It's the Climate, stupid

[Cuddles]

enough people are installing solar that some places are passing laws that the utility companies don't have to pay YOU if you produce so much that your meter stops turning and the excess goes into the grid. they are like the IRS; they enjoy cashing checks but sure as hell hate writing them...

we can get those types of panels here too but why should I give them free power only to still get a monthy bill, wtf? I´d do it if they paid for the whole set up and offer me a good deal...
I don´t want to pay and then pay more for electricity which I´m `producing´ myself. I want solar so I can power my own TV, fidge etc and SAVE money.

 

[armedoldhippy]

you don't get charged unless you are using THEIR electricity, you just don't get paid for any extra. at least, that is how it works here. if i could generate enough to get by on myself, i'd tell them to disconnect me immediately, fuck their bills...

 

[Zeez]

It is still a sucker deal. People get promised they will save money. They get over charged $50k - 60k for $15k worth of hardware on their roof. They don't know what the set up really costs bottom line. All they know is their bill is lower and they are 'saving' money. Then they find out there is a $50k lien on their house when they sell the house and all their equity was stolen long ago. It takes two days to install with a couple roofers and an electrician and the company scores $35 - 45k.

 

[Cuddles]

you don't get charged unless you are using THEIR electricity, you just don't get paid for any extra. at least, that is how it works here. if i could generate enough to get by on myself, i'd tell them to disconnect me immediately, fuck their bills...

I want one where I can create my own electricity and keep it ie I want batteries to go with it. Otherwise there´s no point at all.

 

[Cuddles]

It is still a sucker deal. People get promised they will save money. They get over charged $50k - 60k for $15k worth of hardware on their roof. They don't know what the set up really costs bottom line. All they know is their bill is lower and they are 'saving' money. Then they find out there is a $50k lien on their house when they sell the house and all their equity was stolen long ago. It takes two days to install with a couple roofers and an electrician and the company scores $35 - 45k.

right, you´re basically paying them money so you do their job for them and then you still have to pay some anyway. Bollocks!

 

[buzzmobile]

It is still a sucker deal. People get promised they will save money. They get over charged $50k - 60k for $15k worth of hardware on their roof. They don't know what the set up really costs bottom line. All they know is their bill is lower and they are 'saving' money. Then they find out there is a $50k lien on their house when they sell the house and all their equity was stolen long ago. It takes two days to install with a couple roofers and an electrician and the company scores $35 - 45k.

There are other issues with solar panels on the roof.

Some insurance companies dropping Florida customers if they put solar panels on their homes

Some insurance companies that covered solar panels in the past are no longer writing new policies for solar power

www.firstcoastnews.com

 

[Zeez]

There are other issues with solar panels on the roof.

Some insurance companies dropping Florida customers if they put solar panels on their homes

Some insurance companies that covered solar panels in the past are no longer writing new policies for solar power

www.firstcoastnews.com

Also, some insurance companies require the roof to be replaced every 12 years. If you have panels, they have to be removed and replaced. Ouch.

 

[Cuddles]

they could also be installed on the walls I reckon.

 

[buzzmobile]

they could also be installed on the walls I reckon.

Here's What You Need To Know About Ground Mounted Solar Panels

Get expert advice on improvements to your home, including design tips, how much you'd expect to pay for a pro and what to ask when hiring experts.

www.forbes.com

 

[Cuddles]

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www.forbes.com

that´s a very large garden! It wouldn´t be possible in cities

 

[mexcurandero420]

A coal plant would look so much better.

All those CO2 in the air good for plant growing.Germany restarted their coal plants again.



Meanwhile what to do with the windmill blades after they are replaced?Just dump them somewhere.Green energy.

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[Zeez]

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www.forbes.com

This is the way to go if you have room.

 

[buzzmobile]

that´s a very large garden! It wouldn´t be possible in cities

Tower mount panels are an option for small spaces.

 

[Cuddles]

Tower mount panels are an option for small spaces.
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these are nice!! I guess you could even create company logos this way and.
See, if this is possible then it´s also possible to attach them to the outer walls of buildings, right? This way you could install far more panels than you could on a roof top

 

[Zeez]

The current full sized panels are about 7.5' by 4' and produce about 500 watts each. For a normal house you need about 30 (15kW) of them so that's about 22' by 40'. It's a pretty good sized wall. Ideally they should be aiming south and any deviation from south looses efficiency. Loss of efficiency is usually compensated for by adding a few more panels.

 

[RobFromTX]

This looks photoshopped.

Have you never actually seen one? lol you cant have a wind farm with trees everywhere

 

[Zeez]

Have you never actually seen one? lol you cant have a wind farm with trees everywhere

There are a dozen windmills within ten miles of where I live. None have a clear cut around them like the image I commented on. The image looks fake and is probably a product from the people making comments about used windmill blades overwhelming us. Pure bullshit.

 

[RobFromTX]

There are a dozen windmills within ten miles of where I live. None have a clear cut around them like the image I commented on. The image looks fake and is probably a product from the people making comments about used windmill blades overwhelming us. Pure bullshit.

Yeah.....instead of clearcutting an area like that most of them are cluttering up a bunch of precious farmland

They call it progress but you could have fooled me

 

[Zeez]

Yeah.....instead of clearcutting an area like that most of them are cluttering up a bunch of precious farmland

They call it progress but you could have fooled me

Well, most of Texas doesn't have trees and the cows don't give a shit about the whir whir from wind mills like Chump does. Can you tell he's lying? He's getting paid to say this shit.

 

[Microbeman]

Yeah.....instead of clearcutting an area like that most of them are cluttering up a bunch of precious farmland

They call it progress but you could have fooled me

A pole does not clutter up farmland.