jamaican "lambsbread"

[AfricanMagic]

Thank you for that info Jammal. And thank you to all others who also answered my questions.
Sounds like Caribe is the only available that is close to authentic King Solomon Jamaican 'erb.

Bless.

 

[AfricanMagic]

Anybody know if these are authentic? Is this company trustworthy?
https://oldschoolba.com/product/lambsbread/

 

[right]

The lambs bread I got in the early 90s was broad leaved . I was told that this because of the introduction of sk#1.
At any rate it wasn't the same thing as early as the early 90s

 

[Jammal]

Yeah the caribe jamaican is the blue mountain 85'

The other one is the purple 79' I believe

These were crossed to do the double jam.

I believe you can get a Coljam ,,, colombian gold 79'X jam 79'...called coljam by underground seeds I think...something like that

Be a cool one to use to pollinate with caribe and excellent choice both are back crosses and will yield some extremely vigorous sativa ganga tree

 

[right]

Yeah the caribe jamaican is the blue mountain 85'

The other one is the purple 79' I believe

These were crossed to do the double jam.

I believe you can get a Coljam ,,, colombian gold 79'X jam 79'...called coljam by underground seeds I think...something like that

Be a cool one to use to pollinate with caribe and excellent choice both are back crosses and will yield some extremely vigorous sativa ganga tree

Right, the blue mtn was good , but not exactly what I was looking for. I'm still bumbed about missing the double jam . I'd like to see ace carrying more of cannabiogen and underground seed.

 

[right]

We also used to get something called goat shit . It looks like smashed shit , but I think they called it goat shit because rastas grew it in goat shit idk. It was a good one too.

 

[djimb]

It's been a while, but the last time I looked, Cannabiogen carried ColJam for a super reasonable price.

And for the sake of clarity, the Colombian Gold in ColJam isn't the 1972 that USC offered on its own, it's another line from 1980 with a slight WLD influence (from what I understand)

 

[djimb]

Oh, and I meant to mention ColJam is a backcrossto the Colombian parent, so it's only 25% JLB.

 

[Jammal]

Oh, and I meant to mention ColJam is a backcrossto the Colombian parent, so it's only 25% JLB.

Another thing to consider when your talking about a back cross like that....with coljam and caribe....its not just 75% Colombian, it was bacrossed 2 generation to the same parent plant....the dominance of that genetic is significant ,makes more like 90%+

 

[AfricanMagic]

My friends, anybody know how the plants from the land of Selassie compare to the Lambsbread of the islands?
https://www.aceseeds.org/en/strains/etiopestd.html
Bless up.

 

[Roms]

Lambsbread needs 4 or 5 weeks of flowering more according Ace Ethiopian 13/14 weeks information. Anyway historically they are related in the age + there is always a big difference between a landrace strain in situ and its IBL and its selection from breeders. In this case maybe Ace's Ethiopian is selected on precocity?

 

[kookied]

Only place you will find the old Kai weed is deep into the cockpit country of Jamaica

 

[Roms]

Alright Kookied, it must still be in good roots rasta hands!

Vibes Collective F6 will be mature soon...

 

[mexcurandero420]

Don't know if this was already shown in this thread, jbl probably next to Lee Scratch Perry.

 

[Roms]

Yah brotha post #617
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8278381&postcount=617
Anyway better twice! Big up to the "B" dub side and its creator!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLSpUlPBKic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bnmDmOcCxQ


Little report about terpz... The line now has a majority of banana fruity specimens mixed to bubble gum, there's just a few 3 or 4 of my 17 fem that have classic carrot and spicy background. the genetic diversity quickly gone!

I am smoking males right now and it's really energic, nice electric vibes that remember me the Swazi rooi for example or the Kerala. So it reasures me about the purity of the line because the bubble gum note made me doubt. (By knowing ODW cross the JLB to a Chiquita Banana S1 mom!) Just rum coincidence but it made me paranoid today, that's why i decided to smoke the males to be better and it works yah!

So a purple and banana generation F6 for most! I would say that the next Vibes Collective reproductions will have to be focused on the minority spicy carrots and other fruits possible (apple, mango etc). Story to inverse, revive and limit the genetic bottleneck as much as possible. Peace

 

[romanoweed]

Cool Roms
That sounds like you breed back and forth.. so you choose one side of the spectrum and the other time when reproduing you choose the other side. hmm. What do you think of holding this two sides always as separate Lines and combine them one day (like "outcrossing" since they differ from each other) ?


And how do this f6 compare to the original line in smokequality? still same trippy?

 

[Roms]

Good point Romano, of course depending on breeders, sensible differents lines are always the result of a landrace IBLing. You can create many terpz and effects with just one landrace but it doesn't take a long time to stabilize, i would say F7 but then you lost a lot of genes quickly and the line becomes weak. That's why i talk about the in and out breeding spectrum like you say. Also the best attitude with something F7 for example is the backcross to the original landrace. And perpetuate the thing like that because without human good selection the cannabis be back feral and herma by the true natural open pollination!

So you can keep each selected lines separated but in the end you finish with clone F10 before the line becoming weak. The real goal in the end is seeds for next generations ya know!


ChiefOrganic new member who reproduce F6 in parallele and I will report the high next months, patience. In principle JLB is not really trippy as Thai or Malawi, it's a cool, dreamy and happy, powerly clean flying carpet that has no celling kind of high n high...

 

[romanoweed]

shure , the more lines you have separate the longer you would need to mix the weed from that separate in the Joint hahaha.. or you can cross them all together, so that you can roll one normal Joint, and yes, thats the Point where you had even more work to doo.. crossing 4 Lines Needs 3 crossing-process`s .




I aim for Potency (ultimate Trippyness), and to be undependent on the initial Seedbatch, nothing else, not efen Flavour.
If i am able to reproduce a Line, so that the least amount of what includes "ultimate trippyness" is compromised, thats the breeding i am searching for. I can compromise things i anyway dont need, but then actually "ultimate trippyness" might need quiet a broad band of traits...


Staying on the same Level for important traits is what i do, im getting broke from time to time, so i cant garanty continous freeezing of beans, so thats why.


Hermies, i dont care



I go for 4 separate selected Lines, aswell as a minimal Selection-Line (open poll) in wich i cull 20 Percent wild`ish plants. Mix them in Joint for Smoking. So, then my Consumer-seedbatch will never be createt then, i will ever run this Maximum-genetic-setting. But if i woud want i could do that consumer-batch any secound.

Everyone its own, sounds like you search more for a flavorful Elevation with lambsbread. I thought lambsbread was the trippy elite. but actually i remember 70s Thai , panama, and something like central african are the potency elite.

 

[hubcap]

Only place you will find the old Kai weed is deep into the cockpit country of Jamaica

Seek out, and find, the right people, and, they give tours of their grows and sells samples to tourists.


Cant be a douche, though. Spread the "love" around (aka money) and many doors will open for you in Jam.




-cap

 

[Roms]

@romanoweed
The most elite trippy or hallucinogenic potent weed that i know and experienced are Congo, Malawi and Thai yah by cons those Congo, Malawi and Thai are also the most potent paranoid and mentally dangerous ones. If your search that kind of strong killer high try the three way cross with them, you will not be disappointed! However it's a matter of selecting the best of them from the start because they also have some minor and hempy kind green specimens like all landrace strains imho.

Everyone its own, sounds like you search more for a flavorful Elevation with lambsbread.

With all strains terpenes are my breeding goal yes, i found strawberry with Mazar i shariff and cocacola with Swazi for example, not common but not common high also i can assure you in! Terpernes are synonymous to the potency of effects. The more fruity ones are often the most confortable with no celling and the more dark ones are the more psychedelic from my experience. I would suggest you to find those dark, earthy and pepper spicy ones to find the most potent real trippy!