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jamaican "lambsbread"

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ESTERCHASER

ive had sweettooth #4 and id pay 100 a pack all day for them!
Im super cheap so thats saying something! messa round with these cultivars and get bit maga dog
he maga turn round bite ya!
https://youtu.be/KSN7Nz4ECQM
 
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ESTERCHASER

appleton estate rum and jamaican blue mountain coffee

appleton estate rum and jamaican blue mountain coffee

Merci Djimb, i'm glad that those few hundreds seeds and its return in situ represents a kind of philosophy that makes people think. The idea is even more important than the action itself imho. By knowing that this Lambsbread is still there in the hills of Jah, rare but still present! As most other origins strains nowadays, they' are alive but in danger! Our selected work will be simply re combine to the great tropical outdoor.

The most important thing is that it can inspîre young growers more and more. I mean in this way you also can understand better the whole range of the cannabis diversity, in terms of stature but also in terms of effects and terpenes.

A large part of the current market descends from OG/Skunk/NL/Blueberry/Haze and despite the large range of specimens win it also represents an average portion of what cannabis can bring! An other idea is to be able to recreate differently those types of declinations and develloping news things.

So paradoxically i think that even with a micro space a grower can do macro actions with landraces/heirlooms, but despite everything and at first we have to select, reproduce, and share the pure form. And F1ing by the way! :biggrin:

mom used to bring to me to gatherings with rasta where id hear about things that i could never see with my own eyes, the hills on that sacred island are a blessing! Anyone who knows .......knows....i was raised by a sweet jamaican lady who had four sons...m kali....chunga.....soloman (who has since passed and broke my heart) and dakota................I cant put into words what this mans posts mean to me....its like being a kid again. many thx rom!:biggrin:
 
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I miss my friends! COME back to these green mtns!

id like to see what becomes of these seeds next round!
 

ChiefOrganic

New member
Hey ICMag crew! My buddy Roms convinced me to start posting here, so I thought I'd share some pictures of my current run with this beautiful cultivar :)

Here are the ladies theoughout the various stages of flower. The last one is the very end of week 11. This is a minimum 18 week finisher; however, a 10/14 light schedule and dry conditions will probably have these finishing in 14 weeks with reduced yeilds.
 

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ChiefOrganic

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Here are some shots of the boys!
 

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Roms

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Yah welcome to IC ChiefOrganic!

And big thanks for your parallel F6 repro brotha!
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= more seeds and more genes to be back in Jam with Emanuel, Irie!
 

Bud Green

I dig dirt
Veteran
These are some of the much nicer roads I walked along in 1972, in the many miles I walked in the back hills of Jamaica in my search for the highest of the high tops...

I met so many good people there back then...:tiphat:
Some would offer me meals because they would say I looked hungry,
and some offered me a place to stay at night...

And there was always the ganja that they shared so freely with me!:dance013:

These little Jamaican boys were very friendly and full of questions when they ran out to greet me...I don't think they'd ever met a white man before..
These boys would both be about 55 years old now...

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funkyhorse

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Maestro Roms, I hope you dont mind me posting here but I believe if you post on open forum is because you might want some feedback

Very interesting link the one you posted from Rahan
Is there any Vibes Collective list of strains that you have kept/conserved or worked? or any VB thread?

As a lowly third world ragamuffin without friends in the Cannaworld I am growing the only varieties commercially available which contain Lambsbread and I am learning with them: The Double Jam F2 repro and original JGL Coljam which I dont know if its first or second edition.
Do you know what Coljam version JGL gave Aeritos during their collaboration?

I have 2 different Double Jam which have very different structure.
Double Jam F2 1 is branchy and have very airy buds which foxtail and the Double Jam 2 is a curious plant which keeps growing and stretching after 75 days and has a huge central cola. In Double Jam 2 the lower polinized buds are made faster than the rest of the plant. I have the purple buds in the bottom of th plant but the top cof the central bud has plenty of white pistils.
Both of them show purple bracts after day 80. I am in summertime, temperature is between 23-30C at the tent, so this is no winter purpling. The Lambsbread mother was purple and the trait has passed.

Is the pheno of Jamaican Blue Mountain 85 used in the cross a single cola plant?

I had 3 coljam males and a female. I couldnt get pollen out of one of the males, sadly was the one with the longest flowering and the thinnest leaves
The Coljam female is foxtailing after 90 days in flower and has more dense flowers than Double Jam. She dont show the purple bracts

I read the chat on the Lambsbread repro from Blan-k-flor and Mustafunk. Blan-k did a repro mantaining the hermies and they both agreed that hermies where the most potent plants.
So my question is: are you culling potency when culling hermies? Because I can see this is special genetics, the purple trait stands out. Are the green phenos more potent than the purple ones? Does this apply to other long flowering sativas which have inside their genetic diversity purple phenos?
Will these hermie males become hermie in Jamaica or they would be happy normal males if grown at home?

Another thing I am seeing is that there is no real difference in the high of long flowering sativas if it is grown sinsemilla or lightly seeded. But there is a very interesting shorter flowering time, though you harvest less. If Lambsbread is going back to Jamaica and hopefully be offered one day at the Kingston dispensary which could deliver to the whole world, it would be interesting and a win/win for everybody if they learn in Jamaica the mastery of lightly seeding ganja.
It would also be very interesting if they learn to ferment ganja. This strain is ideal for that


Thank you for your thread, it is refreshening seeing truth and amateur spirit
 

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Roms

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I hope you dont mind me posting here but I believe if you post on open forum is because you might want some feedback

Salut Funkyhorse, ya open scene educational purpose mostly!
At the time and before its closure the VibesCo was private but nowadays the scene and landrace interest is different and more public too.

Very interesting link the one you posted from Rahan
Is there any Vibes Collective list of strains that you have kept/conserved or worked? or any VB thread?
Sorry no VibesCo list and no dedicated thread, the private community was few and less than 100 if i remember right. ;)
Anyway a backup of the site and its strainguide is there with elders. We currently talk about a revival of all but in public!...

As a lowly third world ragamuffin without friends in the Cannaworld I am growing the only varieties commercially available which contain Lambsbread and I am learning with them: The Double Jam F2 repro and original JGL Coljam which I dont know if its first or second edition.
Do you know what Coljam version JGL gave Aeritos during their collaboration?
I don't really know JGL's breeding details, i think you should ask Cristallin for Coljam and Cannabiogen for the Blue Mountain!
Btw your big phenoz come from the Lambsbread side that i think more wild and branchy. Also the endless phenoz are part of tropical sativa in general. ;)

I read the chat on the Lambsbread repro from Blan-k-flor and Mustafunk. Blan-k did a repro mantaining the hermies and they both agreed that hermies where the most potent plants.
So my question is: are you culling potency when culling hermies?
^^ If hermies are really the most potent i don't know, i doubt, but the genetic sex hermie combinaison could create special cannabinoids actions...? I wonder, the thing is interesting to study big up to Blan-k-flor! But i don't think that you culling potency when you deselect hermies.

Up to a certain limit i think that all the genetic is in dormancy and if you let Nature operate outdoor all genes could be back!? Anyway even with the selection of the best hermies you create another bottleneck and with openpolliniz you rarify the really good ones with stable sex so... ?

About the greens and purples specimens i find that the greens are more spicy, carrot, floral. Purples ones are more fuel, fruity, bubble gum. ;)

Another thing I am seeing is that there is no real difference in the high of long flowering sativas if it is grown sinsemilla or lightly seeded.
There is differences between pures sativas bro, up to 15 weeks flowering you can have differents kinds of sativa high like : Trippy paranoid (Central Africa, Thai, Malawi) ; excited heart beat anti-hunger (South Africa) ; dreamy happy warm mellow body (India, East Africa). Well it's not as simple but it can orient! :)

Thanks Funkyhorse and good suite with your Jamaican ganjah passion!
 

Cvh

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We currently talk about a revival of all but in public!...

Keeping my fingers crossed. :)
Just hinting, but ACE now collaborates with several landrace collectives.
I think the market is more then ready.
 

Roms

Well-known member
Veteran
Ya merci à toi Ahortator for info and links! :)

For now it seems that Emanuel doesn't have the true old line, and according to his plants and greenhouse they all looks like modern hybrids! Quite far from the 70s Jamaican ganjah!

But recently thanks to Kush Kloud he received new different tropical heirlooms lines more pure sativa. With his next grows i think that Emanuel and his team will better know what is really a pure sativa... ^^ That makes me realize that we have to wait few months before share our line with them in facts, for now it seems that they aren't really aware about the true sacred Lambsbread, patience i think. I'm in contact with him via IG but i think that he already doesn't realize absolutely the bottom of things... Well simply need time and learnings... Patience again n' again... ;)

Btw i look forward the grow of the seeds he found with the old Jamaican man which that dailymail press article talks about!
 
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