It's the Climate, stupid

[Three Berries]

All that green energy is going to need a lot more copper. Here's a good read on copper mining in the US.

COPPER redux. I live near one of the largest copper mines on earth (Kennecott Utah Copper - KUC). I helped manage a smaller copper mine for 8 years. Observation: Wind/Solar/Battery Proponents & ESG bean-counters are completely out of touch with copper mining & production.




5:09 PM · Oct 23, 2022

 

[iTarzan]

I changed some wording in this post because I don't want it to be argumentative. I want it to be encouraging.

Yes pollution makes whatever phase of the Milankovitch cycle we are in but we can never stop the Milankovitch cycle from happening. The earth gets the closest to the sun at one end of the cycle and farthest from the sun at the other end of the cycle. The end of each cycle has cold and hot conditions that go beyond what man could cause by himself. We can only control what man does but that won't stop us from another ice age or tropical age.

Us boomers know there is always climate change. We are in a warming phase. Boomers, contrary to popular beliefs, care about the planet. WE FUCKING STARTED EARTH DAY! We fixed the hole in the ozone layer made by our parents and grandparents. Now it it time for you to fix whatever we broke. DO YOUR JOB!!!!

Here is what needs to be done. Students need to start taking courses that will help them invent ways to deal with pollution even though half or more of the world doesn't care or doesn't want to change their lifestyle. Heck, some countries haven't even reached 1850s USA lifestyles and we want them to stop trying to get there. No coal, no gas, don't cut trees, don't build cities and whatever.
People have invented things to solve problems to have a better life since the dawn of man. Cars, electric, refrigeration, paper, printing...
Now the younger people have to start inventing stuff to clean up the air, land and water even if people keep polluting. That is the answer.

Start inventing stuff. Boomers did. I would bet that boomers in the USA are the most diligent recyclers and anti polluters on the planet. We are also the majority that gives to save the dogs, kids, animals, rainforest, clean air, clean water, native Americans, cancer research, police funds, firefighter funds and every other cause.
Roll up your sleeves and invent a way to save the earth despite the fact that China, Russia, other countries and yes even thoughtless people in the USA are not going to change what they are doing. It is not the fault of boomers.

 

[audiohi]

Compost the boomers

Then, they can do their job correctly.

... gives the most to save the dogs. lol

 

[iTarzan]

That is a boomer making a boomer compost bin. We boomers never stop doing our part.

However, we are retired now and only do hobby type work. Like making picnic tables, outdoor furniture and boomer compost bins.

You need to start doing some inventing audiohi. Like a giant sky filter or the super earth air conditioner.

 

[buzzmobile]

Compost the boomers

Then, they can do their job correctly.

... gives the most to save the dogs. lol

I'm waiting my turn. If it all works out I'll get there before you do. Stay forever young.

 

[Three Berries]

They just need to stop with the weather modification programs around the world.

 

[Jericho Mile]

Propaganda. My only surprise is that Covid was not referenced.

 

[buzzmobile]

My dementia has been off the chart lately. I hope my strokes don't start acting up again.

 

[Jericho Mile]

My dementia has been off the chart lately. I hope my strokes don't start acting up again.
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….or you wandering down the street looking for a nonexistent dog

 

[buzzmobile]

….or you wandering down the street looking for a nonexistent dog

Have you seen him?

 

[Jericho Mile]

Have you seen him?

Over there!

 

[dramamine]

Have you seen him?

Animal Chin? Seen him at Wallos last week...
The search continues.

 

[dramamine]

 

[Jericho Mile]

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All I saved from my collection before traipsing around the western ranges on a running odyssey and settling in NM. Sold or gave away about 30 riders but rat holed every Wes Humpston BDS pig I ever owned. Modern pigs and minis are my style….but I haven’t skated in a bunch of years now. The running thing took over.

 

[igrowone]

All that green energy is going to need a lot more copper. Here's a good read on copper mining in the US.

COPPER redux. I live near one of the largest copper mines on earth (Kennecott Utah Copper - KUC). I helped manage a smaller copper mine for 8 years. Observation: Wind/Solar/Battery Proponents & ESG bean-counters are completely out of touch with copper mining & production.

interestingly copper spot prices haven't changed much during this electric boom
and I also see that new forms of aluminum will likely become a large part of electric vehicle construction
time will tell

 

[Three Berries]

interestingly copper spot prices haven't changed much during this electric boom
and I also see that new forms of aluminum will likely become a large part of electric vehicle construction
time will tell

The metals commodity prices are really controlled and are not an actual reflection on spot industrial demand. But that seems to be changing as many are demanding the actual product from the commodity's vaults vs the paper certificates for trading.

Copper is also a byproduct of silver mining too. Which also is needed in the solar field.

I don't see electric cars reaching 50% for decades.

 

[igrowone]

not much experience with industrial metals and spot price
but silver and gold spot price is routinely used as the reference point for purchases/sales of those metals

 

[Three Berries]

not much experience with industrial metals and spot price
but silver and gold spot price is routinely used as the reference point for purchases/sales of those metals

Yes that's how the average person sees it. I've bought gold and silver precious metals for years. And the industrial users were trapped by the precocious metals spot prices. But the paper metals markets fouled the direct connection between supply and demand prices. It inserted an entire third layer to skim profits from. This is falling apart currently.

Much the same as having a gold depository 'store' your physical.

 

[Three Berries]

Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

One of the largest wind farms in the United States was completed in Oklahoma last spring​

 

[igrowone]

power enough for 300,000 homes
wow! that's a lot of wind