it again, I'd like to try to stay off the tobacco. Joints just dont burn though without tobacco. I can only assume that those who say they do, are used to smoking with a lit lighter on the end of their joints. I have just discussed this in the chat room, and all i got back was you dont know what you're talking about, in europe they have bad soil, your buds arent dry, your not rolling your joints properly if they are going out, its the quality of your weed, etc, which needless to say after this long without a smoke, didnt go down all that well with me. I'm used to lighting my joints, leaving them while i do something and coming back to a burning joint. Now I put the lighter down and the joint is not lit anymore. Why does weed not burn? How can you smoke a joint without something to burn the weed for you? This is why we in the uk mix weed with tobbacco, because weed does not burn without something to burn it. What am I missing?
i think its because of the papers that the joint goes out....you have special ones here in belgium...and they dont go out...there the small orange rizla's...if you kno them....?
but why bother my friend just keep a lighter close ...i rather have it go out than it burns all the way up if you forget for a minute.....
P.S...i also roll with some tobacco 1/5 th of sigaret and i always need 2 relight it......
but why bother my friend just keep a lighter close ...i rather have it go out than it burns all the way up if you forget for a minute.....
P.S...i also roll with some tobacco 1/5 th of sigaret and i always need 2 relight it......
lol thanks core, yeah around 3 am, i found that the exact same ratio, 1/5th of a cigarette will keep a good amount of herb burning. Its the only solution for me, (although I will be on the look out for orange rizla rather than green next shopping trip to try them out).
Seriously, last night I was gagging for a joint, and the bud wasnt lit by the time I had put the lighter down, my head was so done in by it all. I figure, I'm going to have to accept a little tobbacco with my weed for good, although I am going to look into flavoured hand rolling tobacco and dry it out nicely. I hear that has far less of the added chemicals that cigs have. And someone else is picking me up some nicotine filled chewing gum today, to help with those cigarrette only moments. The papers could well be a main problem though, as I have always favoured the thicker paper skins rather than the thinner ones, and roll fairly thin joints, so maybe there just isnt enough air flow to keep pure weed lit in those conditions.
Seriously, last night I was gagging for a joint, and the bud wasnt lit by the time I had put the lighter down, my head was so done in by it all. I figure, I'm going to have to accept a little tobbacco with my weed for good, although I am going to look into flavoured hand rolling tobacco and dry it out nicely. I hear that has far less of the added chemicals that cigs have. And someone else is picking me up some nicotine filled chewing gum today, to help with those cigarrette only moments. The papers could well be a main problem though, as I have always favoured the thicker paper skins rather than the thinner ones, and roll fairly thin joints, so maybe there just isnt enough air flow to keep pure weed lit in those conditions.
hia GMT....i did some research and i found out that rizla is a belgium company....and i went to the site and it seems they only sell these oranje papers here in belgium......
they are double or triple in thickness thats why they dont go out..nway here is a link maybe if they do sell 'm....
the most orange 1 they are small ones....
http://www.rizla.com/_international1/welcome.shtml
about the sigarttes...you are right ...just handtobacco is better for smoking them manufactured siggy's...i used 2 work in a factory...they add things for cohesefness and flavours and glue for closing the papers not to mention the paper and tabacco itself...it all effects our lungs as you kno.....sorry for typo's
it just is so damn addictive !!!!
i tryed stopping to few months ago...but that woz so damn expensive on the 'old stash'..
...they are double or triple in thickness thats why they dont go out..nway here is a link maybe if they do sell 'm....
the most orange 1 they are small ones....
http://www.rizla.com/_international1/welcome.shtml
about the sigarttes...you are right ...just handtobacco is better for smoking them manufactured siggy's...i used 2 work in a factory...they add things for cohesefness and flavours and glue for closing the papers not to mention the paper and tabacco itself...it all effects our lungs as you kno.....sorry for typo's
it just is so damn addictive !!!!
i tryed stopping to few months ago...but that woz so damn expensive on the 'old stash'..
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Wow...you learn something new everyday
I would have to find alternative ways of smoking
I love smoking a joint....light it once and burn it down to your fingertips 
Doesn't tobacco seriously mar the taste of your oh so flavourful bud?
Ever since switching to aLeda rollies, even papers seem to mar the taste of a good joint
Is there no way a proper cure can't do something to ammend this problem?
Is this considered a problem all across Europe?
Sorry for asking so many questions GMT, I've never heard of this affliction of my EU potsmoking friends before
maybe thicker, faster burning papers could help. Don't roll too tight, and put a fair amount of weed in it
I would have to find alternative ways of smoking
I love smoking a joint....light it once and burn it down to your fingertips Doesn't tobacco seriously mar the taste of your oh so flavourful bud?
Ever since switching to aLeda rollies, even papers seem to mar the taste of a good joint
Is there no way a proper cure can't do something to ammend this problem?
Is this considered a problem all across Europe?
Sorry for asking so many questions GMT, I've never heard of this affliction of my EU potsmoking friends before
maybe thicker, faster burning papers could help. Don't roll too tight, and put a fair amount of weed in it
lmao yes core, I am worried about the future of my stash too with less baccy padding out each smoke. Thats interesting about the thickness, I doubt I'll be able to get those here, but now I know the direction, it seems rice papers may be better suited to higher herb content, so thick and reliable on the burn. What do ya reckon? Hand rolling baccy is my next stop on the route, just need to find one I like, so used to my brand of cigs.
hmmmm, tml, smartarse, lol, have to show off don't ya. Light it, smoke it, put out the roach, nothing but weed and paper, no continual flame source dangling from a smokers hat, no lighter in hand, no candles or near by naked flames of any sort what soever hey, no teams of skantilly glad girls taking it in turns to relight it as you take each toke, no get out clauses at all, you just light a 100% weed joint, and get to enjoy smoking it all with no problems and you had to share tha with me at this point, sod off. LMAO.
To be honest TML, when its how you start smoking, its like asking if bread mares the taste of a good buttie. Its not a joint without baccy for me. The only carioation in taste is the variation in taste of the herb, so you notice any differences instantly. And therefore they all register. A decent cure would probably help the situation a bit if I'm honest, but not by enough to make it stay lit for more than 2 tokes, at least for me so far. I have tried this before, and struggled on through a joint or 2 of pure before now, and its so troublesome that its not enjoyable. I also found it got me higher rather than more stoned of that makes sense. But in general terms, remember most peeps never see decent cured bud as most buy it and ya know how that goes.
hmmmm, tml, smartarse, lol, have to show off don't ya. Light it, smoke it, put out the roach, nothing but weed and paper, no continual flame source dangling from a smokers hat, no lighter in hand, no candles or near by naked flames of any sort what soever hey, no teams of skantilly glad girls taking it in turns to relight it as you take each toke, no get out clauses at all, you just light a 100% weed joint, and get to enjoy smoking it all with no problems and you had to share tha with me at this point, sod off. LMAO.
To be honest TML, when its how you start smoking, its like asking if bread mares the taste of a good buttie. Its not a joint without baccy for me. The only carioation in taste is the variation in taste of the herb, so you notice any differences instantly. And therefore they all register. A decent cure would probably help the situation a bit if I'm honest, but not by enough to make it stay lit for more than 2 tokes, at least for me so far. I have tried this before, and struggled on through a joint or 2 of pure before now, and its so troublesome that its not enjoyable. I also found it got me higher rather than more stoned of that makes sense. But in general terms, remember most peeps never see decent cured bud as most buy it and ya know how that goes.
i_score
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well im from europe and the people here in my coutry smoke mostly hash so every one uses tobacco in their mixes, as for weed it depend´s but still most prefere to ad tobacco, not just to burn well as to the quantity you need to have to smoke pure weed joints, in my case, as i am not a cigarett smoker i smoke pure weed, butt in bad times i used to add some dried trim leafs to the buds, i think if you want to stop smoking with tobacco and want the joints to be burning correctly, trimings are the solution, an alldough it afects the flavour i think it´s way better than adding tobacco!!
you are right, the clear solution is not to maicure the buds, just the fan leaves. Although as you say, that is going to affect the taste a lot. Also I like to manicure to perfection, but I have to get out of that way of thinking I guess. I have a harvest drying post manicure right now, but another in about a month, and I'll deffo spend less time trimming that up than normal.
kooki
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GMT said:
Being of irish parents i luv the name shamrock for a tri plant pheno , would be a really cool plant to grow if u cld get this trait to be stable, also the last comment made me spit tea all over the floor
lol and as for the smoking pure buds i admit i dont, i tend to use the king size rizla orange packs and use rolling tobacco(drum or similar) not a lot of tobacco mixed in but some, and more tends to be used nearer the "roach" end of the smoke, where it gets a bit warmer and i dont like to waste the buds on just stubbing the joint out 
great stuff GMT good luck 
TML, Still got ya leather handy?
Hi Kooki, thanks, yeah I found myself upping to around half a ciggy per joint. Although half of that half is all in the roach. I resented putting the first one out knowing there were still buds in there too lol. I'm gonna start asking around to see if they are available here (orange skins). Glad Shamrock is getting the thumbs up, now the hard thing will be settling on a generation that is worthy of being given the name, coz after that the next gen will be shamrock f2's etc, or shamrock bx's and then it all starts to get complicated again. right now they are simply bruisedberry (tri H) x bruised nuts. And still waiting for sex, well ya know what I mean.
Hi Kooki, thanks, yeah I found myself upping to around half a ciggy per joint. Although half of that half is all in the roach. I resented putting the first one out knowing there were still buds in there too lol. I'm gonna start asking around to see if they are available here (orange skins). Glad Shamrock is getting the thumbs up, now the hard thing will be settling on a generation that is worthy of being given the name, coz after that the next gen will be shamrock f2's etc, or shamrock bx's and then it all starts to get complicated again. right now they are simply bruisedberry (tri H) x bruised nuts. And still waiting for sex, well ya know what I mean.
I think that you may be rolling your joints either too loosely or too tightly, you'll find that tobacco (both rolling and cig) is pretty consistent in its size.. that means no big chunks to burn slowly while the paper goes up in smoke, or dust sized bits to choke off the airflow.
I find that well cured bud burns more consistently than freshly dried bud also..
I find that well cured bud burns more consistently than freshly dried bud also..
i_score
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yea GMT if you dont trim the buds to perfection the bud leafs are more than enouf to keep your joint´s burning, and as for the flavor is better to add cannabis leafs that still contain thc than adding tobacco that contains alot of bad thing´s to your sistem and the flavour is not that great,at least for me!just a question, do you guys use any tipe of filter in your joints??i know that most people in the U.S don´t use and i just can´t figure why not?
hi I score, I'm deffo gonna try that next harvest, the bud leaf i throw is always so sticky, I know that has to be far better for my lungs than any type of tobacco, and i'm sure the taste will be getusetoable. I use a rolled up piece of card doubled back on itself to form a baccy guard. but not a propper filter.
GMT said:
Heh
Not criticizing your rolling style at all, I think it might be more to do with how you break up your weed.. try getting more consistent size wise. Of course, I never smoke joints alone, always with friends so leaving it alone for a few minutes is something that happens only very rarely
