jamaican "lambsbread"

[djimb]

The short version:

The legal market is still brand new and consumers are generally uneducated. They look to leafly or the budtender to educate them. Inevitably, they're sold something with Durban x Skunk in its lineage or a little bit of Haze and a lot of NL as a "sativa".

As time goes on, people will be more likely to do their own research and demand a greater variety of higher quality product

 

[djimb]

Long version (cause I Like to smoke and write):

Right now, I think we can make two comparisons to the current state of the cannabis market, depending on its legal status: liquor during prohibition, or in the case of legal areas, warm season agricultural products like tomatoes.

In illegal markets, folks are generally happy to get what they can. During liquor prohibition in th US, that often meant bathtub gin or moonshine made in a still built out of a car radiator (in our case, anti freeze and methanol aren't the dangers, but pesticides, bud hardeners, and mold are).

During prohibition, It's entirely likely that imported liquor, smuggled from other countries, was available to the affluent or well connected. While that was true of Cannabis before about the 80s, since the introduction of hash plant genetics and the advent of local indoor grows, that hasn't really been the case.

In these markets, the traits that have helped producers maximize profit while minimizing risk have been advertised as being good for consumers, too: fast, fat colas of rock hard flowers. The fruit/candy flavors and apparent trichome density helps sell it too, 'cause people are generally attracted to sparkly, sweet things.

In legal markets, these same forces have been at play for decades, but now there's an added layer of industrialization. In these areas, we see a race to the bottom. Whoever can pump out the most mediocre flower and extract for the lowest cost wins.

In this case, we can look at tomatoes for a fair comparison. With the advent of industrial agriculture and the shipping industry, people who were accustomed to eating out of cans over the winter could buy fresh produce year round. I imagine the hot house tomato was initially very popular during the winter, but people still kept vegetable gardens during the growing season. These days, an entire generation of people may have only ever experienced industrial tomatoes, and think that mealy, pale and bland is the norm. That's where the legal cannabis market is currently headed.

And much like heirloom varieties of tomato have seem rising popularity over the last decade or so, I expect heirloom cannabis will continue to grow in popularity as well. Let's just hope it doesn't take 40 years to enter the consciousness of the public at large.

Eventually, depending on what the regulatory landscape looks like in the future, I expect that small prestige brands will emerge, producing limited runs of long flowering varieties, cured for 6 months to a year or more, much like you see with aged single malt scotch. Hopefully, the doors will open for imports as well, but I think that's farther off, at least in the US.

 

[onefinity]

^ amen!

 

[48N]

I like the tomato analogy !

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

I got the JLB F3 all seeded up with JLB f4's should have about 200 seeds.
NOT FOR SALE!!!!!! Hope everyone knows how to read! @MUSTAFUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlfvSDo0RZk bumpa brotha!



By tested i mean if they have already flowered till the end without intersex trait like pistil on apex top. Then we could also stress them to reveal or not the thing but it's not really needed i think. Doing a classic grow is enough and simplifying but the flowering time must be also long enough to be sure to not transmit that sex instability to the offspring. Ya know it was hard to find stable true males with previous generations... By cons i know that the last F5 from JGL produce more males, do you confirm broz?

I have the F3's. The males were true males and didnt show any intersex traits. The JLB f3 I seeded was the best smelling JLB out of all the beans I grew out. Smells exotic and sweet. Its fully seeded with f4's. Probably get about 200 seeds. I was asked not to give out or sell the Pure line of JLB by MustaFunk. I guess he wants the capital on that line. So Im making Chiquita Banana x Jamaican LambsBread f1's. Calling it Jamaican Banana Bread.
Im doing the pure line to keep it preserved over on my end.
Seems evertime I post anything about the JLB MustaFunk drives a spike up my ass, so Im not going to post shit about the JLB anymore and just do my thing in secret.
Have a great day Roms! Thank You again for the beans! Trying to do my part for the preservation side of things. If you want some of these F4's just let me know.
Was also gonna ask MustaFunk if he wanted some too but fuck that! He does nothing but bother me everytime I even mention JLB.
He acts like the JLB is HIS strain and his alone! Its the worlds strain and if I want to make F4's I damn sure will! Mustafunk wants every dollar from the pure line to line HIS POCKETS! Thats fine. I wont ever give out or sell the JLB pure. But damn straight Im making hybrids and selling them.... Thank you Roms!
Funny how 1 human being thinks they own a plant. LOL! Mustafunk is sooo butthurt you gave me these seeds in the U.S Roms. He hates the fact that I have these. The fear and anger just grips him hard. He feels like there's loose ends that could foil his masterplan to make millions off the pure line of JLB. Dont worry Musta....
I still respect the wishes of the Vibes Collective as a whole, But I lost all respect for you.
That PM you sent me just broke the camels back. Just cauze I preserved the line doesnt mean Im selling them!

 

[Mustafunk]

Keep the bullshit... who cares on your opinion or your respect? Your reputation precedes you, zero credibility. You never had mine in the first place, I knew you were an oportunist after your first post, that's why some people kept an eye on you.

But damn straight Im making hybrids and selling them....

That's exactly why I tried to explain why you should respect the heritage behind this line and Rahan's hard work on preserving it and bringing it to the scene. Because I knew where you were coming from, but obviously no ethics, respect or whatsoever... it's obvious you are just trying to draw attention and get promotion here.

Mustafunk wants every dollar from the pure line to line HIS POCKETS!

Those who know me know what's up, for me respect and the Truth is everything and I would never make money off something I shouldn't. I'm not really interested in such low hanging fruit to be honest. But you pictured yourself, you already did the same with Hammer's Kush and other stuff from what some people told me.

You are just another con artist and oportunist trying to cash on other people's work... feel free to join the Hall of Fame with others like BSC, ACE, Breeder's Choice, Coastal Seeds, Snow High and so on. They all cashed on several lines, sometimes without even asking, and never even gave credit about it or public recognition to those who provided the genetics they've chucked on. Same birds flock together but no worries, Karma always pays back .

The funny thing is that most of this stuff won't ever transcend. Like my friend says, you can give some people a legal acre to grow, a bag of top genetics and they won't even be able to produce anything interesting. It's all smoke and mirrors. The whole seed scene is nowadays, that's why some people don't give a damn about it.

People like you are the reason some others decide to keep genetics close to their chest. So there you go, "creator of exquisite strains" like your IG profile preaches.

Enjoy while you can.

 

[Pineapple_Punch]

Im on Mustafunks side, he always was friendly and gave me some great beans i never could get on my own.( Oaxaca 12 Fingers, Oaxaca 4 Blood, Mextiza etc.)

And i don't know someone who has a bigger knowledge about Cannabis, especially Sativas.

P.S: I'll hold my promise to repro the 12 Fingers and send you some back. I know you are a bit mad about me cause i didn't repro them till now, but will do it. Will hold the line private, as always.

 

[Mr. Roseberry]

... anyway feel free to join the Hall of Fame with others like BSC, ACE, CBG, Breeder's Choice, Coastal Seeds, Snow High and so on.

Brazilian Seed Company too? Uggggggg, it never stops

 

[oaxacapulco]

Im on Mustafunks side, he always was friendly and gave me some great beans i never could get on my own.( Oaxaca 12 Fingers, Oaxaca 4 Blood, Mextiza etc.)

And i don't know someone who has a bigger knowledge about Cannabis, especially Sativas.

P.S: I'll hold my promise to repro the 12 Fingers and send you some back. I know you are a bit mad about me cause i didn't repro them till now, but will do it. Will hold the line private, as always.

Aren't you the guy who wanted to cash in on the Oaxacan by selling it out to an Austrian clone shop like 2 days ago?
Then the seed sponsor sent you a message and you edited out the dubious part from your comment? ROFL.

 

[willydread]

I think we can agree or not, we can have different opinions, but we must respect the breeder...unfortunately this does not always happen, on the contrary, in the last thirty years there has been little respect...
I am the first to desire oaxaca 79, or this lambsbread, or panama 74, or certain strains of kanga or bushweed, or other "fine" strain,however, if the breeder asks not to sell it pure, we must respect his will, even more so if the breeder is dead....
this can be counterproductive for the preservation of the strain, but respect above all ....
My 2 cent

 

[Pineapple_Punch]

Aren't you the guy who wanted to cash in on the Oaxacan by selling it out to an Austrian clone shop like 2 days ago?
Then the seed sponsor sent you a message and you edited out the dubious part from your comment? ROFL.

You have no clue what you're talking about, at first they don't give someone money for bringing a clone here in Vienna. At least not that i know about it, as far as i know you may get a few % discount price on clones, and i already pay just around 6 Euro for a clone. Most the time i grow from seeds!

I wanted that more people can enjoy a Oaxaca clone, nothing else, it is not wished so i edited my Post. I don't live in the States where people want crazy prices for a little plant.

And i didn't received a message by the sponsor, the sponsor who gave me the Oaxaca79xOaxaca seeds is RC_Colas. I received a message by someone who knows elchischas mich better as i.

Edit; And when you would read the edited part of this post you would know that i wrote that i must ask the Seed sponsor before i could do it! The Post is still there. So shut up Monkey!

 

[tcherno]

Sir

+10000000

 

[Roms]

@ODW, you are welcome and keep it cool with amigo Mustafunk, he is very attentive to the respect and the aura aroud this special rasta heritage and he is right! Forgive you brotha

Btw great game your banana F1s and projects with JLB, another reproduction pure would be good too and freebees à gogo near your breeding business wishes! And more and more repeat that this strain is the peace and it must be free and gratis, if it will help the elevation of consciousness! Jah bless'

 

[baduy]

@ODW, you are welcome and keep it cool with amigo Mustafunk, he is very attentive to the respect and the aura aroud this special rasta heritage and he is right! Forgive you brotha

Btw great game your banana F1s and projects with JLB, another reproduction pure would be good too and freebees à gogo near your breeding business wishes! And more and more repeat that this strain is the peace and it must be free and gratis, if it will help the elevation of consciousness! Jah bless'

Cool! Where do I get those free beans? It seems I missed the link to be part of this vertuous non-commercial cycle

 

[troutman]

Cool! Where do I get those free beans? It seems I missed the link to be part of this vertuous non-commercial cycle

1st you have to go the island to drink some dark rum and then everything is going to be irie.

 

[baduy]

So that means they probably are already somewhere in my fridge. I'll have to dig, I can be so messy sometimes

 

[Roms]

Ahah so good the dark rhum, with moderation and reason!

Peace @Baduy your post link, simply ask from me ODW in private and you can have the thing no problemo i think! The only requirement would be to reproduce and re share it if you can! Or in the other hand you can buy something from OvergrowDaWorld and have them as freebees!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Even the MustaFunk just doesnt get and has no clue about me and what I do. You Roms gave me these beans. MustaFunk threatened to turn you in and me as well to his friends The "SUPERMOD" on ICMag for trading beans. We didnt trade anything. You gifted them to me in private. I told this fucking clown MustaFunk 10,000x's Im not going to sell or give them out. I was doing my part to preserve them.
Hes threatening me with court and lawyers cauze I used a pure male and a hermi free female to make hundreds of seeds. I was gonna only keep 50 and send the rest back to MustaFunk and yourself but after the words and disrespect he gave me for preserving this line????? Fuk him!

He said he spent all kinds of money already mapping the genetic markers of this line so he doesnt make any money off it???? Who you fooling Mustafunk?
Go ahead and be a little snitch. Go ahead and call the cannabis police!
Im a man of my word and never even let 1 seed pass from my hands to another. But now??? I just may give these F4's out as freebies with every seed order. 20 free JLB f4's with EVERY ORDER! You want to come at me like I didnt respect the wishes of Roms when he gave them to me? No wonder the Vibes Collective isnt around anymore. Your probably the reason Musta!
If your gonna blame me for giving these out or selling them.....then I may as well just go ahead and do it. Keep pushing me! You think I would even care about not being on ICMag? This isnt a business outlet for me. Its a random site I go to, to visit people that will absolutely clarify for you "who I am" and "what Im about." Any questions.....you can sweetly whisper them into my buttcrack.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

@ODW, you are welcome and keep it cool with amigo Mustafunk, he is very attentive to the respect and the aura aroud this special rasta heritage and he is right! Forgive you brotha

Btw great game your banana F1s and projects with JLB, another reproduction pure would be good too and freebees à gogo near your breeding business wishes! And more and more repeat that this strain is the peace and it must be free and gratis, if it will help the elevation of consciousness! Jah bless'

I love you Roms. Your the ONLY REASON I havent given out 1 seed of this and sacraficed so much from my grow to reproduce this rare gem. MustaFunk trying to copywrite this strain and TM its genetics is like Simon The Sorcerer trying to pay for the Power of the Holy Spirit.
Pretty funny actually.
Ive followed all rules around this plant. Do you guys know if you buy seeds from MustaFunk you have to sign papers saying you can get sued if you reproduce it? I shit you not! But its not about the money for this clown. I truly hope you guys see right threw him and know that Im damn sure making hybrid crosses with the Pure Male.
Jamaican BananaBread. The Banana is already seeded up!
only 6 weeks till harvest. Itll be alright Musta.
Stop going crazy on my PM's and Ill continue to never give out or sell them in pure form.
You keep talking down to me like Im giving out these pure seeds, and I will make it a mission to spread 100's of thousands of them in Pure Form across the entire United States. Fuck with me!