jamaican "lambsbread"

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Keep the bullshit... who cares on your opinion or your respect? Your reputation precedes you, no credibility. You never had mine in the first place, I knew you were full of shit since your first post, that's why some people kept an eye on you.



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OMG, you are hilarious... those who know me know what's up, for me respect and the Truth is everything. Plus I'm not really interested in such low hanging fruit to be honest. But you pictured yourself since you are paving the way to cash and chuck on it, you already did the same with Hammer's Kush and other stuff from what people told me, isn't it?

You are just another con trying to cash on other people's work... anyway feel free to join the Hall of Fame with others like BSC, ACE, CBG, Breeder's Choice, Coastal Seeds, Snow High and so on. They all cashed on several lines, sometimes without even asking, and never even gave credit about it or public recognition to those who provided the genetics they've chucked on. Same birds flock together but no worries, Karma always pays back Lol.


Enjoy while you can.

Hey Hammer.......you care to tell everyone what I actually did with your Hammers Kush??
The rumors and lies must end.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

You can snitch on Roms and I. You can take me to court. I never signed shit and had these beans before you ever did any of this other legal red tape shit.
Get it through your thick head! I have never sold or gave away not 1 bean.
Outa respect for Roms. Not YOU.
But I just got Roms blessing....so..... I can spread them FAR and Wide and destroy your monopoly on the JLB. Im not going too....but....Keep pushing. Just keep pushing. You'll have like 5000 people to take to court! The JLB will be spread so far and wide you wont know what to do. But for now its in safe hands and has always been in safe hands. Despite what internet trolls have said to you about me. LMFAO! Theres a sucker born every minute. Keep believing what you hear on the internet. The more trolls I get...the more it motivates me to succeed!
I got a guy on here whos friend tried to steal my name PVG. He has it up now on IG.
You dont see me sueing him or fighting with him about it. Let him do his thing. If he wants my name that bad, then let him have it. Doesnt hurt my company one bit.
But your scared to loose your monopoly on this strain cause the THC-V could be worth Billions to Big Pharma. All this legal bullshit and you investing tons of money into this strain BUT its not to line your pockets with money though. LMFAO!!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Keep the bullshit... who cares on your opinion or your respect? Your reputation precedes you, no credibility. You never had mine in the first place, I knew you were full of shit since your first post, that's why some people kept an eye on you.



That's exactly why I tried to explain why you should respect the heritage behind this line and Rahan's hard work on preserving it and bringing it to the scene. Because I knew where you were coming from, but obviously no ethics, respect or whatsoever... it's obvious you are just trying to draw attention and get free advertisting here.



OMG, you are hilarious... those who know me know what's up, for me respect and the Truth is everything. Plus I'm not really interested in such low hanging fruit to be honest. But you pictured yourself since you are paving the way to cash and chuck on it, you already did the same with Hammer's Kush and other stuff from what people told me, isn't it?

You are just another con trying to cash on other people's work... anyway feel free to join the Hall of Fame with others like BSC, ACE, CBG, Breeder's Choice, Coastal Seeds, Snow High and so on. They all cashed on several lines, sometimes without even asking, and never even gave credit about it or public recognition to those who provided the genetics they've chucked on. Same birds flock together but no worries, Karma always pays back Lol.


You are lucky that Roms didn't know you were unreliable and had a seed company before. People like you are the reason some others decide to keep genetics close to their chest. So there you go, "creator of exquisite strains" like your IG profile preaches.

Enjoy while you can.

1 - you keep believing what you here on the internet. Ask Hammer what happened and what I did!

2 - look at my story on IG! I gave full credit to the Vibes Collective PUBLICLY and even stated these were going back to the Vibes Collective! That was my plan but fuck yourself.

3 - People like me are why people hoard genetics?
Ive had these beans for 9 years and never gave out 1 seed.
But now thats gonna change bigtime! Nice going Musta! Your paranoid dillusions just screwed yourself over! Ive followed the "RULES" to a T, to not give away or sell the JLB pure. Ive publically stated on IG thread that no beans are available. It was a preservation project that was going back to you guys if you wanted them. You Sir are an IDIOT and put your own foot deep in your own mouth.
Go ahead and report me to your SuperMod friend. Getting kicked off ICMag is like seeing a penny on the ground. Noone cares!

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Another thread gone to shit.

 

[Rico _El_Guapo]

At least the rest of us know the story, and that someone is actually putting in great work. JLB is definitely one that should be preserved.
All this legal plant patents has gone way to far... everyone knows that the cuts I grow won't be the same as, my cuts that you grow, so I think it's time to relax on who has what now.
If it's really an issue, take a flight down to mobay, hook up with reliable people down there, and get the real deal from the source. It's down there, and most of the older dudes that have it are willing to share.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I got my Honduran that way.

 

[Hammerhead]

Hey Hammer.......you care to tell everyone what I actually did with your Hammers Kush??
The rumors and lies must end.

My cuts have 2 simple rules. Not to be sold and not to be shared with dispensarys. lets keep it that way, please..

Unless there where restrictions placed on seeds there isn't anything we can do. Even if someone breaks those restrictions there still nothing we can do. Cannabis is still federally illegal. That includes the seeds.
Please make sure u add s1 to the Cbanana.
Peace
HH

 

[willydread]

the sad thing is that you are talking about Jamaican lambsbread,a perfect means of peace and brotherhood, you were also given for this, right?
I am a Rasta, I was taught the medical and spiritual use of the plant, as well as for the high,also as a means of unity among people (especially growers)...
It is sad to see these things here....
better turn on a spliff and bring everything back to calm ....

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

My cuts have 2 simple rules. Not to be sold and not to be shared with dispensarys. I have received PM's from people that got my cut from OvergrowDaWorld that they dint pay for it. lets keep it that way please..

Thank you Hammer.
Its a shame that your so angry and protective over the JLB Mustafunk. You've royally attacked my word, my integrity, and my reputation for following the rules told to me by Roms.

Rule 1 - Dont gave away any seed or clone in pure form.

Rule 2 - I can make hybrids with them. but NO ONE is to get the pure form.

Ive kept my word for 9 years and will continue to keep my word.
Im preserving these seeds because its the right thing to do.
These are so rare and almost extinct that I felt the need to produce the seed in pure form. Its a labor of love. I sacraficed alot of money I coulda made to do this project.
Its been an inconvenience on the highest level.
I will continue to keep telling you that Im not doing anything with the pure seed, other than sending them back to Roms if he wants them. Keeping only 50 for myself.

To bad you have to ruin a strain you supposedly love with legalities and red tape. you will find that talking nicely to a person will get you alot further than making uncalled for accusations and slandering a persons rep with lies.

 

[troutman]

But your scared to loose your monopoly on this strain cause the THC-V could be worth Billions to Big Pharma.

You can't patent Landraces and this is to protect us from a big company holding patents on all the plants in the World.
4 conditions need to be met before a patent can be granted. Landraces fail to comply with the criteria required.

1. Novelty – The strain must be actually new (i.e., not known, used, or sold elsewhere previously).

2. Distinctness – The strain must have unique characteristics (i.e., traits that are clearly distinguishable from other varieties).

3. Homogeneity – The strain must be uniform (i.e., the unique characteristics do not vary across plants).

4. Stability – The strain must remain true (i.e., does not change after repeated propagation).

 

[PionerVallygenX]

You can snitch on Roms and I. You can take me to court. I never signed shit and had these beans before you ever did any of this other legal red tape shit.
Get it through your thick head! I have never sold or gave away not 1 bean.
Outa respect for Roms. Not YOU.
But I just got Roms blessing....so..... I can spread them FAR and Wide and destroy your monopoly on the JLB. Im not going too....but....Keep pushing. Just keep pushing. You'll have like 5000 people to take to court! The JLB will be spread so far and wide you wont know what to do. But for now its in safe hands and has always been in safe hands. Despite what internet trolls have said to you about me. LMFAO! Theres a sucker born every minute. Keep believing what you hear on the internet. The more trolls I get...the more it motivates me to succeed!
I got a guy on here whos friend tried to steal my name PVG. He has it up now on IG.
You dont see me sueing him or fighting with him about it. Let him do his thing. If he wants my name that bad, then let him have it. Doesnt hurt my company one bit.
But your scared to loose your monopoly on this strain cause the THC-V could be worth Billions to Big Pharma. All this legal bullshit and you investing tons of money into this strain BUT its not to line your pockets with money though. LMFAO!!

Dude I told you in the other room correct yourself! I did not steal any name from you I was pioneer Valley Genetics before I ever met you! I’ve been more than humble about this subject and I’m tired of the lies and disrespect, I even changed the name because I’m not trying to be associated with your grimy motives and poor genetics( and I say that because they are all s1’s of the clone onlys you say they are) just keep me out your mouth and I won’t come on here with the facts that you try to keep hidden... like I said before I don’t play this internet game if you have a problem with me come to me in person and say it don’t get online and talk bad about me after you smile in my face

 

[PionerVallygenX]

You can snitch on Roms and I. You can take me to court. I never signed shit and had these beans before you ever did any of this other legal red tape shit.
Get it through your thick head! I have never sold or gave away not 1 bean.
Outa respect for Roms. Not YOU.
But I just got Roms blessing....so..... I can spread them FAR and Wide and destroy your monopoly on the JLB. Im not going too....but....Keep pushing. Just keep pushing. You'll have like 5000 people to take to court! The JLB will be spread so far and wide you wont know what to do. But for now its in safe hands and has always been in safe hands. Despite what internet trolls have said to you about me. LMFAO! Theres a sucker born every minute. Keep believing what you hear on the internet. The more trolls I get...the more it motivates me to succeed!
I got a guy on here whos friend tried to steal my name PVG. He has it up now on IG.
You dont see me sueing him or fighting with him about it. Let him do his thing. If he wants my name that bad, then let him have it. Doesnt hurt my company one bit.
But your scared to loose your monopoly on this strain cause the THC-V could be worth Billions to Big Pharma. All this legal bullshit and you investing tons of money into this strain BUT its not to line your pockets with money though. LMFAO!!

1 - you keep believing what you here on the internet. Ask Hammer what happened and what I did!

2 - look at my story on IG! I gave full credit to the Vibes Collective PUBLICLY and even stated these were going back to the Vibes Collective! That was my plan but fuck yourself.

3 - People like me are why people hoard genetics?
Ive had these beans for 9 years and never gave out 1 seed.
But now thats gonna change bigtime! Nice going Musta! Your paranoid dillusions just screwed yourself over! Ive followed the "RULES" to a T, to not give away or sell the JLB pure. Ive publically stated on IG thread that no beans are available. It was a preservation project that was going back to you guys if you wanted them. You Sir are an IDIOT and put your own foot deep in your own mouth.
Go ahead and report me to your SuperMod friend. Getting kicked off ICMag is like seeing a penny on the ground. Noone cares!

Greetings and blessings everyone....
im not here to start trouble but im here to address my name being dragged in the mud..im not here to bash anyone only thing i have is facts PERIOD!
first of all, Ive been growing for over 10+ years(IN MASS) also mass is my birthplace and im from the pioneer valley west mass (NOT OHIO!) ive put in alot of work and have helped numerous growers in my community.. i came up with the name pioneer valley genetics by myself time and date doesnt matter because it wasnt until around this time last year (2017) when i got the email started a Instagram and began giving seeds out for free to anyone willing to test along with me, packaged up and labled..ethics came first, and i have things ive been working since 2013-14..Now with that being said all i have is the facts and this is the real...this guy has been lying and talking about me on this platform for no reason... I didnt steal your name or anything about you dude, nor do i want to.. i dont know where this ohio fib came from i guess to sauce up your sob story, but thats a lie...this man came to the place i work about a month ago and we struck up a convo about breeding, then he started to say he was about to start back up on some breeding so i asked him whats his companies name and he said Pioneer valley genetics so i said "thats interesting because im PVG" he said ive been them for years i was like where? he said nowhere because it just turn legal i showed him my page and gear and everyone that knows me knows im a very nice humble guy so i offered to collab with him so we both could keep the name which i didnt have to do at all because im already established with email,ig page and pheno hunters thru out the city thats been growin my gear for a while now...instead since im a nice guy i put my hand out to partner with someone that is all nice and buddy buddy to my face then turns around next day to talk crazy about me online like its not gonna get back to me..i treated you with respect brotha.. and you accuse me of not being original? when you out here online throwing a fit because i established the name first...how about this..i'll make it easier for everyone and at the sametime show you how to really be creative...you can have the name and ride it all the way to the trash brotha...i dont want all i worked for to be tainted by you or have my people confused or scammed by your sob stories.. i feel bad for some of these people thats sending you bread thinking you spent it all on your grow when its really the poor guy you suckerd into your foolishness ...how do you get banned from a grow shop? your starting a seed company but your gorrila growing outdoors? are you gonna seed that crop? wheres your indoor crop? if you sell out of seeds today how soon can you restock? where would this project take place? why you selling s1's as clone onlys? why are you making crosses with these s1's? this is why im not battlin for a name your already tarnishing...even tho work always speak for itself...bad ethics always comes back to bite like karma...i will not be disrespected for any reason...you know where i work so if you have a problem with me you can tell me in person like you should of that same day instead of getting on here like i wasnt gonna find out...
stay positive everyone and beware of scammers
this is coming from the breeder formally known as THE ORIGiNAL PIONEER VALLEY GENETICS

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Enough guys, you obviously have differences and history, so if whatever is so irking either one of you is getting to a point where you have some considerable disagreements over this JLB then take it to PM's, and/or have a drink/toke together and sort it out like the sensible and reasonable people I know you can be....

Fighting over cannabis genetics don't really get no-one no where, believe me because I have been down that road many years ago...

How about releasing this much sought after......and much fought after variety so we can all see if its actually worth all the hype"?

*I have decided to re-open this thread - because its a good one - with many great posts - please don't let it slip into the realms of negativity again.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Bumpity Mc Bumpface!

 

[troutman]

Glad the thread open again.

I just placed my small bottle of Appleton Estate V/X Signature Blend Dark Rum in the fridge to cool.

Appleton Estate V/X Signature Blend

Produced in the heart of Jamaica, this signature blend combines rums of different styles and ages.
The result is a brilliant golden amber colour, complex aromas of sweet fruit, citrus, dried apricots,
fresh peach, hints of molasses and oak. These aromas flow onto a full-bodied palate with a soft,
subtle finish.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Glad the thread open again.

I just placed my small bottle of Appleton Estate V/X Signature Blend Dark Rum in the fridge to cool.

Appleton Estate V/X Signature Blend

Produced in the heart of Jamaica, this signature blend combines rums of different styles and ages.
The result is a brilliant golden amber colour, complex aromas of sweet fruit, citrus, dried apricots,
fresh peach, hints of molasses and oak. These aromas flow onto a full-bodied palate with a soft,
subtle finish.

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Why is the rum always gone.arghhhh

 

[troutman]

Why is the rum always gone.arghhhh

It's very smooth and tasty that's why.

Also, maybe because it's in my fridge along with my Landrace seeds.

 

[Azaghal]

Hi everybody and mexcurandero420,

sorry for offtopic ( it is not directly about Jamaican Lambsbread )
but found a song, featured by Lee 'Scratch' Perry,
who you posted in your comment in this Thread : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8278381&postcount=618

SAM CARTY - Bird In Hand [1978]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJGa-tdTbeo

The original version of this song is from the Film "Babul" from 1950:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScQM1ENRS6w

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babul_(1950_film)

The language of the song is probably Urdu:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu

Point is, another small connection between India and Jamaica.

Cheers

 

[onefinity]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=&quot]I originally posted this in the Phylos thread, but thought people following this thread would like it.. A pretty cool story about what is said to be the original "Jamaican Ganja" (as it's listed in the Phylos Galaxy, or "Original Ganja" as it is listed in this video by Phylos youtube.com/watch?v=FCkpeDg6CJs [/FONT] [/FONT]

 

[Hookahhead]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=&quot]I originally posted this in the Phylos thread, but thought people following this thread would like it.. A pretty cool story about what is said to be the original "Jamaican Ganja" (as it's listed in the Phylos Galaxy, or "Original Ganja" as it is listed in this video by Phylos youtube.com/watch?v=FCkpeDg6CJs [/FONT] [/FONT]

At around 1:15 you see the guy sticking the plant in the vial with his bare hands? He should be wearing gloves as to not contaminate the sample. This would not be an acceptable procedure in a real lab. I'm not saying this somehow skewed the Phylos results, just pointing out that its considered "bad practice" in other research areas. Interesting video otherwise, thanks for sharing!