Three Berries
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And look how the vegetation responded. My chart ends at 2M years ago.
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Three Berries
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The Amazon is disappearing due to deforestation for the cattle industry. Not to mention elsewhere in the world. What plants are going to gobble up all this CO2?
My dad is an ag scientist. We had a glasshouse years ago and he was looking at increasing production by introducing CO2. This was in the 80's. CO2 is now at the level that he wanted in the glasshouse 4 decades ago.
Brother Nature
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Hahah, bro this is so good. This sculpture is based at a farm near where I live in NZ. It's called Gibbs farm, they have a pretty great selection of huge sculptures around their coastal farm, it's well known internationally. This particular piece has had to be moved because 2 years ago the rising coastline in the Kaipara Harbor was rusting the base and it was sinking into the newly formed beach.
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Don't be a psychopath!
Three Berries
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if you evert tried to keep an area weed and tree free you will find it's a constant battle. Cleared forest for farm land still gobbles up CO2.
If 440 ppm is what your father was looking for he would have found 2000 would have worked a lot better.
In Illinois during the summer the daily swing for CO2 can be from 350 late afternoon to 600 early morning. Just from the corn and beans. Plants put off CO2 at night.
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While normal outdoor CO2 levels (about 400ppm) will achieve normal plant growth, doubling or tripling the CO2 levels can increase the growth rate. However, above 2,000ppm CO2 becomes toxic to plants, and above 5,000ppm CO2 becomes potentially harmful to people. Most experts agree that 1,500 ppm is the maximum CO2 level for maximum plant growth, although any CO2 level between 1,000ppm and 1,500ppm will produce greatly improved results.
Three Berries
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I run +2000 in the winter all the time, up to 3000 ppm. Great yields, though I am not an expert. 3000 is my trigger limit for increasing ventilation.CO2 Meters | CO2 Monitors | CO2 Sensors
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While normal outdoor CO2 levels (about 400ppm) will achieve normal plant growth, doubling or tripling the CO2 levels can increase the growth rate. However, above 2,000ppm CO2 becomes toxic to plants, and above 5,000ppm CO2 becomes potentially harmful to people. Most experts agree that 1,500 ppm is the maximum CO2 level for maximum plant growth, although any CO2 level between 1,000ppm and 1,500ppm will produce greatly improved results.
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5K is the OSHA 8 hr weighted average limit I think. use to be 10K before all the green scream.
Three Berries
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Are these 100 year or 500 year records being broken?
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Farmland is useless in comparison to forest in terms of CO2.
Three Berries
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Farmland is not usless. WTF do you think all that corn is made of? And year after year. Not a long term storage like trees but in the end it's all the same.
Just look at biofuel that is created from corn and soybeans and fast growing trees.
Useless compared to forest for gobbling up CO2 (which is what you were discussing). Much of the cleared Amazon is for cattle anyway which is an even less efficient land use.
Biofuels still involve burning stuff for energy.
Three Berries
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Useless means of no use. Farm crop gobble up their mass in CO2. Where I live you will be glad to know no trees were harmed when plowing the millions of acres as it was mostly grassland.
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This publication provides basic information about the important role of native and improved pastures (referred to as grazing land) in sequestering carbon from the atmosphere. Because of the relatively high sequestration rates and extensive area, grazing land represents an important component of terrestrial carbon dioxide (CO2) offset and is a significant sink for long-term carbon sequestration and greenhouse gas mitigation. This publication contains information for stakeholders, students, scientists, and environmental agencies interested in enhancing ecosystems services provided by grazing lands.
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The global carbon cycle consists of complex processes that control the movement of carbon between the atmosphere, land, and oceans. Although natural processes dominate the carbon cycle, human-induced activities can also alter these carbon transfers. In the atmosphere, carbon is mainly present as carbon dioxide (CO2). Large amounts of carbon are also present in the soil, primarily as soil organic matter. Soil organic matter plays a key role in determining soil quality and its potential to produce food, fiber, and fuel. During the past two decades, the global carbon cycle has received significant attention because of its role in global climate change.
Yes. Unfortunately, deep rooted natural grasslands with endomycorrhizal associations were plowed up to make way for unnatural replacements and for years inundated with chemical fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides.Useless means of no use. Farm crop gobble up their mass in CO2. Where I live you will be glad to know no trees were harmed when plowing the millions of acres as it was mostly grassland.
SL373/SS574: Carbon Sequestration in Grazing Land Ecosystems
University of Florida, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences Extension outreach is a partnership between state, federal, and county governments to provide scientific knowledge and expertise to the public. The University of Florida (UF), together with Florida A&M University (FAMU)...edis.ifas.ufl.edu
This publication provides basic information about the important role of native and improved pastures (referred to as grazing land) in sequestering carbon from the atmosphere. Because of the relatively high sequestration rates and extensive area, grazing land represents an important component of terrestrial carbon dioxide (CO2) offset and is a significant sink for long-term carbon sequestration and greenhouse gas mitigation. This publication contains information for stakeholders, students, scientists, and environmental agencies interested in enhancing ecosystems services provided by grazing lands.
GLOBAL CARBON CYCLE
The global carbon cycle consists of complex processes that control the movement of carbon between the atmosphere, land, and oceans. Although natural processes dominate the carbon cycle, human-induced activities can also alter these carbon transfers. In the atmosphere, carbon is mainly present as carbon dioxide (CO2). Large amounts of carbon are also present in the soil, primarily as soil organic matter. Soil organic matter plays a key role in determining soil quality and its potential to produce food, fiber, and fuel. During the past two decades, the global carbon cycle has received significant attention because of its role in global climate change.
Three Berries
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I thought we were talking about tearing up the forest for pasture land?
But farmland that is intensively used also intensively captures CO2. Turns out billions of tons of organic matter yearly. They push the corn to the limit and the corn sucks up the CO2 to the limit. We use the corn for 1000s of things and it goes back into the carbon cycle.
Same would be true of rutabagas..
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This “bombshell” study on the possible harms of gas stoves was funded by the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) - a WEF partner that makes money off of consulting on low-carbon solutions and pushing green energy transitions. Just saying.
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This “bombshell” study on the possible harms of gas stoves was funded by the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) - a WEF partner that makes money off of consulting on low-carbon solutions and pushing green energy transitions. Just saying.
Brother Nature
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But do they eat Rocky Mountain oysters? That is the real question, where are the RMOs?
