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vonforne

I have seen some good results coming out of the Organic Hydro forum with the buckets.
 
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irie-i

the thing about these indoor grow setups that people need to understand, imo, is that it is a system. or rather a system made up of smaller systems. a grower needs to dial in each system and make sure that the sum of the system is greater than all its parts. you know, if you got your teas dialed in, but your environment isnt perfect. or you get all the greatiest lighting equipment, but your air cooling fan is insufficent. or you have an awesome soil mix, but you got bugs and dont fix that. or you trim your plants up good, but dont clean your grow room, etc etc.

over the years i have more or less perfected each component of the system.
you have seen that i use 600w'ers, you have seen that i have a kick-ass light cooling system. you have seen my soil mix and teas, i seem to have that pretty "dialed-in"
my temps and humidity are good.

at this point, i consider my system pretty simple (really, when you break it down, theres not much too it) and its very forgiving

if i have equipment failure, i am sure my plants will survive till i can address it.

now if i get cocky(okay, i am a little cocky already) and implement a bio-bucket system, am i asking for trouble?

and, as it stands, i can complete a cycle in ~10 weeks, i only veg like 6 days presently. bio-bucket system would bring my plant count down considerably, but thus extend my veg time considerably. but would biobuckets increase my yeild?

what would you do?
 
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vonforne

Do a small controlled test of a certian # of plants....say 6. Keep your room running the same other wise. Alot one light, 6 buckets. I try never to totally change everything I have bad luck with doing that. Work on that until it is dialed in and then if you like the results...go bigger. I have seen some very impressive yeilds from the bio-buckets. Namely Mr. wags in Organic Hydro.
 
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irie-i

thats a good idea. the only i problem i can see that would arise from that is that i have about 13 plants under a light and inly veg for a week or less. would i have to grow bigger plants in the buckets i wonder. or use small buckets? hmm.
 
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vonforne

by my understanding the biobuckets grow much faster than their soil versions do. You would actually need less veg time in the buckets. And the bucket size stays the same, 5 gallon what ever the plants size and veg time.
 
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irie-i

yes, but in a bucket system i could only fit fewer plants in the same space, thus needing more veg time to have as much volume as more plants.
vonforne, i am not trying to argue against per se, just a friendly discussion bringing up the counterpoints that come to mind. i appreciate your input :wave:
 

jaykush

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the thing about these indoor grow setups that people need to understand, imo, is that it is a system. or rather a system made up of smaller systems. a grower needs to dial in each system and make sure that the sum of the system is greater than all its parts. you know, if you got your teas dialed in, but your environment isnt perfect. or you get all the greatiest lighting equipment, but your air cooling fan is insufficent. or you have an awesome soil mix, but you got bugs and dont fix that. or you trim your plants up good, but dont clean your grow room, etc etc.

i couldnt agree more. its what most people dont think of. also they just want the best strain out there but there room temps are high 90's and humidity is 70% lol.

now going perpetual is adding a whole new system haha. and its not an easy one to get down right away.
 
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vonforne

irie-i said:
yes, but in a bucket system i could only fit fewer plants in the same space, thus needing more veg time to have as much volume as more plants.
vonforne, i am not trying to argue against per se, just a friendly discussion bringing up the counterpoints that come to mind. i appreciate your input :wave:

Oh I;m not arguing. I'm as interested in it as you are, believe me. Your knowledge is farther advanced than mine in that area. I have been looking into the bio buckets but would want to keep it 100% organic. I cannot get away from that. Ever. All the things you are bringing up have crossed my mind also. Just in a smaller way. keep it coming. I will try and in take some more information and keep up with the discussion. Thanks.
 

Dan42nepa

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I want to try it at some point.. in fact my first attempt was going to be in buckets.. but in reading all the forums, i decided i wanted organic and then decided on organic soil. I havent yet found a formula for a tea which would work for young plants, small clones and progress thru the veg process. I guess I could buy bottles but I sort of wanted to do everything manually and mix myself. I may try it with a clone next time that way if i kill it its only one plant.
 

cadillachydro

Active member
Wow,thats serious, awesome job... Hey man, have you thought about a perpetual style grow? Great work, I noticed you keep em pretty bare, I like it. Harvest should be a breeze, well maybe not a breeze with those numbers, but alot easier! Way to grow.
 
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irie-i

i dont want to do perpetual harvie becuase i dont have a seperate veg room. also i feed the plants a little differently depending on where they are in the cycle. its easlier this way, and if i want i can shut down for a week to go visit my mommy, which i plan to do in december! (i have to go to texas to visit her though :badday: :yoinks: :no:)
 
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jaykush

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yea there nice, but they can be a pain sometimes. theres a lot of hidden work behind a perpetual system. and it can be hard on the head.
 
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irie-i

harvest!

harvest!

:woohoo: :woohoo:

i had to harvest today, its 60 days. i know the girls could have gone a little longer, but there was definitly some amber comin to some of the trichomes. lots of red hairs but theyre also still pushin a little red.
these were for the most part the biggest buds from this strain that i have seen!











thanks everyone for hangin out!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :wave:
 

Smurf

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They're lookin magnificent irie-i........ you're gonna be busy for a while!
 
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Great thread!!! I have enjoyed the read. I don't know if I missed it but how do you water/feed the plants and how many under each light? How big are the pots? I love your set up and really would like to pick your brain about it. I can take this to PM's if you'd like.
 
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irie-i

so sorry!

so sorry!

dewr friends... i am truly sorry for leaving y'all hangin like this... i was waiting for a final weight to post but the trimming hasnt finished. the herb is superb! highly potent, burns well... all around good medicine. the folks at the club have givin me a thumbs up. thats more important than yeild!







i think there will be less than 6 lbs :confused: i was certainly expecting more. i am sure now that i agree with skeletor about dual hose portables exhausting the CO2. now what the hell am i gonna do? :pointlaug


thanks again for hanig out.. ill let you know what the yeild is when its all trimmed up


i am irie
 

Smurf

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Excuses, excuses...... I bet you've been having a wild time !! :laughing:

any bubble yet?
 
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